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I assume at least one person voting me is scum so we could go there. But I think Toal is a good vote
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b-minus1 posted:I assume at least one person voting me is scum so we could go there. But I think Toal is a good vote Swear to me on Harold Krell's life that you are town.
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May 4, 2023 20:10
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Votecount for Day 1  b-minus1 (4): Green Wing, Sandwolf, shwinnebego, Yami Fenrir saladscooper (3): Maugrim, Green Wing, PlasticAutomaton, fool of sound, shwinnebego, Toalpaz (2): Illusionis, Mr. Humalong, CubicalSucrose (2): Cloacamazing!, fool of sound (1): PlasticAutomaton, shwinnebego (1): Green Wing, CapitalistPig (0): CapitalistPig, Sandwolf (0): Mr. Humalong, MockingQuantum (0): b-minus1, Cloacamazing! (0): CapitalistPig, Green Wing (0): Yami Fenrir, saladscooper, CapitalistPig, Maugrim (0): b-minus1, CapitalistPig, Illusionis (0): shwinnebego, saladscooper, Tired Moritz (0): saladscooper, Cloacamazing!, Yami Fenrir (0): Illusionis, Not Voting (4): CubicalSucrose, MockingQuantum, Tired Moritz, ToalpazWith 17 alive, it's 9 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 04th, 2023 at 9 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 1 hour, 48 minutes.
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May 4, 2023 20:11
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I'm caught up and considering things, I do feel the similarity to Stellaris 2 Binus that Yami mentioned, but I do feel rather iffy about some of the votes on him.
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May 4, 2023 20:12
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shwinnebego posted:again my historical record of reading binus is very bad so i can appreciate that people don't wanna listen to me shwinnebego posted:alright buddy you drive a hard bargain but you've got yourself a deal ##vote binus shwinnebego posted:for the loving record i am only voting binus because no one is going for salad or cpig Like this is just bothering me when Salad is the second highest wagon and would be highest if Shwinn was still on Salad
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May 4, 2023 20:15
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tbh I'm probably OMGusing but Yami's also kinda bothering me a bit.
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May 4, 2023 20:17
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I'm here for deadline, currently catching up. Sorry, kind of tired from Hoverboard. Not really feeling either option so far.
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May 4, 2023 20:33
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Cloacamazing! posted:I'm here for deadline, currently catching up. Sorry, kind of tired from Hoverboard. Not really feeling either option so far. Nice new av.
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May 4, 2023 20:33
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Ahahahaha, holy poo poo, I seem to have a new avatar. Thanks!
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May 4, 2023 20:34
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I’ve reread salad and hmmm I don’t think they’re too scummy besides the hilarious ironic scumclaim. Think I gotta move my vote but where to ##unvote should have time to scour posts in a bit
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May 4, 2023 20:35
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Maugrim posted:I’ve reread salad and hmmm I don’t think they’re too scummy besides the hilarious ironic scumclaim. Think I gotta move my vote but where to I reread salad too and got the opposite feeling, though I couldn't point to any specifically scummy posts really, just an iffy feeling
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May 4, 2023 20:38
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I think salad looks slightly worse than binus, the sheer amount of people going "Here's an itemized list of examples where binus sounds different from town binus" makes me suspect there's scum trying to get rid of him early. Salad's a bit vibes I guess?
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May 4, 2023 20:40
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The amount of people coming in and very willfully misreading the case on binus makes me nigh-certain that binus is scum. Coupled with the fact that he still can’t point to anyone as scum with even a shred of conviction.
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May 4, 2023 20:42
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Cloacamazing! posted:I think salad looks slightly worse than binus, the sheer amount of people going "Here's an itemized list of examples where binus sounds different from town binus" makes me suspect there's scum trying to get rid of him early. Salad's a bit vibes I guess? Who are these "sheer number" of people saying this?
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May 4, 2023 20:44
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Green Wing posted:Who are these "sheer number" of people saying this? Sand, Yami, shwin, GW. That's a pretty high number considering it's D1.
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May 4, 2023 20:47
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Cloacamazing! posted:Sand, Yami, shwin, GW. That's a pretty high number considering it's D1. I have said nothing if the sort, for one thing.
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May 4, 2023 20:48
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Green Wing posted:Just got off work and the upshot of what I've seen so far today is that honestly, I'm more confident about my binus vote than before, largely on the same basis that I put down the vote originally, that has been echoed by others - townreads a'plenty, scumreads a'few. I do feel bad for somebody that leaves games early a lot, but in the last game we were in together he made it longer so I don't feel too bad, and this scummy impression that only increased since I was last able to read the thread. That's good enough for a D1 vote in my eyes. Green Wing posted:One to watch here, ive seen Scumnus put out these very assertive town reads on people under suspicion d1 before now in order to get town cred if one of them flips Reposting my reasoning for voting here. This is not anything like what cloaca is claiming it is.
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May 4, 2023 20:50
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Sandwolf posted:The amount of people coming in and very willfully misreading the case on binus makes me nigh-certain that binus is scum. Coupled with the fact that he still can’t point to anyone as scum with even a shred of conviction. is it willful misreading if I'm just not very smart I'll accept that I'm just not very experienced in the ways of binus and I'm much more likely to be wrong here than our more experienced binus-knowers, so I'd vote for him to avoid a no-execute and either eat crow or gloat afterwards
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May 4, 2023 20:50
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Putting down a shitload of townreads d1 is scummy whoever it comes from, it also happens to specifically line up eith a scumtell, but it's also *scummy behaviour from anybody*
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May 4, 2023 20:52
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Green Wing posted:Reposting my reasoning for voting here. This is not anything like what cloaca is claiming it is. uhhhh yeah it is lol
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May 4, 2023 20:52
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Green Wing posted:Reposting my reasoning for voting here. This is not anything like what cloaca is claiming it is. Okay, so your post is "Here is a list of things I have seen scumbinus do" instead of "Here is what townbinus does different". Same difference? You're being weirdly defensive about this.
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May 4, 2023 20:53
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I assume the "itemized list of examples" part is what's in contention but I guess I read that as hyperbole
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May 4, 2023 20:53
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Yami Fenrir posted:Okay FINE I'll read this thread Cloaca I'm.alsp looking for the "itemised list of how this differs from townbinus" in yami and can only find this please advise
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May 4, 2023 20:53
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Cloacamazing! posted:Okay, so your post is "Here is a list of things I have seen scumbinus do" instead of "Here is what townbinus does different". Same difference? You're being weirdly defensive about this. It was a weird thing to assert that differs from my perception of thread reality so wildly that I'm genuinely puzzled by it.
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May 4, 2023 20:54
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Cloacamazing! posted:Okay, so your post is "Here is a list of things I have seen scumbinus do" instead of "Here is what townbinus does different". Same difference? You're being weirdly defensive about this. Genuinely, what list? I feel like I'm going crazy here
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May 4, 2023 20:55
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You know what, this is getting too weird. ##vote GW If you're legitimately scumreading binus, you shouldn't have a problem standing by that read. You're trying to sound like you're not pushing him too much incase he flips town is what I'm guessing.
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May 4, 2023 20:57
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I'm absolutely standing by that read, but you're describing an argument I and others simply didn't make in order to minimise it
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May 4, 2023 20:57
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Pretty comfortable voting binus (on the back of Sand's reads, with a strong caveat that Sand is still null regardless of what binus flips) or Salad, or Toalp.
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May 4, 2023 20:58
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Sandwolf posted:The amount of people coming in and very willfully misreading the case on binus makes me nigh-certain that binus is scum. Coupled with the fact that he still can’t point to anyone as scum with even a shred of conviction. This imo. Plus I feel like a lot of attacks on the b- votes is happening here rather than actual scumhunting from some folks imo. Just makes me want to vote B- even harder tbh.
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May 4, 2023 21:01
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Cloacamazing! posted:You know what, this is getting too weird. ##vote GW Bonkers description of what is going on, I'm sticking on this vote because I think he's scum. For future readers reference, this is the post that started this kerfuffle, which is the false creation of a sheer number of people (which there is not) using a solely meta read (which is not the case). It's a weak dismissal of vote leader argumenrs and the creation of a false narrative. Cloacamazing! posted:I think salad looks slightly worse than binus, the sheer amount of people going "Here's an itemized list of examples where binus sounds different from town binus" makes me suspect there's scum trying to get rid of him early. Salad's a bit vibes I guess? Binus/plastic/cloaca/shinn-or-yami for my scum reads coming to the final hour.
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May 4, 2023 21:03
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I don't really know what's going on right now but I'm gonna ##vote binus
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May 4, 2023 21:04
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Green Wing posted:Bonkers description of what is going on, I'm sticking on this vote because I think he's scum. Bruh I was one of the earliest people to go after b-
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May 4, 2023 21:05
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Well clearly you're bussing then 
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May 4, 2023 21:06
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CubicalSucrose posted:Pretty comfortable voting binus (on the back of Sand's reads, with a strong caveat that Sand is still null regardless of what binus flips) or Salad, or Toalp. How is Sand null if Binus flips scum with this strong push on him. Kinda feels like you're not even considering the possibility that Binus will flip scum.
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May 4, 2023 21:06
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Yami Fenrir posted:Bruh I was one of the earliest people to go after b- Youre there with schinn because I think there has to be an early safety bus there by now. That's what I'd do. Thus falls down if he flips town. Plus you both give me vibes. Weakest reads there tbh.
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May 4, 2023 21:06
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Yami Fenrir posted:This imo. Clo’s posts have felt a bit “maybe I can get in there and shift the narrative,” but I’ll reserve that judgement for after a flip.
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Illusionis posted:How is Sand null if Binus flips scum with this strong push on him. Kinda feels like you're not even considering the possibility that Binus will flip scum. I’ve noted it, if binus flips town, that’s who I’m gonna look at next.
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Sandwolf posted:Clo’s posts have felt a bit “maybe I can get in there and shift the narrative,” but I’ll reserve that judgement for after a flip. Same, but this EOD feels super fishy y'know?
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May 4, 2023 21:07
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Green Wing posted:Youre there with schinn because I think there has to be an early safety bus there by now. That's what I'd do. Thus falls down if he flips town. Plus you both give me vibes. Weakest reads there tbh. I can see this too but again I’m going to reserve making calls off of binus until I see binus flip or see someone pushing binus flip scum.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Same, but this EOD feels super fishy y'know? Something certainly feels off but I can’t tell what it is. I have no reason to actually think this beyond paranoia but it feels like it could be town protecting a scum binus, or scum protecting a town binus or something weird like that. Like, if I (and everyone else voting binus) is wrong, it’d be so easy for scum to sit here providing token opposition without shifting the vote. Feel like shwinne may have been guilty of this before switching his vote?
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