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Torrannor posted:Just a warning, the Coppermind is an amazing wiki, and the time machine feature is amazing. But it's relatively new, and there's a limit to how far back it's good. It's very easy to get spoiled browsing the Coppermind. You should probably avoid going to it before finishing Bands of Mourning + Secret History, as well as Words of Radiance. Thanks for the heads up, I'll avoid it for now. It was just the top result for "elantris sequel". I'm guessing any Elantris sequel is a few years out at best, but I've got the rest of the Cosmere to burn through and any other series I pick up after that. It's just nice to know he plans on going back there eventually.
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Tunzie posted:I believe the current plan is for a proper Mistborn trilogy (urban era) after Stormlight 5, then returning to SA 6. I fully expect Warbreaker and Elantris sequels to be the next books on his plate after that, probably as his ‘break’ after SA6 (also, he’s probably sneaking more Kickstarter-related novellas in along the way). No, he's said that he's going to switch off between writing Mistborn Era 3 and the Elantris sequels. SA6 is after that and Warbreaker sequel is ????.
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Ojjeorago posted:No, he's said that he's going to switch off between writing Mistborn Era 3 and the Elantris sequels. SA6 is after that and Warbreaker sequel is ????. He's also mentioned that he plans to write the next Mistborn trilogy like the first one (as in writing all three before publishing the first one). So who knows what the plan is.
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Just started the Way of Kings. It’s kind of a slow burn, innit?
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May 9, 2023 12:46
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Yes but it definitely pays off. I think it took me a couple months to get through the first half (it was my first Sanderson book), but after I got into the second half I blitzed through the rest as well as the following books in a matter of weeks (no small feat for three 60 hour audiobooks).
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virinvictus posted:Just started the Way of Kings. It’s kind of a slow burn, innit? Brandon has admitted that the first part is very slow and a drag. I think he also said he would do things differently if he could redo it but as Taffer mentioned it pays off. It's a lot of worldbuilding and a lot of history that you're thrown into the middle of but its worth it.
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May 9, 2023 17:56
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Is Elantris the only book that got an upgrade after being released?
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May 9, 2023 22:32
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I believe all the leatherbounds are given a quality pass, but it’s usually correcting typos or grammar rather than the pass Elantris got. Unless you count changing the bit in Words of Radiance a few months after first publishing.
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I finished Elantris  So that book just kinda ended? It felt like after Raoden fixed the giant Aon things just wrapped up really quickly, he zooped over to Teod and kicked some rear end (with the help of Hrathen) and then he had a wedding over like 2 pages and then it was done! Then Hoid had a little bit of wider universe exposition and peaced out.Gonna read the Elantris novellas then on to Mistborn.
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May 10, 2023 12:22
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pik_d posted:I finished Elantris Yeah pacing issues have been the biggest thing Sanderson has struggled with and it shows
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May 10, 2023 12:37
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DarkHorse posted:Yeah pacing issues have been the biggest thing Sanderson has struggled with and it shows Yeah I like the characters and world and magic system he's created, I like the different POVs though the strict 1-2-3 pattern didn't land perfectly, but I can totally see the criticisms of Elantris that people have had. I assume his pacing gets better as he writes more, and the prose gets more refined.
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May 10, 2023 13:09
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pik_d posted:Yeah I like the characters and world and magic system he's created, I like the different POVs though the strict 1-2-3 pattern didn't land perfectly, but I can totally see the criticisms of Elantris that people have had. You can now read his annotations on the subject! https://www.brandonsanderson.com/annotation-elantris-introduction/ pik_d posted:I assume his pacing gets better as he writes more, Yes. pik_d posted:and the prose gets more refined. Sadly, no. But nobody is reading Sanderson for the prose. In Sanderson adjacent discussion, I just finished reading Dragonsbane by Barbara Hambly, which he cites as the book that sparked his love of reading and fantasy. It was a very good book.
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May 10, 2023 13:27
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pik_d posted:I finished Elantris Yay! Congrats on finishing your first foray into Sanderson. You survived Elantris. It's all uphill from here. Personally, I think that my biggest criticism of the book is that we spent the least amount of time with the most interesting character (Hrathen) and the most time with the least interesting character (Sarene). It also made me laugh that there was this big deal about Sarene teaching the women fencing... only for when they try, they get immediately hosed. Real good payoff there!!!
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Leng posted:You can now read his annotations on the subject! I wish he still had the time to do these.
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I'm reading through those at work on my phone and I really loving wish the "Next chapter" button was above the list of chapters instead of below it. Fun read though, just a lovely layout choice
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pik_d posted:I'm reading through those at work on my phone and I really loving wish the "Next chapter" button was above the list of chapters instead of below it. Which book are you reading now?
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Torrannor posted:Which book are you reading now? I'm talking about the linked annotations for Elantris on Sanderson's website. As for your question, I'm going to get through the Elantris novellas before moving on to Mistborn.
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pik_d posted:I'm talking about the linked annotations for Elantris on Sanderson's website. When it comes to novellas, "The Emperor's Soul" is the only one with any real meat. You can easily finish it in an afternoon (I think the audiobook version is roughly 3 hours). "The Hope of Elantris" is a boring, if brief, short story that you can read in probably 20 minutes. It's not necessarily bad, but it doesn't really add much. The backstory for it is more interesting than the story itself. quote:Brandon got the idea to write this story in January 2006, as he was dating his wife Emily. Emily mentions one of her eighth grade students has done a book report on Elantris. Matisse, the student, had done an outstanding job on her book report. There were detailed bios of the characters and even some materials you would find in the book. Brandon was moved by her report and wrote this companion story, with Matisse’s name as the lead character in honor to her. When Brandon and Emily were married, Matisse gave the book report to Brandon as a wedding gift.
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Leng posted:Sadly, no. But nobody is reading Sanderson for the prose. I think the prose does improve dramatically as he goes on but it still never really rises above serviceable. He’s not going to win any awards for it that’s for sure.
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pik_d posted:I'm talking about the linked annotations for Elantris on Sanderson's website.
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stramit posted:I think the prose does improve dramatically as he goes on but it still never really rises above serviceable. He’s not going to win any awards for it that’s for sure. Yeah the best description for his prose is "workmanlike" It's words that don't get in the way of the story. Easy reading but nothing sophisticated
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DarkHorse posted:Yeah the best description for his prose is "workmanlike" Yeah I mean it definitely improves as his books go on, but the dude writes entertaining books that are fun to discuss and that really is enough, not every book has to reach some new creative heights with prose or whatever.
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stramit posted:I think the prose does improve dramatically as he goes on but it still never really rises above serviceable. He’s not going to win any awards for it that’s for sure. I'm actually gonna be curious to see how the next release pans out, mainly because he's brought on a new editor whose responsibilities include polishing up his prose: Dragonsteel Entertainment job posting posted:RESPONSIBILITIES That position was filled in April by Kristy Gilbert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristysgilbert So too recent for it to have mattered on the first and second secret projects or The Lost Metal. But maybe for the third or fourth secret project or Defiant the new editor will have been involved in the polish.
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The Emperors Soul is a really nice story. Another cool magic system, though after reading the Sel system blurb/essay it seems like it is just a different way that the Elantrian Dor is used? I saw someone somewhere else say that this could be adapted into a stage play and it really does feel like that. Shai spends the majority of her time in a nice cell, her updating the cell could be used to tell the passage of time, and the magic isn't something that needs special effects. I also thought she had some interesting motivations, just to trick the whole empire. Obviously she wants to escape too, but finishing her work is clearly more important. She even manages to impress Gaotona and probably even the Emperor himself. She completely fooled Zu, Frava, and the Bloodsealer. I'm just glad she never fired her Chekhov's gun in the "forget everything" soulstamp. On to Mistborn!
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This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious.
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I'm not even a native English speaker. I have no clue. Tolkien I guess? At least to me, Wheel of Time has better prose than Sanderson's works.
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Wangsucker 69 posted:This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious. Janny Wurts and our very own General Battuta (Seth Dickinson). Come join us in the Wars of Light and Shadow thread if you want an 11 book epic to end all epic fantasy series that's completed (book 11 is done, Wurts is doing the cover art and waiting on a pub date). https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4030263&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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Wangsucker 69 posted:This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious. I think Scott lynch does a great job (Locke Lamora series), there is also a book called between two fires that has really good prose. in sci-fi there is a lot of good authors too like the Hyperion series, the vanished birds, and a lot more. stramit fucked around with this message at 13:56 on May 13, 2023 |
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Lies of Locke Lamora is unreasonably good in that regard
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Wangsucker 69 posted:This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious. Zelazny
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Wangsucker 69 posted:This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious. Ursula Le Guin.
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Broke Earth Trilogy successfully uses second person which is really hard to do. I think it also the first Hugo three peat. zerofiend posted:Lies of Locke Lamora is unreasonably good in that regard I should re-read those.
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The first one was by far the best. I never thought the sequels lived up to the 1st. And it wasn't even close.
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Artonos posted:The first one was by far the best. I never thought the sequels lived up to the 1st. And it wasn't even close. I agree, but at least we got to read those sequels. Lookin’ at you, Rothfuss.
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Grundulum posted:I agree, but at least we got to read those sequels. Lookin’ at you, Rothfuss. After reading the first two books it was pretty fun to learn how book three’s supposed release has devolved into people effectively posting date rumors on sites or Youtube for clicks. That god drat book is never coming out.
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Wangsucker 69 posted:This prose discussion has me wondering, because I’m no English/literary expert, what fantasy works are considered to have good prose? I’m curious.
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Up to chapter 7 of The Final Empire I'm very glad that we got a novice Mistborn so we could get a training montage of what the different Allomancy metals do, though so far I still have 0 knowledge about the 9th metal, and I don't know what Atium or the 11th metal do. Vin has one hell of a survival mode don't trust anybody mentality, I'm guessing she'll shed that around Kelsier sooner or later. This heist seems fun and definitely no part of it will go wrong. Fun book so far, but I'm very curious how much the mist actually does since that hasn't been explained yet.
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pik_d posted:Up to chapter 7 of The Final Empire 
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pik_d posted:Up to chapter 7 of The Final Empire 
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