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So just for clarification, Nintendo is only doing a DMCA against Dolphin on Steam and not the actual emulator itself, right?
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I wondered what wikipedia had to say and lmaohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrogaming posted:The distinction between retro and modern is heavily debated, but it usually coincides with either the shift from 2D to 3D games (making the fourth the last retro generation, and the fifth the first modern), the turn of the millennium and the increase in online gaming (making the fifth the last retro generation, and the sixth the first modern), or the switch from analog to digital for audiovisual output and from 4:3 to 16:9 aspect ratio (making the sixth the last retro generation, and the seventh the first modern). They can be played on original hardware or in modern emulation. Another type of game is the retro online Multi User Dungeon or MUD. Many of these games are text based and require typing skills. They were also the precursor for famous games such as World of Warcraft. People all around the world were introduced to online gaming through Multi User Dungeons which uses a Dungeons and Dragons type system at a fast pace. Some of them are still around today. An example is Duris: Land of Bloodlust (https://www.durismud.com), that still has a player base from around the world and functions to this day since its creation in the mid 1990's, making it one of a kind online game that is still being played today. It is one of the first online PvP (player vs. player) games and if a player is killed in PvP combat, their gear is gained by the killer or killers. Another example is Toril MUD (https://www.torilmud.com) which also still functions today yet is different in that it solely focuses on PvE or Player vs. Environment. MUDs require a program to operate and players were required to purchase programs such as ZMud, however, these days a player can run Mudlet for free. If fantasy isn't the genre for a player then there are other MUDs to play, all a player would have to do is to log onto MUD Connector (https://www.mudconnector.com) to find a list.
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May 27, 2023 22:43
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Willo567 posted:So just for clarification, Nintendo is only doing a DMCA against Dolphin on Steam and not the actual emulator itself, right? I don't think it was a DMCA, it was a cease and desist letter. It was specifically to Valve though related to Dolphin's planned Steam release, not to the Dolphin devs themselves.
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May 27, 2023 22:51
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If the console you have has a storage medium that can contain less than a gig, a retro system you have. If an online store front is present (or has been at some point), retro it ain't.
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May 27, 2023 23:03
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njsykora posted:I don't think it was a DMCA, it was a cease and desist letter. It was specifically to Valve though related to Dolphin's planned Steam release, not to the Dolphin devs themselves. Also they only did it because valve went to them and said "any problems with us putting this on steam" and valve have every right to ignore it especially as they went and asked in the first place
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May 27, 2023 23:20
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I just stick with the 15 Years rule for whether a console is "retro" or not, keeps things simple
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May 27, 2023 23:31
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just seems really useless to have it be a moving target for the sake of anyone trying to categorize or discuss things
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drrockso20 posted:I just stick with the 15 Years rule for whether a console is "retro" or not, keeps things simple Yep, 15 years or two generations back.
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May 27, 2023 23:43
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you retro-relativists sicken me
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Rubellavator posted:I wondered what wikipedia had to say and lmao I love it when you find someone advertising themselves in Wikipedia articles. Rubellavator posted:just seems really useless to have it be a moving target for the sake of anyone trying to categorize or discuss things That's the problem with time, it's always moving.
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May 28, 2023 00:03
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Also it's not constantly moving, it moves roughly once every 6-7 years.
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May 28, 2023 00:07
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If people want Retro to equal old we need proper era category names. generations are a silly concept and Last of Us being in the same gaming subcategory as Mr. Do bothers me!
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hatty posted:If people want Retro to equal old we need proper era category names. generations are a silly concept and Last of Us being in the same gaming subcategory as Mr. Do bothers me! I've taken to using 8-bit, 16-bit, CD, DVD and HD eras. HD era especially seems to be catching on as I've heard it in a bunch of places as people realise numbered generations sound dumb when people have to look it up to remind themselves what generation you're talking about. Meanwhile you say HD era and people immediately understand Xbox 360 and PS3. This does create a minor problem of where the gently caress do you slot the Wii, but I think people understand it as part of the PS3/X360 era even if it's not HD.
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May 28, 2023 00:11
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Honestly the numbered generations aren't too hard to sort out once you get it memorized that the Famicom/NES is 3rd generation and that each successive Nintendo home console is the next generation afterwards
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly the numbered generations aren't too hard to sort out once you get it memorized that the Famicom/NES is 3rd generation and that each successive Nintendo home console is the next generation afterwards that doesn't quite work cause nintendo released two 6th generation consoles
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hatty posted:If people want Retro to equal old we need proper era category names. generations are a silly concept and Last of Us being in the same gaming subcategory as Mr. Do bothers me! Yeah, Mr. Do shouldn't be shamed by being in the same category as The Last of Us. Setting aside straight up system call outs, and the fact that console generations are stupid, I think most people are now dividing things up into broad bins. Whether it's decade, processor style, media, 3D hardware, we'll split things up into categories for convenience. Mr. Do is from the geologic era of single screen arcade games. The Last of Us is from the dark ages. Things will shake out eventually and people will paint enormous, overlapping periods of time with broad brushes that lose the fine details. drrockso20 posted:Honestly the numbered generations aren't too hard to sort out once you get it memorized that the Famicom/NES is 3rd generation and that each successive Nintendo home console is the next generation afterwards "Generations" as they're used to discuss game consoles are completely centered on how they were released and marketed in the US and is totally Nintendo centric. There was at least one major console released every year from the seventies until the late nineties; there are no convenience breaks or stopping points to say, "This is a generation." And if you use the common "generations" used, a lot of people released multiple generations of their own hardware in a single console "generation". Not to mention the enormous overlap that occurs; the last Famicom game was released three months before the first Playstation game, for example. Console cycles are messy and the way people use generations to refer to them is especially lovely and bad. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 00:51 on May 28, 2023 |
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May 28, 2023 00:47
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It would probably be better to describe things in terms of eras rather than retro/not retro.
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May 28, 2023 00:53
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Star Man posted:It would probably be better to describe things in terms of eras rather than retro/not retro. That's fair. The "Good" era ends with the SNES and the "Bad" era starts with the N64.
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May 28, 2023 01:03
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Retro is anything I remember fondly otherwise it’s just old poo poo.
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Random Stranger posted:Yeah, Mr. Do shouldn't be shamed by being in the same category as The Last of Us. I dunno most of them seem to have a general technological leap between each generation(like swappable game cartridges coming into prominence in Gen 2) and yeah there often is a messy overlap between them but that's how it almost always is with generational divides in matters cultural, artistic, or technological(and that's what truly makes these kind of divisions interesting, the fact that it often isn't super clear cut) Also I dunno about it being overly American oriented, at least going by the Wikipedia pages they often acknowledge a Japanese system as being the starting and/or ending point for a generation(like how the 3rd generation begins in 1983 with the Famicom's release and arguably only ends when Nintendo officially discontinued it in 2003 or how the 4th gen began with the PC Engine in 1987 and only really ended when the Neo Geo architecture ended in 2004)
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Rubellavator posted:that doesn't quite work cause nintendo released two 6th generation consoles Wii is a Seventh Gen console, even if it is basically just a amped up GameCube in most respects
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Mode 7 posted:Retro is anything I remember fondly otherwise it’s just old poo poo.
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not retro: my posts
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playing a lot of 32 bit era games because that is/is going to be the next hip retro aesthetic. I'm not retro, I'm nextro
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Can’t wait for brown and bloom to be the next retro aesthetic
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The Voice of Labor posted:playing a lot of 32 bit era games because that is/is going to be the next hip retro aesthetic. I'm not retro, I'm nextro hatty posted:Can’t wait for brown and bloom to be the next retro aesthetic have neither of you played DUSK lmao
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out of the ground into the sky out of the sky into the dirt
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kirbysuperstar posted:have neither of you played DUSK lmao Or HROT
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The Voice of Labor posted:playing a lot of 32 bit era games because that is/is going to be the next hip retro aesthetic. I'm not retro, I'm nextro PS1 has been the hot retro aesthetic for a few years now.
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I think the retronauts podcast defines retro games as 10+ years old. I like that definition. It's about a generation and a half behind current gen, maybe two.
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Hit Retro game Grand Theft Auto 5
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And Skyrim.
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how can the rocky horror picture show be considered retro when it's still being screened every weekend? also gently caress this derail
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I've been playing Devil's Crush and I'm suddenly very interested in virtual pinball
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hatty posted:I've been playing Devil's Crush and I'm suddenly very interested in virtual pinball only problem is you've now played one of the best and nothing quite lives up to it! Though I do really like the Doom table to Pinball FX, the Duke Nukem table in Balls of Steel and Metroid Prime Pinball
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hatty posted:Can’t wait for brown and bloom to be the next retro aesthetic If anyone is nostalgic for a brown game, I'll punch them.
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it's not retro, but yoku's island express is the best video game pinball because it's also metroid. demon's tilt, also not retro, is extremely devil's crush inspired
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kirbysuperstar posted:only problem is you've now played one of the best and nothing quite lives up to it! I tried the GBA Pokémon pinball today and it’s pretty decent. I was pretty disappointed in Dragons’s Revenge, worse aesthetic and it doesn’t flow as well as Devils’ Crush
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The Voice of Labor posted:it's not retro, but yoku's island express is the best video game pinball because it's also metroid. demon's tilt, also not retro, is extremely devil's crush inspired So looking forward to the sequel XenoTilt when it hits hatty posted:I tried the GBA Pokémon pinball today and it’s pretty decent. I was pretty disappointed in Dragons’s Revenge, worse aesthetic and it doesn’t flow as well as Devils’ Crush Last Gladiators for the Saturn is kind of neat for a retro option.
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Oh yeah there's also Digital Pinball Necronomicon for Saturn which also has that dude from Dream Theatre, for further satanic fun
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