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It's a legacy of the Second Helvetica War
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post hole digger posted:lol theyre sowwy i am convinced they are contractually obligated to do stupid poo poo like this every once in a while to keep people eyeballing chrome. also why do people leave the "allow mozilla experiments" button on or whatever ive never gotten an ad from firefox
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Jun 7, 2023 20:15
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i think they legitimately thought it would be a good ad for their vpn service. i don't know if other browsers also have modals that take over the entire window, but you certainly get ads for other microsoft services in edge or google services in chrome (and even apple services in safari). they probably thought it was fine at least there's an option to disable it, even if it's technically hidden
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Jun 7, 2023 20:18
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Mr. Crow posted:i am convinced they are contractually obligated to do stupid poo poo like this every once in a while to keep people eyeballing chrome. i dont even know what button that is. asking normal users to opt out of poo poo by fiddling with about :config is bad though imo
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Jun 7, 2023 20:26
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post hole digger posted:i dont even know what button that is. asking normal users to opt out of poo poo by fiddling with about :config is bad though imo its like right in the main setting plain as day, even on mobile  "studies" is what i was thinking of
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Jun 7, 2023 20:33
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also no i dont expect normal users to know or give a poo poo about it but they also arent using firefox and also wouldn't be raising a stink about a random vpn advertisement dialogue
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Jun 7, 2023 20:35
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son of a bitch didnt even know that was a thing.
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Jun 7, 2023 20:38
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does that actually turn it off? i feel like they would have mentioned it instead of an about:config thing
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Jun 7, 2023 20:40
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i dont know but ive never gotten one of these hosed up "marketing" campaign things they periodically do that causes outrage so... I guess? or maybe ive just been lucky
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Jun 7, 2023 20:41
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im pretty sure its enabled by default https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/shield
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Jun 7, 2023 20:42
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huh. i've gotten it on the mobile version before (and yeah, it takes over the whole browser). just checked and it was enabled, so i disabled that, checked about:config and the "browser.vpn_promo.enabled" key doesn't even exist  maybe it's desktop only?
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Jun 7, 2023 20:46
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Beeftweeter posted:does that actually turn it off? i feel like they would have mentioned it instead of an about :config thing it is listed in my poo poo as a 'study i've participated in' on desktop.  (i only saw the ad on desktop)
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Jun 7, 2023 20:49
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post hole digger posted:it is listed in my poo poo as a 'study i've participated in' on desktop. lol, definitely disabling that poo poo at least mozilla gives you the option
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Jun 7, 2023 20:51
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how to get mozilla money: make "firefox pro" as distinct from "firefox community." its costs are as such: * $50 one-time purchase, good for major version. "major version" may need a good definition, but should be every year or two. maybe upgrades from previous version of pro to current version cost $20 * $4/month. $3.50/mo if you buy a year at a time. $3/mo if you buy two years or more firefox pro's features are as such: * the application is called "firefox pro" instead of "firefox community" * all mozilla/partner-generated advertisement features are disabled by default; this toggle never reverts * you get to download a .png that says you support the thing that isn't made by an ad company there, done. it's not gonna be enough to run the company off of, but there's gotta be enough people out there who don't give a poo poo about $3/mo and wouldn't mind paying for a web browser that isn't part of the global capitalist surveillance network (as much as alternatives, at least) idea copyright 2023 achmed jones, firefox execs please contact me for licensing rights, they'll be cheap don't worry
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Jun 7, 2023 20:52
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lol nobody's going to pay for a web browser. that ship has sailed
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Jun 7, 2023 20:53
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like, i don't want mozilla vpn. i'm not gonna give money for mozilla vpn. get the hell outta here with your vpn bullshit that i don't want but i am ok to pay for software. that's fine. make it explicit ya dinguses!
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Jun 7, 2023 20:54
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Roosevelt posted:lol nobody's going to pay for a web browser. that ship has sailed i disagree. i'd also pay for search that doesn't get weird on me (but not the $25/mo or whatever that the company is asking for, that's too much)
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Jun 7, 2023 20:55
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Achmed Jones posted:i disagree. i'd also pay for search that doesn't get weird on me (but not the $25/mo or whatever that the company is asking for, that's too much) id pay for search that DOES get weird on me 
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Jun 7, 2023 20:56
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:id pay for search that DOES get weird on me txt me and we'll set somethin up
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Jun 7, 2023 20:56
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Beeftweeter posted:at least mozilla gives you the option
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Jun 7, 2023 20:59
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Roosevelt posted:lol nobody's going to pay for a web browser. that ship has sailed that ship sailed in the 1990s
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Jun 7, 2023 20:59
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what even was the last one you could buy? netscape navigator? iirc ncsa mosaic was kinda pricy back in the day too
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Jun 7, 2023 21:05
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Elder Postsman posted:what even was the last one you could buy? netscape navigator? iirc ncsa mosaic was kinda pricy back in the day too netscape was the first one to give it away. I think the last browser you could buy was opera.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:14
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i mean there's probably some jackass out there selling rebranded chrome but like opera was iirc the last mainstream browser that was asking for money
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Jun 7, 2023 21:15
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even opera stopped peddling their paid version like 15 years ago
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Jun 7, 2023 21:20
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its one of the big problems in software today imo. I mentioned it in the manifesto but in a world where all software is free, the only thing software companies can make money from is user data.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:35
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rotor posted:its one of the big problems in software today imo. I mentioned it in the manifesto but in a world where all software is free, the only thing software companies can make money from is user data.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:38
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Beeftweeter posted:unless they break ublock i'm not going to stop using it on android
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Jun 7, 2023 21:43
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mystes posted:Not all software is free and the software that isn't free is still misusing user data sometimes even worse than free software capitalists will chase every single possible penny no matter what
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Jun 7, 2023 21:48
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mystes posted:Not all software is free and the software that isn't free is still misusing user data there's no absolutes here, so yeah on the free-as-in-mattress, free-as-in-beer and paid/misuses user data, does not misuse user data matrix there are examples in every cell, but generally the free-as-in-beer software is much worse at misusing user data
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Jun 7, 2023 21:53
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rotor posted:its one of the big problems in software today imo. I mentioned it in the manifesto but in a world where all software is free, the only thing software companies can make money from is user data. so let's get rid of money as it exists currently
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Jun 7, 2023 21:53
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rotor posted:there's no absolutes here, so yeah on the free-as-in-mattress, free-as-in-beer and paid/misuses user data, does not misuse user data matrix there are examples in every cell, but generally the free-as-in-beer software is much worse at misusing user data i'm not so sure about that, a lot of the paid things usually just don't tell you what they do with the data (or if they do it's not very easy to find)
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Jun 7, 2023 22:06
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every company knows how bad you smell
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Jun 7, 2023 22:08
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echinopsis posted:every company knows how bad you smell jokes on them i gave all of my computers covid
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Jun 7, 2023 22:20
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I get a big lol from the chome adverts that act like they just invented saving passwords and the one with some vague thing about protecting you from "bad websites" or something which I can only assume uses footage of someone getting goatse'd and going "nonononono" trying to close it
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Jun 7, 2023 22:49
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mystes posted:Not all software is free and the software that isn't free is still misusing user data I love how we made such great strides in computing performance over the past twenty years and it all went to: 1. churning through petabytes of consumer behaviour data 2. ensuring users are never not looking at advertisements
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Jun 7, 2023 22:49
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armpit_enjoyer posted:I love how we made such great strides in computing performance over the past twenty years and it all went to: 3. procedurally generating monkeys to rob rubes
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Jun 7, 2023 23:14
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Google Authenticator just tried to get me to opt in to cloud storage. that's the stupidest possible thing you could do with your two-factor auth, yes?
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Jun 8, 2023 00:08
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Cheston posted:Google Authenticator just tried to get me to opt in to cloud storage. that's the stupidest possible thing you could do with your two-factor auth, yes? apparently its a common thing but yes i agree it does seem really dumb
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Cheston posted:Google Authenticator just tried to get me to opt in to cloud storage. that's the stupidest possible thing you could do with your two-factor auth, yes? if you use google's yes cause its bad. use microsoft authenticator which encrypts things using ur microsoft account before they get backed up in icloud. backing up MFA keys is pretty much a requirement cause the alternatives are: 1) get locked out of your account forever which means nobody will ever take the risk of turning on MFA 2) use a backup code to regain account access which means saving those codes somewhere (most people will put them in cloud storage) 3) make MFA easily removed from an account when lost making MFA worthless
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