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Corla Plankun posted:i played a few games in 256 color that seemed pretty at the time, i think dr brain 2 and the weird xgames game i had were both 256 colors weren’t all the big classic 2d/2.5d games in 256 colour like monkey island, space quest, wolfenstein, commander keen et al
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git apologist posted:weren’t all the big classic 2d/2.5d games in 256 colour most of them used even fewer. monkey island and space quest were both EGA (16 color), pretty sure the Keen games until 4 were as well. Wolfenstein was definitely VGA.
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wolf3d was originally supposed to support ega https://tcrf.net/Development:Wolfenstein_3D_(DOS)
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Volmarias posted:Webcomics. So many webcomics this webring is hentai free!
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Voodoo Cafe posted:most of them used even fewer. monkey island and space quest were both EGA (16 color), pretty sure the Keen games until 4 were as well. Wolfenstein was definitely VGA. monkey island on amiga was not “ee gee aye”
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keen 4 is 16-colour on its highest setting and looks amazing given the restriction. pretty much tricks my brain into thinking the palette is larger than it really is, don't ask me how. (probably judicious use of dithering combined with decent quality art direction) the adventures of square hit the aesthetic really well, and kind of does the opposite thing where it tricks my brain into thinking it's ega when really it uses a wider palette but just leans heavily on the ega 16. is there anything else out there that shared this vibe?
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monkey island definitely had vga graphics glorious, beautiful vga graphics
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well-read undead posted:monkey island definitely had vga graphics it eventually did, but it was an EGA game first. 
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hmm it seems they were released a mere 2 months apart. i didn’t know that!
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MrQueasy posted:it eventually did, but it was an EGA game first. I never knew
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MrQueasy posted:it eventually did, but it was an EGA game first. this image is horrifying
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git apologist posted:this image is horrifying attack of the hot dog people
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a lot of those games came out ega first and got vga reproductions a favourite of mine was quest for glory iv which was released in vga but came out in both classic and "multimedia" editions, the latter of which was distinguished mostly just by being on cd-rom and having john rhys-davies narrating everything
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256 colours on VGA can also look pretty bad because the RGB values are only 64 levels each, so dithering stands out noticeably unless you pick the palette very carefully it wasn't until SVGA that you got 256 levels and a full 16M palette
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Catacomb Abyss did 3D on EGA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvchTRFFYhU Very atmospheric visuals, and of course, PC Speaker sound fx Of course, there was earlier Catacomb 3-D and even earlier, Hovertank, but they had kinda dire art direction in comparison. I love how outright weird the later Catacomb episodes were looking. Look at that motley crew 
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well-read undead posted:monkey island definitely had vga graphics MrQueasy posted:it eventually did, but it was an EGA game first. From man to hot dog, from woman to hot dog mom.
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mediaphage posted:a lot of those games came out ega first and got vga reproductions monkey island had a 4 color cga mode (i think the command line option was -c), although i don't know if it had actual cga card support, or if it needed an ega card and just supported the 4 color compatibility mode for reasons 
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i'd love to know the reasoning behind the color choices for the two incredibly ugly cga graphics palettes. those colors almost feel like a "we tried to make them as ugly as possible, as a joke"
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pretty sure i played it on my tandy 1000 hx, so it must have supported tga/cga directly
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The_Franz posted:i'd love to know the reasoning behind the color choices for the two incredibly ugly cga graphics palettes. those colors almost feel like a "we tried to make them as ugly as possible, as a joke" from what i understand its just that monitor tech sucked, IBM was cheap and didn't want to spend too much money on bideo shames poo poo. so they were stuck with a couple high contrast small palettes
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The_Franz posted:i'd love to know the reasoning behind the color choices for the two incredibly ugly cga graphics palettes. those colors almost feel like a "we tried to make them as ugly as possible, as a joke" CGA cards only had 16K VRAM, which isn't enough to store red green and blue for every pixel. so they used it to store 1 bit each for the red and green planes and generated the blue plane automatically from the other two using logic gates. there are actually three palettes, but the third was only partially documented by IBM black / magenta / cyan / white: blue is the logical OR of red + green black / red / green / yellow: blue is forced to 0 black / red / cyan / white: blue is copied from green Sweevo fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 2, 2023 |
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Neat!
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to five year old me it was only natural that everything was cyan and magenta
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It's even more than that, too, depending on if you're using the digital mode or over composite i know the 8 bit guy sucks and is a chud but suffer thru him for a minute till you get to the part about how CRTs and composite handle CGA completely differently (timestamped - watch for like 2 and a half minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKblgZupOc&t=262s
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git apologist posted:this image is horrifying
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well-read undead posted:to five year old me it was only natural that everything was cyan and magenta it's also worth noting that while EGA/VGA is "backwards compatible" with CGA, one thing that's missing is palette swapping. If CGA software calls the BIOS routines to change palette then EGA/VGA will intercept the call and select the appropriate CGA palette. But most CGA software didn't use the BIOS, it wrote directly to hardware registers which don't exist on EGA/VGA, so those cards end up using the default magenta/cyan/white palette even though the software thinks it has changed to one of the others.
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space quest III looked great to me, we played it on an IBM PS1 with I think EGA or maybe VGA graphics
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you're talking about games from an era that had multiple platforms that games were routinely ported to, you can reasonably expect a game to have at least half of CGA, EGA, VGA, and SVGA graphics
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Leperflesh posted:space quest III looked great to me, we played it on an IBM PS1 with I think EGA or maybe VGA graphics
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pseudorandom name posted:you're talking about games from an era that had multiple platforms that games were routinely ported to, you can reasonably expect a game to have at least half of CGA, EGA, VGA, and SVGA graphics yes grandma this is the game I wanted but this is the atari st version and I have an amiga
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Sniep posted:It's even more than that, too, depending on if you're using the digital mode or over composite thanks this was cool
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all these monkey island references make the music play in my head and that's wonderful also somehow that blocky rear end old game gave me the most 'i am on a carribean island on a warm night' vibes of any media ever
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git apologist posted:all these monkey island references make the music play in my head and that's wonderful when i hear the monkey island music in my head it’s still that janky pc speaker reggae from the beginning of the game, and i love it agreed about vibes, truly one of the all time great games
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Pinball Fantasies could play the .mod sountrack through the PC speakers. cool game.
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monkey island 2 and indy 4 each came on 11 disks so much swapping only to find out my copy of disk idk 8 was hosed ;_;
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Carthag Tuek posted:monkey island 2 and indy 4 each came on 11 disks you could just ask Lucasarts to replace the disk for free
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