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lets get em boys
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# ? May 22, 2023 13:33 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 22:01 |
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Zodium posted:also if you live outside denmark for too long, you count as non-white. no Dane ever called me whitey
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# ? May 22, 2023 15:06 |
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remember when the us and australia agreed to swap refugees to resettle, seemingly based on the theory that americans wouldn't go as psycho at papuans and australians would feel less rage about central americans?
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# ? May 22, 2023 16:55 |
lobster shirt posted:remember when the us and australia agreed to swap refugees to resettle, seemingly based on the theory that americans wouldn't go as psycho at papuans and australians would feel less rage about central americans?
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# ? May 22, 2023 17:32 |
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lobster shirt posted:remember when the us and australia agreed to swap refugees to resettle, seemingly based on the theory that americans wouldn't go as psycho at papuans and australians would feel less rage about central americans? didn't Trump nix it because of "local milk people"? I remember that very specific phrase
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# ? May 22, 2023 19:50 |
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Zodium posted:also if you live outside denmark for too long, you count as non-white. wtf https://storbritannien.um.dk/en/travel-and-residence/danish-nationality/danish-nationals-born-abroad
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# ? May 22, 2023 21:09 |
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:didn't Trump nix it because of "local milk people"? I remember that very specific phrase no he was just complaining about it in a phone call with the pm of australia at the time but we still did hte deal. struck by obama of course.
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# ? May 25, 2023 03:54 |
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Lol, when Serbia joined the EU one of the stipulations was they had to give up Yugoslavian immigration policies which were friendly to immigration from Africa/Asia.
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# ? May 30, 2023 15:36 |
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https://twitter.com/niilash1/status/1665276057409273857?cxt=HHwWgoC-7Ynwn5wuAAAA
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 03:00 |
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what about immigration, op?
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 03:19 |
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Glad to learn NZ is about half the size of India.
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# ? Jun 5, 2023 22:39 |
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https://newrepublic.com/post/173247/florida-republicans-admit-made-big-mistake-anti-immigrant-lawquote:Florida Republicans passed a bill criminalizing the transport of undocumented people into Florida, requiring hospitals to ask about immigration status on intake forms, invalidating out of state driver’s licenses or other forms of government ID issued to undocumented people, and preventing local governments from issuing identification cards to undocumented people. Opps
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 23:23 |
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the classic fascist mistake of forgetting to exploit a minority before you destroy it
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# ? Jun 7, 2023 23:46 |
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500 migrants en route to Europe dead in a single boat accident this past week, overall migrant deaths are generally increasing:quote:Over 500 migrants drowned near Greece: Fortress Europe and the refugee crisis I remember the incredible outraged reaction to the pictures of Alan Kurdi. However the dangers migrants face have only gotten worse since then. There's a lot of contemporary articles pointing out all the various ways European nations have made legal immigration harder, directly leading to these regular tragedies.
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# ? Jun 18, 2023 11:50 |
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Kind of feel like the near future plan regardless of how resistant these countries now are to it, is that immigrants from countries in the global south who are going to suffer from ecological collapse will wind up settling into parts of Eastern Europe like Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine (post war if that happens). They may not like it now but between the exodus of their own youth and rich leaving and so much of their population being older, they will need people there and Western Europe, NA or Australia will not take in these POC. They would prefer to have the rich upper middle class people already fleeing from Ukraine cause they are white. I was talking to an immigration lawyer and basically Canada has opened the gates for them while stonewalling any POC. That story is horrifying but Europe will not care, they will only allow in the ones who are "educated" rich and accustomed to "western values" and will tell them just stay in the rural parts of Eastern Europe and develop a new culture and identity there.
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# ? Jun 18, 2023 12:05 |
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Death By The Blues posted:I was talking to an immigration lawyer and basically Canada has opened the gates for them while stonewalling any POC. That's been the case since the start of the war. Ukrainian skipped ahead to the front of the line, and without any of the hemming and hawing that comes with accepting brown ones. I also read a story about an Ukrainian refugee moving back because this country has 0 social safety nets, and basically no public infrastructure.
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# ? Jun 21, 2023 19:23 |
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Nocturtle posted:500 migrants en route to Europe dead in a single boat accident this past week, overall migrant deaths are generally increasing: I barely saw any stories about this, guess you can't give much attention to this when there are a bunch of rich morons who risked their lives for no reason lost at sea.
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# ? Jun 21, 2023 19:25 |
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Is this the one the Greek coast guard seemingly capsized on purpose by zigzagging while towing it?
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# ? Jun 24, 2023 12:31 |
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Weka posted:Is this the one the Greek coast guard seemingly capsized on purpose by zigzagging while towing it? On this subject a BBC investigation suggests the coast guards were lying about the events leading up to this most recent migrant ship sinking and could have helped before it happened: quote:Greece boat disaster: BBC investigation casts doubt on coastguard's claims
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# ? Jun 24, 2023 14:15 |
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Death By The Blues posted:That story is horrifying but Europe will not care, they will only allow in the ones who are "educated" rich and accustomed to "western values" and will tell them just stay in the rural parts of Eastern Europe and develop a new culture and identity there. She's fortunately been here long enough she's on her final steps to getting citizenship (through work) so hopefully she'll never have to deal with that poo poo again but it's just exhausting. She's one of the "good" ones, she's been here legally the whole time, financially self sufficient with a stable career in a field we're short on people, owns property (to live in obviously), getting her citizenship through employment sponsorship, checks basically all the boxes economically, legally, demographically for an ideal immigrant candidate and she still gets treated like trash by the system. It's a wonder she puts up with at all to be here.
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# ? Jun 24, 2023 16:03 |
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Okay, but without strict immigration laws, how can we enslave people by taking away their documents and threatening to report them?
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# ? Jun 24, 2023 16:08 |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I also read a story about an Ukrainian refugee moving back because this country has 0 social safety nets, and basically no public infrastructure. lmao
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# ? Jun 24, 2023 16:11 |
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Nocturtle posted:I think the event your referencing happened back in 2014. This is a much more recent case of the coast guard brutally treating migrants, just within the past month. Nope it was this one, although they deny it. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/23/europe/greece-migrant-boat-disaster-investigation-intl-cmd/index.html quote:One survivor from Syria, whom CNN is identifying as Rami, described how a Greek coast guard vessel approached the trawler multiple times to try to attach a rope to tow the ship, with disastrous results.
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# ? Jun 25, 2023 10:35 |
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Many people come to the U.S. as a result of wars due to either direct U.S. military involvement or military campaigns by surrogates financed and trained by the U.S. For example, many flee repression caused by U.S.-supported death squads in Central America ... People from many countries emigrate to the U.S. because of dire economic situations in their home countries, in many cases caused by U.S. banks and U.S.-led international monetary institutions. Backward forces use such immigration to bolster their claim that the U.S. is a beacon of freedom. Being forced to leave one’s homeland is most often a result of U.S. transnational corporations and their intensive exploitation abroad, backed up by U.S. foreign and military policy. Many people who immigrate to the U.S. looking for economic survival are refugees from the economic policies of U.S. imperialism and the neocolonial, neoliberal “free trade” exploitation experienced around the world. Many refugees flee their countries due to right-wing dictatorships and death squads supported and trained by the U.S., such as those in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and elsewhere in Central America. Many immigrants from the Caribbean are trying to escape the U.S. stranglehold on their home countries. Dominicans, Haitians, Jamaicans, and others play vital roles in many communities in the U.S. Haitian immigrants, from the poorest country in the hemisphere, have experienced U.S. support for dictators and death squads, have witnessed U.S. attempts to subvert and co-opt popular democratic movements, and have been subjected to direct exploitation by U.S., French, and other transnational corporations. Once in the U.S., they face continued impoverishment, health crises, racism, and discrimination. Increasing populations of immigrants from countries in Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe have come to the U.S. in recent years, fleeing economic oppression, war, decreasing living standards, lack of opportunity, famine, and genocide.
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# ? Jun 25, 2023 10:44 |
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Yeah I had about half a second of hope watching Meloni speak during the election when she said the way to end immigration is to stop loving up Africa. Predictably she's slotted right in with EU foreign policy unfortunately.
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# ? Jun 25, 2023 11:37 |
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Zodium posted:also if you live outside denmark for too long, you count as non-white.
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# ? Jun 25, 2023 12:01 |
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Nocturtle posted:I think the event your referencing happened back in 2014. This is a much more recent case of the coast guard brutally treating migrants, just within the past month. They happen all the time, also I was reminded about the captain who got arrested because she rescued drowning immigrants. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/07/01/hero-or-pirate-arrest-german-captain-who-rescued-migrants-divides-europe/
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 15:29 |
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That's true, the most recent boat disaster that killed 500 people was only one especially bad incident of what have become regular occurrences. That captain being arrested reminds me of a US priest being arrested for feeding the homeless, as in both cases the transgression was helping the wrong type of people. Not directly related I've wanted to bring up the situation with migrants being sent to NYC but haven't known what to link specifically because it's a giant ongoing fiasco. The most recent development has been that the number of asylum seekers and migrants in NYC shelters now exceeds the entire homeless population (about 50000 each). A lot of the reporting has been very critical of the "migrant crisis" and unsurprisingly the New York Post has been regularly inflammatory, here's one recent example: This could become a major driver of anti-immigration sentiment. Adams has been predictably useless and has been trying to send migrants to other jurisdictions, there are court challenges etc. As it turns out a number of migrant children were placed in my kids' public school classrooms this past school year. They only spoke Spanish and these are nominally English-speaking classrooms, but fortunately the teachers knew Spanish and could accommodate them. All the children have been very friendly with each other despite there often being a language barrier which was nice. It's not fun to think of these kids being a political hot potato.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 18:53 |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lol, when Serbia joined the EU one of the stipulations was they had to give up Yugoslavian immigration policies which were friendly to immigration from Africa/Asia. serbia is not in the EU op
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 19:46 |
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speng31b posted:joe biden is bad and americans are demons 90% of Americans support murdering migrants in the border, 50% of them just publicly pretend not to so you don't know they are monsters.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:39 |
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Al! posted:im a no borders and 1-step path to citizenship guy. sorry border freaks but there's literally no reason to keep people out of the united states who have been forced out of their home countries by the united states We will never have a unified humanity with borders, border supporters just worry they will lose the easily exploited other.
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:42 |
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Turtle Sandbox posted:90% of Americans support murdering migrants in the border, 50% of them just publicly pretend not to so you don't know they are monsters. the 90% figure only reflects those americans who support allowing migrants to die in concentration camps, not those advocating for "free range" murder. politifact rates this claim pants on fire
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# ? Jun 27, 2023 21:53 |
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recently read this very depressing story about abuse of migrants at the Spain-Morocco border:quote:Since last summer, on the 24th of every month, Marisa Amaro and Maite Echarte have driven up to the fence around the Spanish enclave of Melilla on Morocco’s northern coast to tie bunches of flowers onto the steel mesh outside the Barrio Chino border crossing. Amaro and Echarte, who work assisting asylum seekers in Melilla, are usually alone there. The crossing itself has been closed since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, but recently people have also stopped trying to climb over. When I accompanied them earlier this year, Amaro nodded at the three parallel barriers stretching off into the distance – two six-metre-high fences with a shorter fence in between. On the Moroccan side there is also a tall earthen berm, a trench and a three-metre-high outer fence lined with coiled concertina wire. ‘Es una barbaridad,’ she muttered. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n08/ben-ehrenreich/short-cuts
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# ? Jul 7, 2023 23:44 |
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An asylum center surrounded by an impassable series of barriers is a good symbol of how western countries are handling increasing numbers of refugees.
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# ? Jul 8, 2023 12:22 |
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My opinion is that countries and borders aren't real and immigration is the natural right of every human
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# ? Jul 8, 2023 12:43 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/world/europe/dutch-government-collapses.html Now watch as another european center right coalition magically turns hyper right wing
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# ? Jul 8, 2023 12:44 |
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Nocturtle posted:An asylum center surrounded by an impassable series of barriers is a good symbol of how western countries are handling increasing numbers of refugees. Just read the story about how the British government ordered an asylum centre for unaccompanied children to paint over murals of cartoon characters on the walls because they made it feel too welcoming and not enough like being in prison.
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# ? Jul 8, 2023 13:32 |
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vyelkin posted:Just read the story about how the British government ordered an asylum centre for unaccompanied children to paint over murals of cartoon characters on the walls because they made it feel too welcoming and not enough like being in prison. https://www.theartnewspaper.com/202...lcoming-artwork God drat I hadn't heard about this story but that is grim. vyelkin posted:recently read this very depressing story about abuse of migrants at the Spain-Morocco border: This was a great article, thanks for sharing.
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# ? Jul 8, 2023 18:44 |
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An investigation into the migrant vessel that capsized off the Greek shore in June, killing at least 500 people, has just released some findings. That link goes to some of the data with a map and timeline, and here's a link to some journalism about it with extra details. The short version is: the Greek Coast Guard received multiple warnings that an overloaded vessel was in trouble, intercepted the boat fairly close to the Greek shore, and instead of offering assistance they tried to lead the vessel away from Greece into Italian waters, despite Italian waters being farther away than Greek land, and Italian land being much farther away than that (it's hard to measure the distances but doing a rough job with Google Maps, I estimate they were about 90 km off the Greek coast and about 500+ km from the Italian coast). After an hour of this, the boat's engine died and the Greek Coast Guard ship responded by attaching a rope and trying to tow the boat, which resulted in it capsizing. After capsizing the boat, the Coast Guard ship sailed away, creating a wake that contributed to the capsized boat fully sinking, and then returned to rescue survivors 30 minutes later, after hundreds of people had died. Other details include the Greek authorities not responding to multiple calls for assistance, not dispatching Coast Guard vessels that were closer and could have provided aid faster, not responding to offers of additional assistance from other EU sources, the Greek ship turning off its installed cameras so they wouldn't record the incident, the Coast Guard personnel confiscating migrants' phones so that there wouldn't be any videos of the incident, and the Coast Guard tampering with survivor statements to try and cover it all up by claiming the boat just sank all on its own. Not every incident gets such a detailed investigation but this is what the entire Western world's immigration policies look like on the ground: do everything possible to push migrants away from your own borders until they're someone else's problem, and if the result of that is that you murder hundreds of people, cover it up and blame the migrants for their own deaths.
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# ? Jul 10, 2023 14:13 |
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ScrubLeague posted:My opinion is that countries and borders aren't real and immigration is the natural right of every human documents and housing for all freedom of movement and residence
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