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| JERICHO VS KOMANDER |
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0 | 0% |
| SAMMY AND DANNY VS CASSIDY AND DARBY |
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8 | 11.59% |
| MAX AND ADAM VS BRIAN AND BIG |
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24 | 34.78% |
| RUBY VS SKYE |
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1 | 1.45% |
| NICK VS SWERVE |
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36 | 52.17% |
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Shard posted:I didn't see him When Matt does the Empire jingle.
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Jul 17, 2023 19:43
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I like Saraya even if she isn’t given much to do. I was penalized for this opinion by the gods not having Sling DVR collision even though I had it set up. I’m assuming it will be on demand next week but that really sucks.
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Jul 17, 2023 19:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHc-Z3X3eYM
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Jul 17, 2023 19:46
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Saraya is a rich woman's Rebel
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Jul 17, 2023 19:48
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Outcasts are a great act but that doesn't mean they aren't humongous losers bad at wrestling attached to a world champion
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Jul 17, 2023 19:54
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Saraya's fine, there are just people in the women's division I'd rather see. Plus it continues to irritate me that sometimes when she does the finger-thumb L she uses the wrong hand.
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Jul 17, 2023 19:56
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DLC Inc posted:Outcasts are a great act but that doesn't mean they aren't humongous losers bad at wrestling attached to a world champion Toni Storm is a bad wrestler? 
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Jul 17, 2023 19:58
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The tone and quality between the men's and women's main events is pretty wide and the Outcasts are a big part of it. They're getting better but God drat it was dire when the women's division was "Jamie has the belt but the focus is on the Outcasts calling people losers and acting like it's highschool".
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Jul 17, 2023 20:05
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:Toni Storm is a bad wrestler? nah the bad wrestlers are attached to the world champion
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Jul 17, 2023 20:08
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:Toni Storm is a bad wrestler?
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Jul 17, 2023 20:10
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Never read posts all the way to the end just reflexively smash reply at the exact point it makes you mad
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Jul 17, 2023 20:12
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The Outcasts would be a better act if they dropped all the Bella Twins tribute poo poo
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Jul 17, 2023 20:12
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History Comes Inside! posted:Never read posts all the way to the end just reflexively smash reply at the exact point it makes you mad
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Jul 17, 2023 20:14
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Rarity posted:The Outcasts would be a better act if they dropped all the Bella Twins tribute poo poo Saraya, Toni, and Ruby would be a great act if they were just mean and angry and not mean girls.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:15
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jesus WEP posted:read the post to the very end I misread champion as championship, my bad
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Jul 17, 2023 20:16
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Rarity posted:The Outcasts would be a better act if they dropped all the Bella Twins tribute poo poo As somebody who dropped wrestling from 02-20, what does this mean
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Jul 17, 2023 20:18
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The Mean Girls stuff is what is making them fun, c'mon now. Cardboard Saraya was great as was the Renaissance Painting that put Ruby over Britt. They just need better foils and some direction in the division.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:19
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Lamuella posted:Saraya's fine, there are just people in the women's division I'd rather see. Plus it continues to irritate me that sometimes when she does the finger-thumb L she uses the wrong hand. it's cause she's british, that's how they drive
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Jul 17, 2023 20:19
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“the Outcasts act like oblivious lame annoying middle school bullies who haven’t grown up” is a weird criticism of the act because that’s the entire point?
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Jul 17, 2023 20:23
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Bard Maddox posted:“the Outcasts act like oblivious lame annoying middle school bullies who haven’t grown up” is a weird criticism of the act because that’s the entire point? I'd just love to see literally anything else in women's wrestling because we have 30+ years of absolute garbage acts that were all about being middle school mean girl bullies and it would be cool if AEW which is great about being fresh and new could actually do something fresh and new with the division.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:26
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Gumball Gumption posted:The tone and quality between the men's and women's main events is pretty wide and the Outcasts are a big part of it. They're getting better but God drat it was dire when the women's division was "Jamie has the belt but the focus is on the Outcasts calling people losers and acting like it's highschool". Hayter having sick title defenses was pretty cool, I liked that.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:27
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Saraya is a great get...on paper, but her in ring stuff hasn't really recovered and she's only as good as those she works with, and the goofy rear end Ronnie Radke poo poo doesn't help. Every time they try to make something of the women's division it feels stymied by injuries, certain talents just not being where they need to be yet, visa issues, and other things out of their control. Yuka Sakazaki was the latest blow - I genuinely believe they wanted to start building the division around her and bringing back the joshi focus they had at the start but a neck injury is no joke. Mercedes fell through, Jamie got injured, Britt kind of fell backwards into her role and is dealing with injury too, Thunder Rosa got injured mid-hot-run, Jade isn't there yet in the ring, Taya's run has been cursed and the Canada tour paused her heel run and Stat program, Toni is awesome and Ruby is cool but that's two people, and Athena is currently crushing it in ROH but they might not want to split her time right now. And whenever they book Riho they have to deal with pretty much the worst people on the planet saying utterly heinous poo poo and like, who the gently caress would want to work under those conditions? On the heel side Nyla could use more screen time, and I have no idea why they aren’t putting Abadon on TV right now, especially after they’ve been putting in the work to get into great physical shape recently. I think with JAS falling apart and Tay out on maternity leave Anna Jay is probably getting a repackage soon supporting Jungle Boy (unless she goes back to Dark Order, which she shouldn’t). Skye Blue seems to be getting a big face push too and they’ve been improving, I’d like them to keep investing in their young stars like this and give Julia Hart more in-ring time, they should be leveraging how well her work with HoB has been received into a more prominent role in the division.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:31
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Hayter better be at Wembley and clothesline some fools
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Jul 17, 2023 20:31
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Gumball Gumption posted:I'd just love to see literally anything else in women's wrestling because we have 30+ years of absolute garbage acts that were all about being middle school mean girl bullies and it would be cool if AEW which is great about being fresh and new could actually do something fresh and new with the division. It's definitely the worst iteration of female heels in AEW, but I never thought it was as bad as most people here do I actually think Saraya is pretty funny ringside, and if she just does bull's angelito a few times a year I'm perfectly happy. I like Ruby but she REALLY needs some big wins to feel like a threat. Maybe the best promo behind Britt in the division though. Toni rules. The shtick is decidedly not good but they're easy to hate. I think part of the problem is it's hard to emphasize their essence without talking about wrestling outside of AEW, which is not easy to work into a promo. It also doesn't help that the faces aren't prominent enough on the show for it to feel like the Outcasts are affecting them outside of the matches E: why does nobody do Bull's Angelito? Move is incredible
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Jul 17, 2023 20:34
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I'd like to see athena more on the wednesday or saturday shows
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Jul 17, 2023 20:34
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The Taxman posted:It's definitely the worst iteration of female heels in AEW,
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Jul 17, 2023 20:39
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pressedbunny posted:Oh how quickly we forget the Nightmare Collective. Before I started watching! DOESN'T COUNT Based on descriptions though, I will concede the point
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Jul 17, 2023 20:40
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Lamuella posted:Saraya's fine, there are just people in the women's division I'd rather see. Plus it continues to irritate me that sometimes when she does the finger-thumb L she uses the wrong hand. Britt does the D.M.D. pointing in reverse so it looks correct from our viewpoint which is why she's GOAT.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:43
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Bard Maddox posted:“the Outcasts act like oblivious lame annoying middle school bullies who haven’t grown up” is a weird criticism of the act because that’s the entire point? Well then maybe the commentators should stop talking about them like they're an existential threat to the women's division, because those two things don't fit together. Also I hope Brodie gets to choke someone out again. https://twitter.com/OfficialEGO/status/1681025492214861829
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Jul 17, 2023 20:43
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Gumball Gumption posted:I'd just love to see literally anything else in women's wrestling because we have 30+ years of absolute garbage acts that were all about being middle school mean girl bullies and it would be cool if AEW which is great about being fresh and new could actually do something fresh and new with the division. I guess that’s a fair criticism. I don’t really mind it because they’re all very talented and doing well with live crowds even running well-trod ground. I even like the lameness of it because it gives opponents on the way up like Willow and Skye Blue ammo to play off of even if the interference spots are overplayed. plus Ruby Soho keeps going Full Goto in big matches which always rocks
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Jul 17, 2023 20:45
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Well then maybe the commentators should stop talking about them like they're an existential threat to the women's division, because those two things don't fit together. To be fair, they have successfully taken the women's championship and ruin outcomes all the time, which could be considered an existential threat to a fair and prosperous women's division (in wrestling terms)
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Jul 17, 2023 20:46
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i see the outcasts, i fast-forward, it's just that simple
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Jul 17, 2023 20:50
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MassRafTer posted:Hayter having sick title defenses was pretty cool, I liked that. I wish she had more than just three defenses and didn't get completely swept up into tag team stuff. The Eliminator matches were cool but the idea of the Eliminator is such a WWE thing and I wish they'd stop doing it.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:56
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Vandar posted:I wish she had more than just three defenses and didn't get completely swept up into tag team stuff. They were cooler when AEW had rankings because it was a way to jump into contention. Now it's just kinda filler.
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Jul 17, 2023 20:58
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Vandar posted:The Eliminator matches were cool but the idea of the Eliminator is such a WWE thing How so?
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Jul 17, 2023 21:01
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Vandar posted:The Eliminator matches were cool but the idea of the Eliminator is such a WWE thing and I wish they'd stop doing it. The "champ loses to someone and someone gets a title shot" is a tired WWE trope. The idea of the Eliminator, as explained two weeks ago on Collision, is that if you can beat the champ in a non-title match you earn a shot; if you lose, you can't challenge for the belt again as long as they hold the belt. It gives it a bit more gravity to me than the tired poo poo WWE does because that's like the only way WWE seems to know how to setup challengers for the past 20 years.
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Jul 17, 2023 21:03
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Ganso Bomb posted:The "champ loses to someone and someone gets a title shot" is a tired WWE trope. The idea of the Eliminator, as explained two weeks ago on Collision, is that if you can beat the champ in a non-title match you earn a shot; if you lose, you can't challenge for the belt again as long as they hold the belt. It gives it a bit more gravity to me than the tired poo poo WWE does because that's like the only way WWE seems to know how to setup challengers for the past 20 years. Apparently that "can't challenge again" thing was just for the FTR/BCG match and not for every Eliminator.
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Jul 17, 2023 21:05
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White Women Worldwide seemed like a cool faction at the start; Toni and Soho had legitimate You People gripes and are good, but like. Since it started Toni and Soho are having worse matches than before, with dumb obvious group cheating as a major factor of their competitive matches. If this was just violent storm and ruby who do more chair shots and stuff I'd be down, but I just feel at an all time low for Soho, and I know Toni can put better matches than this
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Jul 17, 2023 21:07
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White Women World Wide is what I’m going to call them now
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Jul 17, 2023 21:12
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Whenever Nyla and Riho aren't on my screen I open my window and yell "Where are Nyla and Riho?!". No one knows.
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