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Jehde posted:TNI got remastered last year! Took a while for my local record store to get it in, but glad to finally have it to go with my original Caustic Grip LP. Whaaaat!? Thanks, I just bought it!
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Jul 20, 2023 20:54
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thotsky posted:At least the number two is good. Head like a hole?! I'm not surprised at all. As soon as I got to like the 20's I knew it would be #1. Lots of respect for Headhunter at #2.
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Jul 20, 2023 20:58
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I was happily surprised to see the Murder Inc. track show up on that list.
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Jul 20, 2023 21:05
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hatelull posted:They also dropped a Top 50 Industrial Songs Of All Time! (or at least up until the 20th of July in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty-three). This list reads like it was put together by gen-Xers now in their 40s who largely stopped listening to industrial in the late 90s but are now desperately checking their old dusty collections of physical media so the listicle can get done.
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Jul 20, 2023 22:35
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Jul 20, 2023 22:40
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Danger - Octopus! posted:This list reads like it was put together by gen-Xers now in their 40s who largely stopped listening to industrial in the late 90s but are now desperately checking their old dusty collections of physical media so the listicle can get done. Even by that standard, the list is a failure. KMFDM "A Drug Against War" at number 50, "Megalomaniac" at number 12? That's... random.
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Jul 20, 2023 22:42
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Even considering the nebulous criteria of “influence and legacy in the grand scheme of the genre” I’m not sure how Gravity Kills of all things made the list. Stabbing Westward seemed way more popular back in the day I’m internet-mad about Numb not being mentioned in either the album or song list
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Jul 20, 2023 23:09
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Hedenius posted:Everything FLA released from Caustic Grip to Implode are all time great albums. And Decoder somehow manages to be better than all of those. I don't think I have ever seen someone call FLAvour of the Weak a great album. I would maybe agree that a Noise Unit album is better than all of them but it is Strategy of Violence. But Implode is really good and has some of my favorite FLA samples. Millennium kicks rear end and I love the guitar samples. I love hosed up guitar samples in industrial and stuff on Millennium is second only to CTec's downsampled guitars on Gesselschaft as my favorite hosed up sounding guitars.
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Jul 21, 2023 00:38
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in light of the list I don't feel too bad about veering off topic. for an upbeat pop single, katy perry's california girls is oddly somber, like the lameness of 2010 economic and social collapse was so overwhelming it even made a goodtimes summer jam kinda sad and reserved
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Jul 21, 2023 00:38
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I Die: You Die covered the Consequence-whatever top 50 albums list, 3Teeth’s list and Al’s list at the beginning of their podcast this week. Pretty much the same reaction as a lot of us. 3Teeth’s list makes sense for 3Teeth, Al’s list is super cool, the 50 albums are a bit batshit with too much metal. They brought up another site that did Top 5 industrial metal albums. https://www.revolvermag.com/music/fan-poll-top-5-industrial-metal-albums-all-time#1-nine-inch-nails-downward-spiral I don’t listen to Godflesh or Fear Factory, but I’m fine with that list.
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Jul 21, 2023 03:46
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:I Die: You Die covered the Consequence-whatever top 50 albums list, 3Teeth’s list and Al’s list at the beginning of their podcast this week. Pretty much the same reaction as a lot of us. 3Teeth’s list makes sense for 3Teeth, Al’s list is super cool, the 50 albums are a bit batshit with too much metal. They brought up another site that did Top 5 industrial metal albums. I'm with Bill Leeb, Nine Inch Nails is not industrial metal it is industrial rock, this list disgusts me.
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Jul 21, 2023 03:56
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:I Die: You Die covered the Consequence-whatever top 50 albums list, 3Teeth’s list and Al’s list at the beginning of their podcast this week. Pretty much the same reaction as a lot of us. 3Teeth’s list makes sense for 3Teeth, Al’s list is super cool, the 50 albums are a bit batshit with too much metal. They brought up another site that did Top 5 industrial metal albums. That list would have been lazy clickbait even back in the nineties. As someone that used to play industrial metal, there are about zero good bands outside early Swans and bands they influenced (Godflesh, Neurosis). KMFDM, Fear Factory, Rammstein, Rob Zombie etc should be fed to a wood chipper feet first. Old man rant over.
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Jul 21, 2023 06:24
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Head Like A Hole was my primary entry point into the genre, and that's probably not uncommon.
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TOOT BOOT posted:Head Like A Hole was my primary entry point into the genre, and that's probably not uncommon. Can't remember if mine was NIN or MInistry but yeah.
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Jul 21, 2023 06:59
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I find it really weird that the lists focussing on industrial rock/metal (or your term of choice that includes glowing commentary about Rammstein, Fear Factory etc) consistently either don't include Die Krupps or if they do then it's the very early stuff before they brought in guitars. Die Krupps' guitary albums absolutely gently caress tho, they got some MTV rotation back in the day with To The Hilt so it's not like people whose entire knowledge is based on music videos from the 90s aren't going to know about them. If you're writing a list that's evidently aimed at/written by people into the more guitary end of things, then they'd seem like an obvious one to put in.
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Jul 21, 2023 08:23
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MassRafTer posted:I don't think I have ever seen someone call FLAvour of the Weak a great album. I like FLAvour of the Weak well enough but I kinda consider it a package deal with Re-Wind which brings it up to great album level
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Jul 21, 2023 10:10
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I think finding an actual industrial metal and not a coldwave or industrial rock band was my white whale in my early 20's. I think the only thing I ever found was Red Harvest.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:I find it really weird that the lists focussing on industrial rock/metal (or your term of choice that includes glowing commentary about Rammstein, Fear Factory etc) consistently either don't include Die Krupps or if they do then it's the very early stuff before they brought in guitars. Yeah, including Stahlwerksymphonie instead of any of the stuff people actually know and like and had influence on other bands is really weird. They also never acknowledge bands like OOMPH! and Megaherz who were very influential in the NDH scene before Rammstein was even formed It’s like there’s a master list of ”most obvious industrial acts/albums/songs” somewhere that these people just put in a random order for these lists
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Jul 21, 2023 11:19
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Feels good to buy a record from wax trax in the year of our lord 2023.
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a cyborg mug posted:Yeah, including Stahlwerksymphonie instead of any of the stuff people actually know and like and had influence on other bands is really weird. They also never acknowledge bands like OOMPH! and Megaherz who were very influential in the NDH scene before Rammstein was even formed  Die Krupps has some of the best range of electro-industrial acts, covering almost all the main bases well over their history. It's wild that they're still putting stuff out, even if a lot of it is just covers of 80s songs lately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3a2_xz9fI And I love to see appreciation for Megaherz and OOMPH! The latter being my preferred NDH band being a hipster. I forget if we posted their Dero-less new single yet, which is surprisingly alright. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NODU53LjaqY Kaddish posted:Feels good to buy a record from wax trax in the year of our lord 2023. Fun to get the branded cardboard sleeve and a bunch of stickers. Wax Trax continues to be great.
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Jehde posted:
Saw them live back in 2017 then again in 2018 and they went so hard, it was great.
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Dragula too low on that list imho. (All irony aside though I love Dragula) Rod Hoofhearted posted:Even by that standard, the list is a failure. Neither of these picks being Ultra is actually annoying me, though.
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Jul 21, 2023 17:17
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Shoehead posted:Neither of these picks being Ultra is actually annoying me, though. If they’re going for “notable” songs I would say Godlike
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Jehde posted:And I love to see appreciation for Megaherz and OOMPH! The latter being my preferred NDH band being a hipster. I forget if we posted their Dero-less new single yet, which is surprisingly alright. OOMPH! was my top 3 favorite band alongside Kraftwerk and Laibach for a really long time! I’m a big big fan of this track and I’m really hyped for the new album. The last few OOMPH! albums with Dero were just missing something, and this is by far their best single in like 10 years, so I’m very hopeful. I didn’t anticipate the new singer being Der Schulz but the moment he was announced, I went ”of loving course”. He’s the OBVIOUS best option for the role, like they said themselves. Excellent singer with tons of charisma
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Jul 21, 2023 18:06
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Shoehead posted:Neither of these picks being Ultra is actually annoying me, though. There’s at least ten tracks that make more sense than Megalomaniac, and half of them are from Nihil. And I like Symbols. I remember there was a lot of hate for it when it came out.
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david_a posted:If they’re going for “notable” songs I would say Godlike or that one that was the theme music for yo! mtv sports
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Juke Joint Jezebel was on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack and probably introduced a ton of people to KMFDM.
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what genre is mindless self indulgence? what is johnny urine, animal, vegetable or industrial?
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The Voice of Labor posted:what is johnny urine, Canceled. For grooming and sex crimes.
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goddamnit Why do all these guys have to be weirdos I swear if one of the big old school industrial names turns out to be one of these guys I’ll… well I’ll be sad I guess. Al and Trent got up to some poo poo in their substance abuse days; I really hope it wasn’t anything super bad.
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The Voice of Labor posted:what genre is mindless self indulgence? what is johnny urine, animal, vegetable or industrial? Dogshit / dogshit.
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The Jimmy Urine thing feels like it flew under the radar, I had never heard of it until yesterday's post. Can't say I'm super shocked, though. My wife hadn't heard of it either and she said his social media accounts just kinda went inactive a while back.
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for a while my Spotify mixes were constantly trying to get me to listen to that godawful song he did with Grimes under the moniker "Euringer," which got me to look up who he was, as I have long completely and willfully ignored MSI on aesthetics alone, and that's when I learned he was a huge loving creep. Speaking of Grimes, the new Poppy singles have some interesting industrial-adjacent sounds, looking forward to the new album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvDd8XnECEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3L1fBPo54 I enjoyed her delve into chunky guitars a few years ago but this sounds better to me.
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MSI was the first band I saw live and I've seen them three times now. Sorry not sorry.
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I really enjoyed Poppy's cover of Gary Numan's Metal. https://youtube.com/watch?v=7PbZKEE6DwU
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Bayham Badger posted:for a while my Spotify mixes were constantly trying to get me to listen to that godawful song he did with Grimes under the moniker "Euringer," which got me to look up who he was, as I have long completely and willfully ignored MSI on aesthetics alone, and that's when I learned he was a huge loving creep. I really liked her second album that felt like she was speed running an electro-industrial band going industrial metal by the end of it, but I didn't like her doubling down on that part after.
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I heard something about it on Tumblr, but it was tumblr and vague as gently caress so I just kind of assumed it was one of the old guard on there looking at lyrics and hitting the roof. Because... well there are a lot of lyrics
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I only have Poppy's "I Disagree" album but I really really like it, whether it's the archpop hooks like the end of Concrete or the deathcore riffs. 100 Gecs get a lot of flack for being "ADHD music" and IMO Poppy is the epitome of that: if I don't know what I want to listen to then I'll often put on I Disagree as there is so much variety without feeling disjointed at all. That FM percussion in BLOODMONEY is industrial as gently caress and (very very sadly) in keeping with the page topic the co-producer of that record and the preceding ones is a massive piece of poo poo. Thankfully she's no longer working with him.
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Love all of her more electronic stuff, but the track Meat is such a standout. Lyrics that go as dark as anything in the industrial scene and it sounds great in a club. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUbYgDAK0FY Those new tracks are pretty killer too tho for sure.
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