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I got some real heavy use out of my inreach by sending location/status updates to my family while in canada last month.
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Beeftweeter posted:as long as they don't still charge you for it i don't see a problem with this. a similar thing happened when i canceled the paramount+ free trial and i've enjoyed it as a free service
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fart simpson posted:is this true? im going to test it right now i think if they get one that traces to the middle of a city or whatever they probably just call the number registered to the beacon and ask if they're okay first but i mean, if they can't confirm the thing is a false alarm they will (and afaik must by international treaty) absolutely send rescue crews
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plb's (EPIRBs are for the ocean, PLBs are land - same tech though) are also available on the jeffsite and the vibe is quite different yeah you get exactly one button and it's got a safety on it Also all these things beep out is a hex ID - you need to make sure it's registered with the coast guard or space force or whoever the gently caress keeps the DB current
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Shame Boy posted:i think if they get one that traces to the middle of a city or whatever they probably just call the number registered to the beacon and ask if they're okay first but i mean, if they can't confirm the thing is a false alarm they will (and afaik must by international treaty) absolutely send rescue crews they’re air lifting me to jail right now as we speak
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Jonny 290 posted:plb's (EPIRBs are for the ocean, PLBs are land - same tech though) are also available on the jeffsite and the vibe is quite different yeah well an ID and more importantly your GPS coordinates but yeah "not keeping your PLB records up to date" is a problem that comes up in NTSB reports now and then. also in the US the database is apparently run by NOAA for some reason
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fart simpson posted:they’re air lifting me to jail right now as we speak congrats on the free helicopter ride
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Shame Boy posted:also in the US the database is apparently run by NOAA for some reason
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The Fool posted:I got some real heavy use out of my inreach by sending location/status updates to my family while in canada last month. yea i got an inreach and as long as you arent under super dense tree cover it rocks
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I do miss Iridum flares. since the previous generation of Iridium birds had a huge antenna the size of a refrigerator door, polished to a shine, and they set the spin of the satellite to exactly match the orbital period so the antenna always pointed towards Earth, you had big mirrors on a known orbit. So you could pull up a web site and it'd do the math for the exact times that one of them would bounce sunlight to a particular spot on earth, and if you looked up you'd see a bright flash for a few seconds, easy without a telescope or anything. i believe the current generation doesn't have the big mirror-ey antennas tho
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If I only register with the space force will they send a rocket to rescue me
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Chris Knight posted:they got the sats? the satellites are international, but the US ones are mostly just payloads riding along on the GPS satellites, which are run by the DoD i think it's just cuz it's a system that gets more use from ships in distress than anything else so might as well give it to The Ocean And Weather Guys Jonny 290 posted:I do miss Iridum flares. since the previous generation of Iridium birds had a huge antenna the size of a refrigerator door, polished to a shine, and they set the spin of the satellite to exactly match the orbital period so the antenna always pointed towards Earth, you had big mirrors on a known orbit. So you could pull up a web site and it'd do the math for the exact times that one of them would bounce sunlight to a particular spot on earth, and if you looked up you'd see a bright flash for a few seconds, easy without a telescope or anything. i believe the current generation doesn't have the big mirror-ey antennas tho i managed to catch exactly one once and it was real neat 
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Achmed Jones posted:"give us $20 when we get you out" lol. lmao
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post hole digger posted:lol. lmao i think they should sell satellite insurance with a $20 copay, $1000 deductible, and 90% coverage coinsurance with a sticker price of at least $10,000
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supposedly they cant balance bill you for helicopter evac in california anymore (in theory) but idk how thatd work for a backcountry rescue 
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i buy backcountry rescue insurance through aac on top of what garmin provides because im afraid of getting owned again by emergency services.
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what if one of the guys on the helicopter isn’t part of your plan’s evacuation provider network?
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are there any cases yet of people being found by search and rescue in the wilderness, and then refusing to be rescued because 'too expensive, id have to work all my life to pay it off. better to just let me die here'
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fart simpson posted:what if one of the guys on the helicopter isn’t part of your plan’s evacuation provider network? he gets to take anything he wants from your backpack on the way to the hospital.
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EricBauman posted:are there any cases yet of people being found by search and rescue in the wilderness, and then refusing to be rescued because 'too expensive, id have to work all my life to pay it off. better to just let me die here' probably not?
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Being a stupid shithole like the United States is, the breakdown is that feds don't charge individuals for that reason. State and local level it varies. Some of them use the fees as a slap for Stupid poo pooquote:Laws in other states are more specific. To curb wayward skiers, Vermont and Colorado can bill anyone found trespassing in out-of-bounds ski areas. In Idaho, hikers rescued in areas posted as closed to the public can be charged. In California, rescue missions costing more than $100 can be billed to the individual’s county of residence.
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Jonny 290 posted:Being a stupid shithole like the United States is, the breakdown is that feds don't charge individuals for that reason. State and local level it varies. Some of them use the fees as a slap for Stupid poo poo yeah, on top of some states requiring you pay for the costs of your evac, theres also been a growing debate around whether or not people should be fined for requesting a backcountry evac if they are determined to have been 'negligent' and put themselves in a bad situation that requires S&R. i've read both sides of the argument and i'm not exactly sure how I feel about it. some states do this already, i think
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post hole digger posted:yeah theres also been a growing debate around whether or not people should be fined for requesting a backcountry evac if they are determined to have been 'negligent' and put themselves in a bad situation that requires S&R. i've read both sides of the argument and i'm not exactly sure how I feel about it. some states do this already, i think having lived near the mccandless bus for 20 years and seeing the constant flow of idiots having to be rescued from their "pilgrimage" I know what my knee-jerk reaction about the subject is
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funniest rescue story this guy in the local ham prepper clique told his story about why he got into ham radio he was at a 'range' (aka a valley) up in the mountains shootin guns with his son. his kid ND'd a .45 into his thigh, there was no cell service, but there was another dude shooting there who had a ham radio and could summon help. and he decided 'this is useful!' lol
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Jonny 290 posted:I do miss Iridum flares. those things have ruined a lot of night photos for me (well maybe they were starlink, idk. still sucks rear end)
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e.g. gently caress shiny space junk
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yeah theyre not really comparable. there are 66 iridium birds in orbit and 4,500 starlink
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Beeftweeter posted:e.g. is that a plane though? it's got flashing lights gently caress the planes too though
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Eeyo posted:is that a plane though? it's got flashing lights i guess it could be idk. i just picked the first one i remembered since i don't generally save those photos unless they can be salvaged, and even then i don't usually keep the original
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post hole digger posted:yeah, on top of some states requiring you pay for the costs of your evac, theres also been a growing debate around whether or not people should be fined for requesting a backcountry evac if they are determined to have been 'negligent' and put themselves in a bad situation that requires S&R. i've read both sides of the argument and i'm not exactly sure how I feel about it. some states do this already, i think isn’t it always your own fault though? im not needing search and rescue around here
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Beeftweeter posted:those things have ruined a lot of night photos for me (well maybe they were starlink, idk. still sucks rear end) yeah iridium had/has very few satellites compared to starlink and the flashes were highly directional so like, you probably never caught one by accident, and if you did it would be MUCH brighter than a line
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post hole digger posted:getting owned again gonna need a story on this one
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like this is an iridium flash:  note how it's basically invisible until right when it comes into the right alignment, cuz they're way up in like MEO
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Achmed Jones posted:gonna need a story on this one I wish it was a cooler story, that wasn't a backcountry rescue just an emergency services in general incident: like 2 years ago, I got hit by a car on my bike like 2 blocks from my house and spent ages dealing with american medical response (the ambulance co) who were true bastards about everything every step of the way. it turns out that ambulance services are like the main thing that are still allowed to balance bill you whatever they want.
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Shame Boy posted:like this is an iridium flash: oh yeah i've caught those once or twice. and you're all right, it's way less frequent than the starlink bullshit, which usually manifests as a streak
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Beeftweeter posted:oh yeah i've caught those once or twice. and you're all right, it's way less frequent than the starlink bullshit, which usually manifests as a streak you’ve heard of trump steaks now get ready for musk streaks
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fart simpson posted:you’ve heard of trump steaks now get ready for musk streaks i think that's what they call the clean-up when someone gets flattened by a tesla using fsd
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fart simpson posted:you’ve heard of trump steaks now get ready for musk streaks gross and gross
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post hole digger posted:I wish it was a cooler story, that wasn't a backcountry rescue just an emergency services in general incident: like 2 years ago, I got hit by a car on my bike like 2 blocks from my house and spent ages dealing with american medical response (the ambulance co) who were true bastards about everything every step of the way. it turns out that ambulance services are like the main thing that are still allowed to balance bill you whatever they want. aw man i was hoping you punched a bear. sorry you had to deal with that, phd
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Shame Boy posted:i think if they get one that traces to the middle of a city or whatever they probably just call the number registered to the beacon and ask if they're okay first but i mean, if they can't confirm the thing is a false alarm they will (and afaik must by international treaty) absolutely send rescue crews quote:Registration is Key
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