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fermun
Nov 4, 2009

Eeyo posted:

lmao what, do they have to use pink or blue rays or something?

they can set the scanner to look at an individual as a man or as a woman. according to the models they're comparing it to, a man shouldn't have breasts and a woman shouldn't have a penis, so trans women either get tagged as men and get their boobs groped or tagged as women and get their crotch groped.

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Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
well maybe the millimeter wave scanners make you a little gayer each time or something. might be good

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

git apologist posted:

i have status on air nz too so every flight i get access to the lounge and free seat select and preferential boarding. it’s very good. i guess this probably contributes to my enjoyment overall? no, it’s the goons who are wrong :shepface:

my partner used to get koru with work and i’d go as +1 and it rules, it’s comfy, and of course they have beer

but her corpo has tightened up so no more koru :cry:

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

drat these millimeter wave scanners sound dumb as poo poo

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Beeftweeter posted:

well maybe the millimeter wave scanners make you a little gayer each time or something. might be good

maybe if you live in some kind of comic universe rays give you super powers

in real life they either ionize your poo poo or do nothing

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bob dobbs is dead posted:

never gotten patted down in my life

george clooney in up in the air ( the screenwriter really, lol) was kinda racist about asians bein the best to get in the security line w but he wasnt wrong

when I went to the US in 07 I was on a flight a week earlier than my wife and when I landed they pulled me aside and questioned the hell out of me

it might have been terrifying but I’d taken 3 lorazepam on the flight lol. i’d never take one before and as soon as the first tablet hit me I thought why not take more. I was in such a state of anti anxiety even the big american customs or whoever it was in their black uniforms didn’t scare me

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


fermun posted:

they can set the scanner to look at an individual as a man or as a woman. according to the models they're comparing it to, a man shouldn't have breasts and a woman shouldn't have a penis, so trans women either get tagged as men and get their boobs groped or tagged as women and get their crotch groped.

yeah this is basically it, got my dick fondled *a lot*

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

oh is the problem that they don't want the agents looking at your body so it has to do image recognition?

jfc they should just get rid of those things then, there's no way they actually do anything.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the tsa is a total failure at everything and of a part w george bush's worthless legacy yes

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Eeyo posted:

drat these millimeter wave scanners sound dumb as poo poo

yeah every single transperson in the US just kinda has to put up with getting groped because the scanners not only will flag them but specifically flag "suspicious thing specifically in the crotchular area" so they have to specifically grope the crotchular area.

also a cis friend of mine with a real big dong triggers it all the time for similar reasons cuz it's referenced against the NIST standard calibration dong and i think that's real funny

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
go back to the anti-bomb dowsing rod imo

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Shame Boy posted:

yeah every single transperson in the US just kinda has to put up with getting groped because the scanners not only will flag them but specifically flag "suspicious thing specifically in the crotchular area" so they have to specifically grope the crotchular area.

also a cis friend of mine with a real big dong triggers it all the time for similar reasons cuz it's referenced against the NIST standard calibration dong and i think that's real funny

UNEXPECTED HOG

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Shame Boy posted:

NIST standard calibration dong

mods pls

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
i have two trans women sisters and they say that if you take a red eye flight a lot of times the security lines aren't very rushed and they can ask the tsa agent to set their scan as a man so that they just get their boobs fondled instead of their dick grabbed but that is also a very depressing thing to have to do to ask some official to deny your gender for a less intense invasive fondling

mystes
May 31, 2006

Eeyo posted:

oh is the problem that they don't want the agents looking at your body so it has to do image recognition?

jfc they should just get rid of those things then, there's no way they actually do anything.
Yeah the X-ray backscatter machines and maybe the original millimeter wave machines actually displayed images but because of privacy concerns they don't output those anymore and instead have a computer process it and just display x marks on a generic diagram of the body.

The actual direct output isn't like normal photographs though, I think it's more like a very low resolution 3d model of your body without clothes but including any objects outside the skin that are opaque to the millimeter waves, so while I guess it involves possibly incorrect assumptions about what bodies should be shaped with, it's probably not totally impossible for a computer to do it most of the time.

Usually it will just flag like one area which needs to be patted down so if they can get it to stop flagging people's crotches that will fix most of it being really invasive (well if you have certain medical equipment they'll probably give you a full body patdown every time which would suck)

However based on the way it works it seems like it might potentially be completely useless against someone who actually knows enough about how it works anyway?

mystes fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Sep 24, 2023

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

i wanna say my wife got flagged for a suspicious crotch when she flew at like 6 months pregnant or whatever. i'll have to tell her about this, it will all make sense now.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

i think the nist calibration dong is a monolithic silicon crystal shaped into a dildo, kept under two layers of bell jars to avoid atmospheric contamination and degradation.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
damnit i wanna know why i keep getting patted down lol

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
they heard you was tweetin' beef

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

Beeftweeter posted:

damnit i wanna know why i keep getting patted down lol

because of your association with shady characters on the internet

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Shame Boy posted:

they ran the bomb swabber on my stuff in rochester a few times

one time they swabbed a box of nutrigrain bars in my bag and it popped, said 'are you loving kidding me' and got SIR PLEASE CALM DOWN'd and escorted to the Back Room business

it's such an absolute loving joke thanks george

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Eeyo posted:

i think the nist calibration dong is a monolithic silicon crystal shaped into a dildo, kept under two layers of bell jars to avoid atmospheric contamination and degradation.

it eez a pity le glass cock is sublimating even in our deepest parisian vaults but zen again aren't we all?

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

Eeyo posted:

i think the nist calibration dong is a monolithic silicon crystal shaped into a dildo, kept under two layers of bell jars to avoid atmospheric contamination and degradation.

i can't believe nist metrologists are satisfied with a physical standard for dongs

if you can't define a dong in terms of universal constants what's even the point of having a dong

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Internet Janitor posted:

i can't believe nist metrologists are satisfied with a physical standard for dongs

if you can't define a dong in terms of universal constants what's even the point of having a dong

That's why I always measure my dong in terms of Planck length.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



Soylent Pudding posted:

That's why I always measure my dong in terms of Planck length.

well at least you chose an appropriate scale

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

graph posted:

one time they swabbed a box of nutrigrain bars in my bag and it popped, said 'are you loving kidding me' and got SIR PLEASE CALM DOWN'd and escorted to the Back Room business

it's such an absolute loving joke thanks george

i once had a pack of razor blades and a corkscrew in my bag that i had forgotten about, and tsa let those through and flagged my box of pocky because “it looks like needles” great job guys

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

fart simpson posted:

i once had a pack of razor blades and a corkscrew in my bag that i had forgotten about, and tsa let those through and flagged my box of pocky because “it looks like needles” great job guys

people could have been doing serious damage to their health by injecting that pocky. mess u up

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

this reminds me of the time the new zealand customs minister said that 3d printers represented a critical threat to border enforcement, because instead of trying to smuggle drugs from abroad, people would just print them right in their homes

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


you wouldn't download a carfentanil

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sagebrush posted:

this reminds me of the time the new zealand customs minister said that 3d printers represented a critical threat to border enforcement, because instead of trying to smuggle drugs from abroad, people would just print them right in their homes

somebody read diamond age and didn't realize it was fiction

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

i'd think that would make border enforcement easier cuz then they wouldn't have to bother with people trying to smuggle drugs

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
in that respect they would represent a critical threat to border enforcement's funding

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

moms bought me a real nice keepsake boomerang from our favorite vineyard during the week we toured napa/sonoma and tsa made me loving throw it out at the gate and i will never forgive them

Gnossiennes
Jan 7, 2013


Loving chairs more every day!

Sagebrush posted:

this reminds me of the time the new zealand customs minister said that 3d printers represented a critical threat to border enforcement, because instead of trying to smuggle drugs from abroad, people would just print them right in their homes

i loving wish

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

how do you open a wine bottle with a boomerang, california is so weird

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Jabor posted:

in that respect they would represent a critical threat to border enforcement's funding

see, you get the military industrial prison complex

:capitalism:

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


graph posted:

moms bought me a real nice keepsake boomerang from our favorite vineyard during the week we toured napa/sonoma and tsa made me loving throw it out at the gate and i will never forgive them



look I've seen Suicides Squad, those things are dangerous!

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


graph posted:

moms bought me a real nice keepsake boomerang from our favorite vineyard during the week we toured napa/sonoma and tsa made me loving throw it out at the gate and i will never forgive them

must have been faulty anyway

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raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice
the one time i got swabbed for explosives it popped positive for some reason and the tsa guy’s response to the machine dinging or whatever it did was to say “bummer!” in a stoner-rear end voice because he knew it was a false positive. he still had to do the ball-fondling song and dance but I’m white so it was “obvious security theater” instead of “law enforcement fucks with someone for fun”

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