rotor posted:

SF proper still has insanely lovely broadband anywhere that fiber hasnt gotten to

Sagebrush posted:

don't forget it's also the insane hippie NIMBY capital of the world where they think the roadside fiber boxes are giving them cancer

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

what counts as "fibre" in the US? The UK definition is iirc a hazy "fibre to the cabinet" Vs "fibre to the home" which come in as "fibre" and "full fibre" in the marketing much like breakfast cereal.

I was genuinely getting 8mbps in 2019 in central London because of having an ancient copper connection direct to the exchange instead of the local cabinet. It even had an ancient pill style termination point on it which dated back to the 80s. it suuuuuucked.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

what counts as "fibre" in the US? The UK definition is iirc a hazy "fibre to the cabinet" Vs "fibre to the home" which come in as "fibre" and "full fibre" in the marketing much like breakfast cereal.

I was genuinely getting 8mbps in 2019 in central London because of having an ancient copper connection direct to the exchange instead of the local cabinet. It even had an ancient pill style termination point on it which dated back to the 80s. it suuuuuucked.

https://icrowdnewswire.com/2024/01/...of-its-network/ posted:

New York, NY – January 31, 2024 – A panel of the National Advertising Review Board (NARB), the appellate advertising body of BBB National Programs, recommended that Comcast Cable Communications, LLC discontinue use of the term 10G in the product service name “Xfinity 10G Network” and when 10G is used descriptively to describe the Xfinity network.

The advertising at issue had been challenged by Verizon Communications Inc. Following the National Advertising Division’s (NAD) decision (Case No. 7213), Comcast appealed NAD’s finding that 10G as used by the advertiser communicates express messages that are unsubstantiated.

In agreement with NAD, the NARB panel determined that Comcast should discontinue use of the term 10G, both when used in the name of the service itself (“Xfinity 10G Network”) as well as when used to describe the Xfinity network. The use of 10G in a manner that is not false or misleading and is consistent with the panel decision is not precluded by the panel recommendations.

[…]

Initially, Comcast stated that it was unable to comply with NARB’s recommendations because the issues on appeal were the subject of a separate NARB appeal that was pending following NAD’s decision in a similar (but not identical) advertising challenge brought by T-Mobile US, Inc. (Case No. 7212). That appeal (NARB Panel 325) was subsequently decided.

Thereafter, Comcast stated that “although it strongly disagrees with NARB’s analysis and approach,” Comcast will modify its advertising to comply with the panel recommendations as set forth in the decision in Panel 325.

shackleford posted:

in america AT&T will gladly sell you a fiber connection that uses fiber somewhere inside their network, and comcast will gladly sell you a 10G connection that... apparently the G doesn't stand for anything.

and the only thing anyone can do about is (checks notes) file a complaint with the National Advertising Review Board

this is apparently a completely private sector thing that these large american telcos/cablecos nevertheless afford more deference to than the decisions of actual regulators

Jonny 290 posted:

if you're not plugging glass into something inside your house its not fiber

Jonny 290 posted:

i dont get it

rotor posted:

hes stickin it in his butt

shackleford posted:

i think at one point SF city supervisors were janitoring permits for individual boxes

rotor posted:

good, glad to hear they were doing something

https://stopthecap.com/2011/07/27/att-installs-first-of-495-u-verse-cabinets-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco/ posted:

AT&T anticipates taking at least two years to complete the project across the city, but claims it remains open to bypassing neighborhoods that simply refuse to accept its boxes. AT&T might not have a choice, considering the agreement they have with city officials.

Neighborhoods must be given time to provide input to city officials before permits are issued to AT&T. If a city supervisor in a particular district doesn’t like the boxes, the “memorandum of understanding” grants the politician ultimate veto power over AT&T’s permit requests. That means AT&T will be forced to do a lot of hand-holding public relations throughout the city to win support for their equipment.

shackleford posted:

yeah! lol

meanwhile comcast's fiber-to-the-node equipment and cable amps etc. are a good deal smaller but more numerous than AT&T's FTTC equipment and they can just polemount or strandmount it or just open the sidewalk up and chuck it in a mud hole

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

what counts as "fibre" in the US? The UK definition is iirc a hazy "fibre to the cabinet" Vs "fibre to the home" which come in as "fibre" and "full fibre" in the marketing much like breakfast cereal.

I was genuinely getting 8mbps in 2019 in central London because of having an ancient copper connection direct to the exchange instead of the local cabinet. It even had an ancient pill style termination point on it which dated back to the 80s. it suuuuuucked.

psiox posted:

does this count as funy tech poo poo? cable burn-in services for audio freaks!

https://www.nutsabouthifi.com/services/

Branch Nvidian posted:

we have fiber to the house where i live which is nice. meanwhile cox continues to try to sell their home internet service as "panoramic wifi" and have just completely replaced the word "internet" with "wifi" for everything involving home internet service

Sagebrush posted:

i remember going to communist romania in the late 00s and seeing a billboard ad for a cell phone plan. it was roughly equivalent to what you'd get in the $120/mo highest end iphone plans at the time -- 1500 anytime minutes, no roaming, unlimited texts, 5 gigabytes of data, etc.

it was 5 euros a month and advertised as a starter plan for teenagers

outhole surfer posted:

didn't romania stop being communist in the 80s?

outhole surfer posted:

didn't romania stop being communist in the 80s?

Zamujasa posted:

sms messages costing 25 cents each

Jonny 290 posted:

in 96 i had a job at the racetrack

rotor posted:

cars, horses or dogs?

outhole surfer posted:

my folks owned a towing company, so we had some form of cell phone from the early 90s on. a motorola bag phone that never got used, plus car phones in each of our cars/trucks. this was in hilly eastern kentucky, so we kept those truck phones until they shut down the amps network, because all the small digital phones would lose service out in the hollers

quote:

In the deep, dark hills of eastern Kentucky
That's the place where I trace my bloodline
And it's there I read on a hillside gravestone
"You will never leave Harlan alive"

Roosevelt posted:

rotor posted:

cars, horses or dogs?