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Intruder posted:I'm talking about fixing games though. Even paying off the ump seems like a somewhat high risk prospect since you have to pay them enough to risk a high paying job with extremely high job security when it's so easy for random poo poo to ruin your entire wager With prop bets it becomes so much harder to look for variance though. If you can influence a pitcher (or catcher, or pitching coach, or manager) to throw a particular pitch on the first pitch of an AB, you can influence a prop bet, and no one would think it was weird that the first pitch of an AB was a normal pitch the pitcher throws.
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Apr 2, 2024 21:27
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We had MLB giving Judge and Pujols juiced balls 2 years ago to chase home run records and hardly anyone talks about it.
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Sydin posted:Sure but doesn't baseball also have a lot more little microbets? Like I'm pretty sure you can put bets on a particular AB's outcome, and that's definitely something an umpire could have a massively outsized influence on. Yeah it's these kinds of bets that are the big problem, and that article is about how the NCAA wants to ban prop bets specifically. It's how they caught Jontay Porter, he was an end-of-bench guy who was getting more action than superstars.
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That judge thing was a travesty Oh well I’m happy the Yankees fans had something to feel good about for once
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Popete posted:We had MLB giving Judge and Pujols juiced balls 2 years ago to chase home run records and hardly anyone talks about it. Cause cheating for cool poo poo to happen is fine, cheating for gambling is not Cheating saved baseball after the strike! We should all praise those who go above and beyond the rules to make good things happen
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Apr 2, 2024 21:29
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Popete posted:We had MLB giving Judge and Pujols juiced balls 2 years ago to chase home run records and hardly anyone talks about it. Yeah the league itself is already blatantly putting its thumb on the scale to chase ratings and nobody cares, sports betting is here to stay and will survive even a major Black Sox level scandal barring some kind of huge grassroots moral outrage campaign because it is an insane money machine for the 1%.
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Ya no doubt there is going to be a major betting scandal that blows up in any of the major sports league. It's an inevitable. The temptation is just way to strong and the money swirling around is insane. Someones going to try.
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They want to put iPads at everyone’s seat in the stadium so they can make live exclusive in game bets. Imagine how that will go over
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Sydin posted:Yeah the league itself is already blatantly putting its thumb on the scale to chase ratings and nobody cares, sports betting is here to stay and will survive even a major Black Sox level scandal barring some kind of huge grassroots moral outrage campaign because it is an insane money machine for the 1%. It might survive a moral outrage but I'm willing to bet if for no other reason than appearances congress would put their foot down after any public scandal
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Not sure if this is a hot take but I hate the whole home run celebration props thing. I thought the home run chain the O's had a few seasons ago was kinda cool, the 'home run hose' was like okay at least they're getting some water i bet they're thirsty, now they have the "home run handlebars" where they have a set of motorcycle handlebars and vroom vroom around the dugout and it's just so lame. I think the more elaborate the prop is and the more forced it seems the worse it is.
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I wonder why sports gambling was banned before . Huh. Oh well better not think about that
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explosivo posted:Not sure if this is a hot take but I hate the whole home run celebration props thing. I thought the home run chain the O's had a few seasons ago was kinda cool, the 'home run hose' was like okay at least they're getting some water i bet they're thirsty, now they have the "home run handlebars" where they have a set of motorcycle handlebars and vroom vroom around the dugout and it's just so lame. I think the more elaborate the prop is and the more forced it seems the worse it is. strongly disagree
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Intruder posted:It might survive a moral outrage but I'm willing to bet if for no other reason than appearances congress would put their foot down after any public scandal DraftKings has you covered
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I saw all these new posts and I thought "well drat, Euphronious musta said something dumb"
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Like here are some props from today's Jays/ Astros game  You don't think an ump could affect the O/U on strikeouts? Or some clubhouse guy taking the U on all those Yanier props because he has inside info that Diaz is going to be off that day? Too easy to do and the stakes are insanely high.
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explosivo posted:Not sure if this is a hot take but I hate the whole home run celebration props thing. I thought the home run chain the O's had a few seasons ago was kinda cool, the 'home run hose' was like okay at least they're getting some water i bet they're thirsty, now they have the "home run handlebars" where they have a set of motorcycle handlebars and vroom vroom around the dugout and it's just so lame. I think the more elaborate the prop is and the more forced it seems the worse it is. I don't mind them. It's fun. I rather have that then the completely depressed bench that the Jays currently have. They get a homerun and they do a couple of high fives in the dug out and then everyone is back to depression and despair. I miss the Jays homerun jacket. Not a surprise that once they got rid of it the team got worse.
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The one nice thing about baseball is it’s on almost every night and the bad feelings from last night don’t linger .
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Intruder posted:Cause cheating for cool poo poo to happen is fine, cheating for gambling is not Astros winning the WS was not cool though. e: euphronius posted:The one nice thing about baseball is it’s on almost every night and the bad feelings from last night don’t linger . They linger if youre, say, an As or Jays fan. 
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zoux posted:Like here are some props from today's Jays/ Astros game Yeah stuff like this is insane but also kinda necessary to prop up the fantasy betting app paradigm that's trying to constantly tempt you at all times to make one more bet or add one more prop to your parlay. If all you could do was bet on game outcomes a huge addictive, instant feedback aspect of the scheme would fall apart.
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Furnaceface posted:Astros winning the WS was not cool though.  Sydin posted:Yeah stuff like this is insane but also kinda necessary to prop up the fantasy betting app paradigm that's trying to constantly tempt you at all times to make one more bet or add one more prop to your parlay. If all you could do was bet on game outcomes a huge addictive, instant feedback aspect of the scheme would fall apart. another reason to have high salaries for players/umps, make it much harder to bribe them who's going to risk their job for a few grand when they make 150K (umps) or millions (players)? Obviously there'll be cases with complete degenerates who do it for the love of the hustle like Ohtani though Intruder fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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I know gambling addiction is way more complex than this but, personally, I have no idea how people do sports betting outside of extremely specific stuff like horse racing where the whole point is to go somewhere and bet. I'm already a nervous goddamn wreck watching the Cubs when I don't have money on the line, if I also stood to lose money because Yencey Almonte got put in during garbage time and might ruin my O/U for K's I'd burst a blood vessel before week 3.
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I get stressed by the fake money TFF funbux bets
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The Texas approach to sports betting clearly works because I've never been able to figure out where to even start I assume I go to an Oklahoma casino or something, I dunno. Too lazy and too stupid to ruin myself in a new way
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Sydin posted:I know gambling addiction is way more complex than this but, personally, I have no idea how people do sports betting outside of extremely specific stuff like horse racing where the whole point is to go somewhere and bet. I'm already a nervous goddamn wreck watching the Cubs when I don't have money on the line, if I also stood to lose money because Yencey Almonte got put in during garbage time and might ruin my O/U for K's I'd burst a blood vessel before week 3. You bet on non Cub games so you get similar anxieties but while watching some garbage game you would never give a poo poo about.
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The guy who bet $20K to win $800 in a 3 way parlay because it was free money and lost because Virginia became the first #1 team to ever lose to a #16 was plenty to make sure I'd never do any serious sports gambling. Ok I'll bet my buddy 5 bucks on the outcome of a game or something, fine
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Popete posted:We had MLB giving Judge and Pujols juiced balls 2 years ago to chase home run records and hardly anyone talks about it. Banishing Roger Maris' son was important enough that we all chose to not acknowledge it.
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Hand Row posted:You bet on non Cub games so you get similar anxieties but while watching some garbage game you would never give a poo poo about. Becoming a millionaire by just betting the under on the A's over and over and over.
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Gerblederp posted:Anyone who thinks windchill isn’t real has clearly never worked outside where it actually gets cold I am from Florida and I went to a night game at Wrigley in September a year or two ago and ended up buying both gloves and those chemical hand warmers because by the 3rd I couldn’t feel my hands
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Sydin posted:Yeah stuff like this is insane but also kinda necessary to prop up the fantasy betting app paradigm that's trying to constantly tempt you at all times to make one more bet or add one more prop to your parlay. If all you could do was bet on game outcomes a huge addictive, instant feedback aspect of the scheme would fall apart. I was curious so I installed the DraftKings app - the entire screen you see is nothing but long-shot parlays of prop bets. Like the very first thing it shows you is an 8-leg bet on a bunch of guys to get a base hit, and there’s another ten of them to scroll through with ad copy, and big banner ads at the top about prop parlays, and it’s just the most obvious way to suck money out of your pockets. (I usually use BetRivers if I am putting $5 on something and throwing MLB.TV up all evening.)
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Yeah the normal money line and point spread bets are gateway loss leaders* into extreme exploitation * I don’t know if they actually lose money.
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rickiep00h posted:Look at this dumbass that's never worn a stillsuit.
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Gerblederp posted:Anyone who thinks windchill isn’t real has clearly never worked outside where it actually gets cold I was not expecting this thread to blow up because someone declared wind as a lie of big weather.
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Not a lie of big weather, simply a non factor if you aren't nude
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euphronius posted:Yeah the normal money line and point spread bets are gateway loss leaders* into extreme exploitation They make at least the vigorish, because a pick-em line is -115 on both sides
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NBA refs have been on the take for decades and it's one of the reasons I've never been able to get into the NBA. Like probably refs in all major sports leagues are, they get paid too little in relation to the money in gambling, but something about the structure of rule enforcement in basketball makes it excruciatingly front-and-center in the NBA e: for one thing the entire concept of a foul-out is ridiculous and puts waaaaay too much game-controlling power in the hands of the refs
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Betting should be legal and has been around forever. Leagues getting in bed with betting is gross and ruining lives.
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Poque posted:Make it illegal to tell me about your stupid parlay
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