qirex posted:

people typically drive rental cars like they stole them, seems like that’s unwise in a car with full torque from a stop

Not a Children posted:

Never been in one but I didn't expect it to look so cheap

Jonny 290 posted:

youd really think hertz would have had tesla put 0-60 caps on them or something lol

Jonny 290 posted:

for comparison, heres the rear seats in an actual luxury car, 750iL

quote:

Q. Okay. So if I'm the first reader of this tweet, I wouldn't know if you saw something from Dr. Frensor or Matt Wallace or somebody else? I wouldn't know, would I?

MR. SPIRO: Objection to form. It's not a proper question.

A. I guess I decline to answer on advice of counsel.

MR. BANKSTON: Are you instructing him not to answer?

MR. SPIRO: No. I mean, if he understands the question, he can answer it. It's not a proper question -- (Internet interruption.)

MR. BANKSTON: Look, there's no need for the commentary about if questions are proper or if they're not. That's not necessary. You know it's not necessary. You know the only reason to do it would be to influence the witness.

So if you have an instruction not to answer, go ahead and give it. If you have an objection, go ahead and give it, but as far as commentary to the witness, it's not necessary.

MR. SPIRO: No, sir. It's not - I just told the witness he can answer. There's nothing about me commenting that all of these hypothetical what if I saw this, what if I saw that questions are not proper questions. I'm surprised you don't know they're not proper questions so --

MR. BANKSTON: Everything you're saying --

MR. SPIRO: Can I finish? I'm making my record. So the reason I'm making that comment is to sort of try to signal to you that if you ask nine out of 10 improper questions, eventually you're going to get an objection from me, and maybe just ask proper questions.

There's nothing about me saying that that changes what he's going to answer. That's not how witness coaching works. I'm surprised you don't know that.

So in any event, all I said was that's not a proper question. It's not a proper question. Any judge reviewing this will tell you it's not a proper question, and if he can answer, he can answer.

MR. BANKSTON: All right. Again, I'm going to ask you again to obey Rule 199.5 because nothing about what you're doing is proper and you know that.

So I'm going to ask him the question again --

MR. SPIRO: We disagree.

MR. BANKSTON: -- and if he can understand it, then he'll answer it, okay?

boethius posted:

sure but how many bullets can that take?

quote:

Q. (BY MR. BANKSTON) Okay. If you knew right now -- knowing right now Ben is really upset that this tweet is still up and that he wanted there to be a retraction, how do you feel about that?

MR. SPIRO: Objection to form. How you feel about it? How is that -- how you feel about it, how is that relevant --

MR. BANKSTON: Mr. Spiro --

MR. SPIRO: - now to the four deposition topics? We're on, I guess, topic four. We've addressed one through three. How is that relevant to four?

MR. BANKSTON: Because in Gonzalez vs. Hearst Corp., 930 S.W.2nd 275, a refusal to print a retraction is evidence of an action after the publication, but it can lend support to a claim that reckless disregard or knowledge existed at the time of publication.

Similarly, in New Times vs. Issacks, Texas Supreme Court 2004, 146 S.W.3rd 144, refusal to retract an exposed error tends to support a finding of actual malice, and conversely, a readiness to retract tends to negate actual malice.

So again, I'll pose my question --

MR. SPIRO: Yeah, I'll look at those cases but he's not answering that right now. I don't see the relevance. I don't think those cases -- I'm pretty confident those cases are not directly on point so I'll review the cases so we can respond further.

MR. BANKSTON: All right. Next time I'd appreciate it if you showed up in a deposition with a Texas lawyer who had an understanding of Texas law of actual malice.

MR. SPIRO: Okay. You keep filing these silly, frivolous shake-down cases, l'lI -- I'll keep trying to think of Texas lawyers to bring to your depositions.

MR. BANKSTON: Mr. Musk, I will tell you I'm trying to be as civil as I can in this deposition with you and your attorney. I'd appreciate it - these random, insulting, professionally demeaning really have no place here.

MR. SPIRO: You just did the same thing and I responded in kind, so keep moving with the deposition. You're running out of time.

MR. BANKSTON: You think that's what happened here.

MR. SPIRO: I know this is your big day in the sun. You're running out of time.

Cat Face Joe posted:

everything even slightly expensive in teslas was scrapped and/or sent to lowest bidder suppliers years ago

...! posted:

quote:

Q. Is there anyone with the authority to say about a piece of data at Twitter, to say to you, no, Mr. Musk, you can't have that or you can't share that with anyone?

MR. SPIRO: Objection to form. And, again, I'm going to ask again, what is the possible relevance of this to the single tweet that we're here on in a defamation case? Can you just explain that to me?

MR. BANKSTON: Sure. Because when he was confronted with -- again, this is kind of bizarre that I'm explaining this in front of your witness, but if he was confronted with information that made him maybe want to go suggest that, hey, maybe this college student was involved in this brawl, if he had access to people who were able to tell him or give him more data about this and he has that authority, I need to know what --

MR. SPIRO: You're saying that if he -- your point is that he had other avenues to investigate this?

MR. BANKSTON: That he deliberately ignored, correct.

MR. SPIRO: I think it's an objectionable question, but I'll let him answer it.

rotor posted:

im the plain exposed metal slides & mechanisms for the front seats

Jonny 290 posted:

youd really think hertz would have had tesla put 0-60 caps on them or something lol

Chris Knight posted:

I'm all in favour of regulations to limit EV acceleration

Jonny 290 posted:

youd really think hertz would have had tesla put 0-60 caps on them or something lol

quote:

Q. Okay. I want to ask you about another statement. I want to ask you about some statements that are quoted to you or attributed to you in Walter Issacson's book because I want to make sure that they're accurately attributed to you. And so I want to take a look at a couple of things that were said in Issacson's book. Can we bring up Tab W?

MR. SPIRO: Yeah, I'm -- again, I'm going to not allow this. This is -- how this has to do with state of mind on June 27th, 2023, I'm not going to allow this.

MR. BANKSTON: Mr. Spiro --

MR. WALTERS: Move on to another subject.

MR. BANKSTON: -- it's literally him describing his state of mind for how he approaches these tweets. I don't understand why this quote that we have here in front of us --

MR. SPIRO: Okay. You want to ask him if he said this?

MR. BANKSTON: Yes, that's all I'm asking. Yea, that's it. I mean, I'm not - it's about his state of mind in tweeting.

MR. SPIRO: Well, I'm not so sure. The state of mind cases, I don't know in every count in Texas, but typically do not allow things that happen nontemporarily.

MR. BANKSTON: I mean, I just quoted you the law that says that's not true and you can absolutely --

MR. SPIRO: Okay. Ask him the question.

MR. BANKSTON: Yeah, let's just go -

THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Excuse me. Mr. Musk just logged off or got kicked off or something. He's no longer on the Zoom.

MR. BANKSTON: Do you want to take a break real quick and see if we can get him back on?

MR. SPIRO: Yeah, Mark. That's fine.

MR. BANKSTON: I was going to take a break in an hour but I figured we can just take a break right now if you want to do that. Do you want to take 20 minutes?

MR. SPIRO: No. I mean, I don't think we need 20 minutes, Mark. I mean, we're almost done.

MR. BANKSTON: The problem is I'm not trying to be difficult here. I'm really not. The water main broke in our building today so to go use the restroom, I have to walk down the street.

MR. SPIRO: Well, okay. That's a real thing. We'll be back in 10. Hopefully you're back in 10. If you are back in 13, no one's going to be alarmed, but l'm going to try to make it a 10 minute break.

MR. BANKSTON: I understand. You don't need to keep communicating your feelings on the ridiculousness of the endeavor I'm currently engaged in.

MR. SPIRO: Well, it's also a short deposition so whether even needing a break is -- I don't know it's necessary but okay, let's do it. 10 minutes.

...! posted:

what a lawyer

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

are they still using off the shelf parts for other vehicles? i know there was a bunch of weird bmw parts like headrests for a time

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/wiring-genius-48v-power-data-can-bus.10254/ posted:

Instead, they're running gigabit ethernet cabling with a 48v power + data CAN bus to every component— all on the same cable.

Instead of running one wiring harness to the driver door speaker, and another to the driver's door window motor, they can daisy-chain them together on the same self-contained cable interface. Your computer could connect to your door handle using the *same* wire that's already been through your speaker, window, ambient lights, and steering wheel.

Each of those devices/components listen to the continuous stream of data for a command relevant to its operation.

Luigi Thirty posted:

deposition: musk admits to just reposting everything that confirms his views and he knows this is probably bad in the long run but doesn't care

elon today: the CIA stole alex jones' money and did jan 6

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1777740355158299104

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

*Elon thumps top of car making a hollow plastic sounding clunk* when this baby hits 1488 miles an hour I'm gonna tweet some stupid poo poo

this bit's great because it goes on to have banksman directly reference the whole twitter files thing as "so you're saying you don't have access to internal data e.g. like the stuff you got access to and published?"

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

that is literally his argument in the deposition btw

Jonny 290 posted:

for comparison, heres the rear seats in an actual luxury car, 750iL

Megabound posted:

Got nothin on the Toyota Century

mediaphage posted:

lmao drat they brought it back for $170k

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

that is literally his argument in the deposition btw

rotor posted:

idk why you'd buy a century

Sagebrush posted:

next step is "okay, so it wasn't true. But can you imagine if it was? The fact that it sounds so true to morons really makes you think."

rotor posted:

like from the drivers POV its a nice Camry