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I dont own a car and the nearest 'real' grocery store is a few miles away, so grocery delivery is a real nice convenience and if it breaks down life becomes a bit more difficult. I can still borrow a friend's cart and go get stuff, its just harder and mass transit, while it exists here, isnt great. My wife has mobility issues and would be absolutely hosed without delivery if I was incapacitated though
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Lambert posted:They got their own government bailout not from TARP funds. Ford had to be bailed out as well.
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Mar 26, 2020 03:26
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ratbert90 posted:I filed taxes for 2014 - 2018 in one go (the IRS owes me money). That was almost two years ago and I still haven’t received my refund. this is by design, the GOP wants the IRS to be completely powerless to investigate people who cheat on their taxes
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:this is by design, the GOP wants the IRS to be completely powerless to investigate people who cheat on their taxes No, just powerless against rich people. Poor people are easier and cheaper to audit so they will have the book thrown at them.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:No, just powerless against rich people. Poor people are easier and cheaper to audit so they will have the book thrown at them. Makes sense, since Charles Rettig was a tax attorney that representative well-to-do clients before the IRS.
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forkboy84 posted:Love to turn on Bloomberg for some background noise & the story they are talking about is someone throwing a hissy fit about their company's bond rating being downgraded to junk (Softbank in this case) softbank is a malevolent force in the world, so thats some good news at least
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ratbert90 posted:I filed taxes for 2014 - 2018 in one go (the IRS owes me money). That was almost two years ago and I still haven’t received my refund.
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I'd basically been inching towards left-wing authoritarianism for a couple years but the past month has put me there firmly.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'd basically been inching towards left-wing authoritarianism for a couple years but the past month has put me there firmly. I'm full blown tankie
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'd basically been inching towards left-wing authoritarianism for a couple years but the past month has put me there firmly. Mr Hootington posted:I'm full blown tankie welcome aboard!
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anime was right posted:https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/weekly-mortgage-applications-tank-29percent-as-coronavirus-stops-homebuyers.html and they'll let the houses rot into the ground before they ever lower prices to reasonable levels to entice buyers.
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anime was right posted:https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/weekly-mortgage-applications-tank-29percent-as-coronavirus-stops-homebuyers.html 
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I'd basically been inching towards left-wing authoritarianism for a couple years but the past month has put me there firmly. I mean really in the wake of all this I've seen in all my lefty friends it's either full anarchist/syndicalism 'the state has failed, it's time to allow the local communities to organize alone' or hard leftie authority 'the state has to put the factory owners and landlords in loving jail and take over, command economy or fuckin bust' and welp guess I'm in the second camp!
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:and they'll let the houses rot into the ground before they ever lower prices to reasonable levels to entice buyers. me want house 
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm full blown tankie fully automated luxury gay space communism cornbread communism raise hell and eat corn bread yee yee
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anime was right posted:me want house It's okay, houses usually come with groundhogs though.
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Red Baron posted:fully automated luxury gay space communism Dip the cornbread in the blood of landlords and billionaires.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean really in the wake of all this I've seen in all my lefty friends it's either full anarchist/syndicalism 'the state has failed, it's time to allow the local communities to organize alone' or hard leftie authority 'the state has to put the factory owners and landlords in loving jail and take over, command economy or fuckin bust' and welp guess I'm in the second camp! what are we if we want the state to seize the factories and give them to the workers to run as a coop?
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What would it take to get a typical liberal to admit that The Market is not the best at allocating resources? I’ve been pondering the collapse of Just-In-Time supply chains as an example where prioritizing the national interest and central planning would have been better, even in strictly economic terms. However I get a blanket response that a command economy is too inefficient. I’m also having this argument with my Economist SO who is working 14 hour days calling firms across the country with government production orders. I feel like that should mean something! The Market didn’t have those ventilators ready and those plants didn’t retool themselves.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:what are we if we want the state to seize the factories and give them to the workers to run as a coop? I dunno what that is but I'm sure it's something, grab an AK and we'll knife fight and call eachother wrecker scum about this in 10 years I'm sure.
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Frosted Flake posted:What would it take to get a typical liberal to admit that The Market is not the best at allocating resources? There are dumpster diving Facebook groups with thousands of photos of stores sabotaging their own product before throwing it out because they can't suffer the iniquity of low-income or homeless people using it. I'm talking food waste, cutting clothing to ribbons, mixing makeup and shampoos into a soup, etc. Or just show them photos of Teslas rotting in the desert if they're a techno-utopian Musk worshipper.
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Mr Hootington posted:Dip the cornbread in the blood of landlords and billionaires. i prefer butter but we must all make sacrifices
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Frosted Flake posted:What would it take to get a typical liberal to admit that The Market is not the best at allocating resources? Tell him that since all large corporations operate under unelected command economies, if we want amazon-level efficiency in the government we need to structure things away from markets.
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Frosted Flake posted:What would it take to get a typical liberal to admit that The Market is not the best at allocating resources? Ask what percentage of GDP gets spent on advertising or duplicate goods. We waste an astounding amount of resources on producing and advertising near identical products while neglecting basic needs. Do we *really* need fifteen varieties of toothpaste? Are consumers really making an informed decision between Crest Super Whitening Max and Crest Ultra Bright Fresh? While it might be good to expose some luxury goods to market forces its frankly insane to run the entire economy around the idea
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Tunicate posted:Tell him that since all large corporations operate under unelected command economies, if we want corporate efficiency in the government we need to structure things away from markets. and besides that -- weren't all the "centrally planned economy is inefficient/impossible" talking points created before integrated circuits were a thing like i believe those talking points had at least some reason and truth to them before ICs and networks existed, but since then they've just ossified into axiomatic articles of faith/fealty
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Nix Panicus posted:Ask what percentage of GDP gets spent on advertising or duplicate goods. We waste an astounding amount of resources on producing and advertising near identical products while neglecting basic needs. Do we *really* need fifteen varieties of toothpaste? Are consumers really making an informed decision between Crest Super Whitening Max and Crest Ultra Bright Fresh? While it might be good to expose some luxury goods to market forces its frankly insane to run the entire economy around the idea For a fun time grab some of these "varieties" and read the ingredient lists. A lot of them, even the ones from the same brand, are the exact same product just with different packaging.
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*presidentially* fundamentals
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SKULL.GIF posted:For a fun time grab some of these "varieties" and read the ingredient lists. A lot of them, even the ones from the same brand, are the exact same product just with different packaging. they periodically get sued for saying 'this ibuprofin is for headaches but THIS ONE is for backaches' when it's the same drat pill
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computer components often ship where the factory produces tons and tons of perfectly good high end ones and they arbitrarily cripple some of them because that way they can sell at the low end too
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Mar 26, 2020 04:55
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(protoss voice) MY LIFE FOR NUMBER
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Tunicate posted:they periodically get sued for saying 'this ibuprofin is for headaches but THIS ONE is for backaches' when it's the same drat pill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsojj6NMSs4
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Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth. There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate—died of malnutrition—because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
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Nix Panicus posted:Ask what percentage of GDP gets spent on advertising or duplicate goods. We waste an astounding amount of resources on producing and advertising near identical products while neglecting basic needs. Do we *really* need fifteen varieties of toothpaste? Are consumers really making an informed decision between Crest Super Whitening Max and Crest Ultra Bright Fresh? While it might be good to expose some luxury goods to market forces its frankly insane to run the entire economy around the idea We’ve actually had that argument before. She said it’s an example of “freedom”. How or why it makes you “free” to choose Crest, Colgate or Arm and Hammer when so many are unable to afford them, I couldn’t tell you. She went to a conservative private university and then worked for Cato in D.C so you can imagine how often and how flexibly “freedom” and “liberty” are used in our home.
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Lol that stupid as gently caress legislation passed. Number won’t be going up for much longer when our insurance system collapses and dead people line the streets.
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Mar 26, 2020 05:02
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Frosted Flake posted:worked for Cato  You're welcome.
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Frosted Flake posted:What would it take to get a typical liberal to admit that The Market is not the best at allocating resources? how do they argue it's "inefficient"? wouldn't having dozens of different brands of identical products, each requiring their own overhead, be far more inefficient than just having one brand? hell even with consumer electronics, it's kind of inefficient that there are multiple different phone OSes each mutually incompatible with each other. if that's not inefficiency idk what is
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my small austere cato wedding
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ratbert90 posted:Lol that stupid as gently caress legislation passed. Number won’t be going up for much longer when our insurance system collapses and dead people line the streets. The insurance companies are still posting huge profits through this.
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