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Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Well had to uninstall and reinstall my network adapter and then also uninstall then re set up my Virtual switch for Hyper-v but otherwise so far so good.

The right click on the start menu button theme is the same as when you right click elsewhere on the taskbar.

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?



WattsvilleBlues posted:

How do you get the title bar to reflect the accent colour?

I followed this guide.

http://www.howtogeek.com/222831/how...stead-of-white/

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh


Was this not meant to be baked in in the last build?

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006





Is the Windows tablet thread really dead? Is there no successor?

My 1st generation Microsoft Surface Pro is aging something fierce. I put it in a backpack with a connected type cover 2 and some books one day. It wasn't under too much pressure but now the touch screen doesn't work consistently. Using my finger it sometimes jumps all over the place like this image taken in Paint:



But it's not consistent. Sometimes it still works fine like this:



I noticed it after this backpack trip but also after a Windows update, so I do't know which caused it. Google isn't helping either. I also installed linux mint on it but the grub menu doesn't show up so i can't properly test it. The Haus of Tech Support hasn't given me any answers so I might just have to make a reddit account to post on the surface or surface linux subreddit, but I thought we had threads for this. =/

Any advice on what to do or where to post? I would like my touchscreen to work consistently!

Neowyrm
Dec 23, 2011

It's not like I pack a lunch box full of missiles when I go to work!


cool

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011



I'm thinking about getting a Dualshock 4 - can anyone tell me whether DS4s work on Windows 10 right now? All the stuff google gives me is pretty old, so I'm not sure if it still applies.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

KillHour posted:

You can't uninstall Cortana that way. Give it a shot - Windows just throws an error at you saying it needs it. Same with edge.

Huh, you are right. Irritating. A bit of research indicates it might be possible with dism, but if so I don't know how!

wolrah posted:

Hey, look at that.

They're fixing the inconsistent context menu appearances.

THAT wasn't the problem context menu. It's getting worse

Also, Win+X / Right Clicking the start icon is yet another context menu style, although perhaps it's just the system dark theme of the standard one, not sure.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM


Spiritus Nox posted:

I'm thinking about getting a Dualshock 4 - can anyone tell me whether DS4s work on Windows 10 right now? All the stuff google gives me is pretty old, so I'm not sure if it still applies.

They work just fine on Windows 10. I use my ds4 and a program. Called ds4tool to do the trick.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


WattsvilleBlues posted:

How do you get the title bar to reflect the accent colour?
Settings -> Personalization -> Colors -> Show color on Start, taskbar, and action center.

Unfocused window will be grey, focused will be accent. Some bad windows will not honor this still.

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.


Spiritus Nox posted:

I'm thinking about getting a Dualshock 4 - can anyone tell me whether DS4s work on Windows 10 right now? All the stuff google gives me is pretty old, so I'm not sure if it still applies.

DS4Windows cant mask it as a 360 controller as easily, but it has a built in workaround. DS4s work fine.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

Cat Army


Installed windows 10 on my hp stream 11 x360. Works great so far! However I can't seem to get the touchpad to work, and the driver on HP's page won't install as it's 'out of date'. Any advice?

Shumagorath
Jun 5, 2001


Has anyone had any luck fixing the lock screen customization bug? It doesn't bother me too much as by definition I never see it for more than a few seconds, but it's something so simple that I feel like it should be a quick resolution.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Shumagorath posted:

it's something so simple that I feel like it should be a quick resolution.

There's no resolution possible if the code simply doesn't work.

hitze
Aug 28, 2007
Give me a dollar. No, the twenty. This is gonna blow your mind...



Shumagorath posted:

Has anyone had any luck fixing the lock screen customization bug? It doesn't bother me too much as by definition I never see it for more than a few seconds, but it's something so simple that I feel like it should be a quick resolution.

What are you talking about?

Shumagorath
Jun 5, 2001


hitze posted:

What are you talking about?
No matter what I set as my lock screen image and app info I get the same default image and zero information. I had the image synced via my MS account if that makes any difference.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007







Sweet. This made my desktop look way better. Also, either this or switching the theme to dark mode made all the context menus look consistent, so bonus!


The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

Cat Army


E: gently caress it got it working. IF you have any trouble creating bootable media make sure to a) use rufus and b) for the love of god use GPT not MBR

e2: also if you have a laptop with a touchscreen for the love of god do not upgrade unless you have tested and working recovery media. Got my new Stream 11 last night. Now I need to wait until they send me a set of recovery USBs since my recovery disk didn't take apparently. And HP doesn't provide their touchscreen drivers online either, the bastards.

Managed to guilt the online rep into sending me a new set gratis, but seriously beware.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Aug 28, 2015

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

I'm wondering if there's some sort of RAM compression, forced paging or other memory management scheme going on behind the scenes? Basically, whenever I'm working on our game, which involves Visual Studio and a good ~4GB average footprint from Unreal Engine 4, I'll often have Chrome tabs go inactive, resulting in a full refresh whenever I'd open them. This isn't exactly convenient when it decides to deactivate my Spotify or Google Music tab. It's not exclusive to Chrome either, when I reached near max usage once, I actually looked at UE4Editor's working memory set get instantly pushed down to 1GB (with a corresponding decrease in responsiveness) before steadily working its way back up.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME


Jan posted:

I'm wondering if there's some sort of RAM compression, forced paging or other memory management scheme going on behind the scenes?

Windows Blog posted:

In Windows 10, we have added a new concept in the Memory Manager called a compression store, which is an in-memory collection of compressed pages. This means that when Memory Manager feels memory pressure, it will compress unused pages instead of writing them to disk. This reduces the amount of memory used per process, allowing Windows 10 to maintain more applications in physical memory at a time. This also helps provide better responsiveness across Windows 10. The compression store lives in the System processís working set. Since the system process holds the store in memory, its working set grows larger exactly when memory is being made available for other processes. This is visible in Task Manager and the reason the System process appears to be consuming more memory than previous releases.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003




You would be better off using WinAero tweaker and enabling the Aero Lite theme. It looks better and is much less buggy than that one.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.


Ah, thanks. Now that you mention it, it was System that was growing quickly, not UE4. Back when this happened, I'd tried searching for "Windows 10 RAM compression", but all I could find was a reddit thread that was adamant that MS wouldn't use memory compression because it's inefficient. I wonder if there's a way to disable this? I certainly don't care for the current implementation which knocks out tabs and Visual Studio nilly willy.

Factor Mystic
Mar 19, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Shumagorath posted:

No matter what I set as my lock screen image and app info I get the same default image and zero information. I had the image synced via my MS account if that makes any difference.

The lock screen and the login screen are two different screens. I'm not aware of any non-hack ways to customize the login screen.

Jan posted:

Ah, thanks. Now that you mention it, it was System that was growing quickly, not UE4. Back when this happened, I'd tried searching for "Windows 10 RAM compression", but all I could find was a reddit thread that was adamant that MS wouldn't use memory compression because it's inefficient. I wonder if there's a way to disable this? I certainly don't care for the current implementation which knocks out tabs and Visual Studio nilly willy.

This is only on in the recent insider previews. If you're not running the insider previews then that isn't your problem.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



Spiritus Nox posted:

I'm thinking about getting a Dualshock 4 - can anyone tell me whether DS4s work on Windows 10 right now? All the stuff google gives me is pretty old, so I'm not sure if it still applies.

I've picked up two PS3 controllers lately for $10 a piece, there is a great tool called SCP (sonic? crush? productions? I forget) that doesn't require any config, just install and plug in your PS3 controller and way to go. It even allows for Bluetooth but I haven't fooled around with it enough to make that work.

You can grab it here

codo27 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 28, 2015

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007






Spiritus Nox posted:

I'm thinking about getting a Dualshock 4 - can anyone tell me whether DS4s work on Windows 10 right now? All the stuff google gives me is pretty old, so I'm not sure if it still applies.

I use InputMapper, and it works great.

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Factor Mystic posted:

This is only on in the recent insider previews. If you're not running the insider previews then that isn't your problem.

Well, I don't see what else could be causing programs to suddenly experience a drastic decrease in working set memory while System's skyrockets. I don't think it's new to an insider preview and they only chose to mention it just now, possibly accompanying some actual improvements to that functionality in said insider preview.

Repo Man
Nov 19, 2005


I found the solution to my photo scrolling issues.

Folder options:



The default setting is Quick access.



The option is This PC.



Changing that setting from Quick access to This PC allowed me to scroll through photos on both my camera and my phone when they are attached to my computer by a USB cable. Coming from Windows 7, this folder option is completely new to me (is it there in Win8?), so I had to stumble across it before I could change it and solve my problem.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars




KillHour posted:

I use InputMapper, and it works great.

Why are you using a driver with ads.

Especially why are you using a driver with ads after MotionInJoy.

No it's not the only thing fit for purpose, because DS4Windows exists, but if it was I really would tell you not to use a DS4 with Windows.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010


Jan posted:

Well, I don't see what else could be causing programs to suddenly experience a drastic decrease in working set memory while System's skyrockets. I don't think it's new to an insider preview and they only chose to mention it just now, possibly accompanying some actual improvements to that functionality in said insider preview.

Decompressing in-memory is really fast, and the compression should only kick in when you're somewhat low on ram. I'd be surprised if that's the problem, rather than a driver hogging your memory. Have you checked if there's any page file access while things come back?

Jan
Feb 26, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Dylan16807 posted:

Decompressing in-memory is really fast, and the compression should only kick in when you're somewhat low on ram. I'd be surprised if that's the problem, rather than a driver hogging your memory. Have you checked if there's any page file access while things come back?

"Somewhat low on RAM", as in a game engine editor taking up 3-4GB, running alongside Visual Studio compiling a hot reload and a handful of Chrome tabs? Yeah, I'm absolutely low on RAM. Hot reloading is in UE4 has been a pathological memory case before switching to Windows 10 and I definitely ran out of RAM on my poor old 8GB workstation.

I'm extremely skeptical that it's a driver issue because the timing fits perfectly -- System memory goes up, UE4Editor/Chrome/etc. memory goes down. I could always snoop around with WDK a bit to be sure but yeah.

I have no doubts that the RAM compression/decompression is fast, what bothers me is that it's not transparent (Chrome tabs deloading).

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


d0s posted:

Is it just me or is that really huge/weird looking

I hope that's also at some higher DPI setting.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010


Jan posted:

"Somewhat low on RAM", as in a game engine editor taking up 3-4GB, running alongside Visual Studio compiling a hot reload and a handful of Chrome tabs? Yeah, I'm absolutely low on RAM. Hot reloading is in UE4 has been a pathological memory case before switching to Windows 10 and I definitely ran out of RAM on my poor old 8GB workstation.

I'm extremely skeptical that it's a driver issue because the timing fits perfectly -- System memory goes up, UE4Editor/Chrome/etc. memory goes down. I could always snoop around with WDK a bit to be sure but yeah.

I have no doubts that the RAM compression/decompression is fast, what bothers me is that it's not transparent (Chrome tabs deloading).

It's like a page file but faster. If tabs are deloading that is absolutely not the memory compression that shouldn't even be in your version.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Jan posted:

I have no doubts that the RAM compression/decompression is fast, what bothers me is that it's not transparent (Chrome tabs deloading).
Uh, if I understood things right, it's implemented somewhere in the virtual memory manager and should therefore be transparent. What's probably happening is that Chrome monitors memory usage and things don't add up anymore as it expects it, because total memory usage appears to raise even more when it starts allocating backing memory in the System process, so it starts killing tabs due to ostensibly overwhelming memory pressure.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars




Plaster Town Cop

Combat Pretzel posted:

Uh, if I understood things right, it's implemented somewhere in the virtual memory manager and should therefore be transparent. What's probably happening is that Chrome monitors memory usage and things don't add up anymore as it expects it, because total memory usage appears to raise even more when it starts allocating backing memory in the System process, so it starts killing tabs due to ostensibly overwhelming memory pressure.

They really should lie about double-allocated (normal and being-compressed) pages. The actual pressure hasn't changed, so don't account those pages to userspace until the compression is finished. Too many applications are pressure-aware to make a sudden fake usage spike like that a good idea.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009




Fallen Rib

It definitely doesn't make sense to display compressed pages as straight occupied, as long as they could potentially be offloaded to a page file. The same way memory used for disk cache counts as "available", though not "free".

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

From what Microsoft claims, it's only featured on their new preview builds. So that means he's using a beta (apparently, anyway), so eh. Maybe the double accounting will get fixed.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



One of these days when I open a new tab in Edge and nothing happens when I start typing I'm going to loving burn the whole block down. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CLICK THE ADDRESS BAR FIRST

xamphear
Apr 9, 2002

SILK FOR CALDÉ!

codo27 posted:

One of these days when I open a new tab in Edge and nothing happens when I start typing I'm going to loving burn the whole block down. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CLICK THE ADDRESS BAR FIRST

Don't use Edge?

codo27
Apr 21, 2008



xamphear posted:

Don't use Edge?

I don't even know why I do really. It looks pretty but I hate not having context actions

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

IF I JUST LICK ENOUGH BOOT LEATHER, BIG DADDY TRUMP WILL SURELY LOVE ME

codo27 posted:

I don't even know why I do really. It looks pretty but I hate not having context actions
Or... Anything else really. Edge is bare-loving-bones right now.

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WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

codo27 posted:

One of these days when I open a new tab in Edge and nothing happens when I start typing I'm going to loving burn the whole block down. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CLICK THE ADDRESS BAR FIRST

Many universal apps don't focus the cursor in the text box. Mail account settings, or the initial setting up of the machine have the same issue.

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