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Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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nielsm posted:

One of the good translators finished their coverage of Coco's "I'm number one!" stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytFLAY220Bw

Make sure to read the comment section, there is a pinned one with lots of additional tidbits.
One of the highly voted comments also spawned a thread discussing how large a share of the SC actually goes to the talent. Here one links to another stream by Coco at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY5Omc7TwzA&t=593 where she directly says that Cover Corp takes 50% of the payout from YouTube, leaving about 35% to her. Someone else in the thread also mentions that the "corporate takes everything and pays everyone a fixed salary" model is employed by Nijisanji, but doesn't provide a source.

she doesnt say cover take 50%, she pays a huge amount in taxes. she pays way more because she is a foreigner.

she does say she got around 35% after taxes. it one of the reasons she was pushing for them to use streamlabs instead of youtube since youtube take 30

Reclines Obesily fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Sep 5, 2020

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nielsm
Jun 1, 2009




Fallen Rib

Reclines Obesily posted:

she doesnt say cover take 50%, she pays a huge amount in taxes. she pays way more because she is a foreigner.

she does say she got around 35% after taxes. it one of the reasons she was pushing for them to use streamlabs instead of youtube since youtube take 30

What I hear:
先ずYouTubeに多分30 percentぐらい取られて、それくらいかな、あれは課されてないんですよ。その後事務所に半分分だから、そんだから多分ですけど35 percent三十五パーセントぐらいかなと私は持てます。
I can't interpret the underlined part any other way than "after that the office takes half", and that also matches with the figure of 35% remaining for herself. She doesn't talk about taxes here.


By the way, it appears the official line on why YouTube takes 30% of superchats is that they consider it as purchasing an ad placement on the live stream. (I think there might also be some behind-the-scenes reasoning for avoiding them being considered a banking institution and having to worry about money laundering laws. That's just my own speculation, no basis in anything.)

nielsm fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Sep 5, 2020

Classon Ave. Robot
Oct 7, 2019

by Athanatos


Twitch takes roughly 30% from bit donations I think, it wouldn't make much monetary sense for youtube not to do the same for superchats.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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50% of whats left after youtubes 30% cut would make sense, would line up with what other vtubers have said about nijisanji etc

she talks about taxes in another video but she gets whacked with a ton, its hard to find sources on this stuff because cover are incompetent and privated a poo poo ton of her videos

heres something interesting too
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ihlxca/hololive_superchat_revenue_from_foreign/

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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Classon Ave. Robot posted:

Twitch takes roughly 30% from bit donations I think, it wouldn't make much monetary sense for youtube not to do the same for superchats.

when they first introduced bits some streamers made it so the minimum you could donate on their channel was 10000 (like 200 AUD) to discourage their use, that didn’t last long

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010


Theres no point in using bits anyways unless you want a special badge on the channel since 9/10 people just donate for the text to speech. Twitch figured out that incentivizing people buying subscriptions for other users is more profitable.

Wudz
Aug 19, 2005


Nobody really talks about Towa which is a shame, because she's pretty great.

She's sort of low-key, and her collabs with the more forward personalities have been great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr_evErMyAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK4iY3Nl6Qg#t=284s

also her singing voice, which is one of my favorites of the bunch, is nothing like her speaking voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3gmQzpvBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_W2wh9g3JY

Her whole character is being a devil, but she's the worst at it and is probably one of the most wholesome of all of Hololive.

Also she's got a whole bunch of foreign viewers, wow

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWpL_d_8Vo

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

nope just me lain


if coco marries tenshi she wont be a foreigner anymore right

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009




Fallen Rib

It's not a Rickroll if you label the link accurately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmxpIgPzTJc

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Stairmaster posted:

if coco marries tenshi she wont be a foreigner anymore right

Lol I had the same thought.

I don't know that we sex marriage is a thing in japan though. Idk why coco couldn't get japanese citizenship though unless she doesn't want to give up her us citizenship

Edit: it's not legally recognized unsurprisingly

Tabletops fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 5, 2020

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013


Wudz posted:

Nobody really talks about Towa which is a shame, because she's pretty great.

She's sort of low-key, and her collabs with the more forward personalities have been great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr_evErMyAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK4iY3Nl6Qg#t=284s

also her singing voice, which is one of my favorites of the bunch, is nothing like her speaking voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ3gmQzpvBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_W2wh9g3JY

Her whole character is being a devil, but she's the worst at it and is probably one of the most wholesome of all of Hololive.

Also she's got a whole bunch of foreign viewers, wow

Yeah, Towa was the Vtuber that got into trouble because there was a ~male voice~ at the end of one of her streams and she panicked and lied that it was a CoverCorp employee. The result was a nice little harassment campaign, CoverCorp forcing her to do a public apology and her Japanese viewer count tanking. The whole thing is a reminder that despite everything, Vtubers (or at least Hololive Vtubers) are not that far off from idols, at least as far as Japanese audience is concerned.

At the same time, she got boost of popularity from foreign viewers, which together with the drop from Japanese viewers lead to her being the Hololive member with the highest ratio of foreign viewers/subscribers/superchats, etc. She is not as clippable as someone like Pekora or Haachama, but she is pretty chill and a legit good FPS player, so I recommend watching her stream sometimes. The chat is like 80% English too.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Lt. Lizard posted:

Yeah, Towa was the Vtuber that got into trouble because there was a ~male voice~ at the end of one of her streams and she panicked and lied that it was a CoverCorp employee. The result was a nice little harassment campaign, CoverCorp forcing her to do a public apology and her Japanese viewer count tanking. The whole thing is a reminder that despite everything, Vtubers (or at least Hololive Vtubers) are not that far off from idols, at least as far as Japanese audience is concerned.

At the same time, she got boost of popularity from foreign viewers, which together with the drop from Japanese viewers lead to her being the Hololive member with the highest ratio of foreign viewers/subscribers/superchats, etc. She is not as clippable as someone like Pekora or Haachama, but she is pretty chill and a legit good FPS player, so I recommend watching her stream sometimes. The chat is like 80% English too.
Ah I read about that but didn't realize it was towa. I feel bad for these people tbh. Idol poo poo in japan is honestly pretty gross and so incredibly controlling.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?


Lt. Lizard posted:

she is pretty chill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1U_EtcRmik



(full stream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ1jb8LfyGQ

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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civia youtube debut in 20 mins, she speaks english!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAp27FRlQnI

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013



All I see is a perfectly rational response to playing Getting Over it.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




Reclines Obesily posted:

civia youtube debut in 20 mins, she speaks english!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAp27FRlQnI

code:
> Eat bread.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




I, too, am attractive to the corner of the table.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Is Kizuna Ai ok territory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RfYhYF_8ms#t=8s

this is a collab with two unsigned?? vtubers tenkai tukasa and meika haotoko

it's just them playing mahjong. it's a good time.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013



*I love Chainsaw Man!* Hahaha Yeah!
*I love the main character!* Hahaha Yeah!!!
*She is great!* Hahah...Wait what?
*She is a bit evil though...* Oh nooo.....

Considering Majima being the main character is pretty based though, not gonna lie.

CubeTheory
Mar 26, 2010


I'm Taro Kitazawa! I'm going to draw comics in America!


Lt. Lizard posted:

*I love Chainsaw Man!* Hahaha Yeah!
*I love the main character!* Hahaha Yeah!!!
*She is great!* Hahah...Wait what?
*She is a bit evil though...* Oh nooo.....

Considering Majima being the main character is pretty based though, not gonna lie.

I just had this exact conversation with my roommate, truly terrifying energy to start on

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003


Time for your weekly dose of shitposting mother fuckers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOY45tCOfvg

GUEST WATAME!!

pezzie fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Sep 6, 2020

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




God Watame is great.



Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Sep 6, 2020

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




The wording on that meme was apparently weird enough that Coco advised against writing them in Japanese

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




Oof, that last one.

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Pekora is streaming xenoblade chronicles on switch. I wonder if she'll play the whole thing?

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

Invoking fairy dust is not a crime.


Tabletops posted:

Pekora is streaming xenoblade chronicles on switch. I wonder if she'll play the whole thing?

Most likely, she's always looking for long-rear end cinematic games to comment on.

e: Also lol at that Kanata/Watame collab where the first thing that Kanata does is Coco's panty kick. She's basically her daughter now.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Sep 6, 2020

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

trucutru posted:

Most likely, she's always looking for long-rear end cinematic games to comment on.

Rad. I love this game.


I imagine thisll never be translated though. That kinda stinks but oh well.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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https://twitter.com/Shisuig/status/1302035206417735682



https://twitter.com/theSirToasty/status/1300961813182455808

Captain Cappy
Aug 6, 2008



Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib


sou sou sou....

Captain Cappy
Aug 6, 2008



https://twitter.com/Artia_Hololive/status/1302424467436572672?s=20
https://twitter.com/Artia_Hololive/status/1302422480863125504?s=20
https://twitter.com/Artia_Hololive/status/1302425024930832385?s=20

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!


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https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1302524202495352834

oh wow rimworld

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWrDccFa9I

Monoe playing Obra Dinn, drat. Wasn't ever expecting to see this game played by a JP Vtuber lol

PerOlus
Jan 26, 2003

We'r even, seņor!

nielsm posted:

One of the good translators finished their coverage of Coco's "I'm number one!" stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytFLAY220Bw

Make sure to read the comment section, there is a pinned one with lots of additional tidbits.
One of the highly voted comments also spawned a thread discussing how large a share of the SC actually goes to the talent. Here one links to another stream by Coco at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY5Omc7TwzA&t=593 where she directly says that Cover Corp takes 50% of the payout from YouTube, leaving about 35% to her. Someone else in the thread also mentions that the "corporate takes everything and pays everyone a fixed salary" model is employed by Nijisanji, but doesn't provide a source.

The Nijisanji-info is likely from Kaede's stream where she talked about different income-sources for vtuber-voices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw

sinky
Feb 22, 2011





Slippery Tilde

Ibblebibble posted:

Monoe playing Obra Dinn, drat. Wasn't ever expecting to see this game played by a JP Vtuber lol

Nice, I was wondering if anyone would after Luna and Matsuri played Papers Please.

Captain Cappy
Aug 6, 2008



Wudz posted:

Nobody really talks about Towa which is a shame, because she's pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2539QL0X2E

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008


I enjoy A-Chan and wish she had a channel but her and Korone co-op Biped "mina mina mina shut up", the OkaKoro/Suisei karaoke shock good singing voice, and any flat gags are very good.

She's also literally staff and seems to work very hard and is always loving tweeting.

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013




I heard somewhere that A-chan doesn't actually want to be a full-time vtuber so a cameo role is good enough for me.

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.




I feel her there.

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