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The tech nerd in me really wants someone to make a truly good movie in high framerate. That side of me is still convinced that the two most well known examples, Hobbit and Gemini Man, were both significantly flawed productions to begin with which got lumped in with criticism of the feel of the higher framerate. I do feel like a lot of the issue is similar to when local news started to go HD and their crews all had to learn the hard way which shortcuts they couldn't get away with anymore. Likewise higher framerates give away a lot of tricks that you could hide in the motion blur at 24 FPS. That said at the same time I've recently started mountain biking and when filming my rides I can't deny that while the higher framerates are great for slow motion shots there is just something that feels comfortable about 24 FPS.
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If you read up about Ang Lee’s process on both Gemini Man and Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, he’s very aware of that aspect of filming in HFR and worked hard to mitigate it. It just seems really hard to work with and not worth the effort for narrative fiction
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# ? Jan 28, 2022 21:13 |
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tehinternet posted:I get what you’re saying, but the only semi-alternative is Reddit and that’s not really an alternative at all being as it’s upvote based. Yeah i prefer death to a forum that doesn't use chronological posting by default.
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# ? Jan 28, 2022 21:32 |
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codo27 posted:Frequenting threads like this makes me question the very nature of the internet forum. OPs quickly become obsolete or ineffective, we need stickies that appear at the top of every page to cut down on "what x should I buy" questions. You can still have the discourse for the more intricate details but the same questions that are asked daily should have their answers provided more readily I kinda like just having the same discussions semi-frequently. It's fun to talk about stuff.
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# ? Jan 28, 2022 22:46 |
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I'd be more inclined to give people some leeway with the old fashioned slow mo filming, if literally anyone could come up with a defense for it besides "its what I'm used to", the absolute worst excuse for anything in the world
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# ? Jan 28, 2022 23:55 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Yeah i prefer death to a forum that doesn't use chronological posting by default. Same, friend. This thread and the monitor thread have provided a decent education in hardware and display tech (even the people who post bad information). I really enjoy coming here and seeing what the Smart Goons are posting because it’s usually informative and helpful.
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And I believe context to be important. Sorting by the most popular post seems tailor-made for promoting disingenuous arguments.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 00:41 |
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An updated OP is likely the best remedy but even then, you have to approach it from both the direction of "My 32" CRT just died what are these new connectors for?" And "the C3 is supporting AtSC 3.0 " It's a hard needle to thread.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 00:57 |
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There was a brief period a few years back when to lighten load on the database threads were closed after 1000 posts and I didn't mind it since there's not much value to seeing people ask which 2015 model TV they should buy in 2022. That said I'm also not a huge fan of "blessed" models, tier lists and the like that are popular elsewhere. I'm fine with people asking basic questions even if it does get redundant.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 00:57 |
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Broke: 2.0 stereo Woke: 3.2 surround GoAT: 9.2.6 Dolby HiFiATMOS:X Pair ONLY with an LG OLED serial number ending in MX028 to achieve a true richness of sound and video.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 01:05 |
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codo27 posted:I'd be more inclined to give people some leeway with the old fashioned slow mo filming, if literally anyone could come up with a defense for it besides "its what I'm used to", the absolute worst excuse for anything in the world FilthyImp posted:1) The Hobbit showed us that audiences are able to better spot shortcomings, which translates to a worse experience. EL BROMANCE posted:I mean, I don’t really have to. If HFR was effective for movies, directors (whether up and coming or experienced hands) would be tripping over themselves to shoot in it. In reality, it’s a ton harder and more expensive to produce and there’s been virtually no market pushing for it. Just because something is possible it doesn’t mean it’s a necessity.
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Yeah, I’d love to see high frame rate content but the points against it are unfortunately valid right now. Which sucks.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 03:12 |
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In my experience, HFR is great for action scenes filmed entirely in-camera, but the moment you insert CGI or other complicated VFX it becomes very unconvincing/noticeable. 24p and its associated motion blur give VFX artists so much more wiggle room. Basically make a kung fu movie in HFR is what I’m saying.
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 08:36 |
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See, I thought the CGI in HFR The Hobbit looked fantastic, and that scenes with high-contrast lighting (like lit by campfire) looked less "I'm watching the world's most expensive stage production." I was also loving around with frame interpolation when watching The Spy Who Came in from the Cold the other day, and weirdly it wasn't nearly as off-putting as it seems to be when I'm watching non-B&W films. I don't know if it's again a contrast thing, or maybe just that I've watched so little B&W television that it doesn't psychologically trigger the soap-opera connection in my brain. (It was my first watch of that film, incidentally. At some point I picked up a number of Criterion discs of "films I probably should see but haven't," and this was one of them.) But because I'm an intellectually lazy man who is easy to entertain, I naturally followed it up with an old favorite.
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Raiders is one of the greatest achievements in American cinema history
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 18:24 |
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Vizio 55" OLED $1000 shipped
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 18:53 |
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codo27 posted:Raiders is one of the greatest achievements in American cinema history
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# ? Jan 29, 2022 19:17 |
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Big TV for cheap. Best Buy has the 70" TCL 4 series Android TV version for $500 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-70-class-4-series-led-4k-uhd-hdr-smart-android-tv/6481727.p?skuId=6481727
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I should have just bought that A8H OLED last week. Sigh.
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# ? Jan 30, 2022 04:45 |
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FCKGW posted:Big TV for cheap. Best Buy has the 70" TCL 4 series Android TV version for $500 What's the advantages and disadvantages of an android TV? I have the TCL Roku but I haven't heard about the other options.
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# ? Jan 30, 2022 06:59 |
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What causes something like this? My tv has one in the same spot as the bottom most right one. Not as bad as that but I still faintly see it. Is it something I could reasonably fix or improve myself?
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# ? Jan 30, 2022 18:28 |
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SeANMcBAY posted:
Those are spider egg sacs. You have to open the back of your TV to remove them. Be careful, because the change in pressure can cause them to rupture, showering tiny spiders everywhere. Having a large shop vac to suck them all up immediately upon opening is highly recommended. those are LEDs that have died. Not really fixable by yourself, but would be likely covered if still under warranty
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I’m off warranty. Wonder if it would make economic sense to repair. I don’t mind attempting myself unless it’s ridiculously hard. Is it possible it could be something else for mine? SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 30, 2022 |
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A couple things I’m not a fan of with the C1 or maybe just need guidance with: - I can’t seem to find any Bluetooth options, or way to stop other devices connecting to my TV. With my last TV, it asked me if I wanted to accept or deny them, but with this one my housemate accidentally connected to it and it just…..played whatever YouTube video he was trying to show his wife without asking me. - A lot of the time when watching something via USB or on a console it doesn’t note the style and change accordingly. For instance, I tested out a Dolby Vision mkv file and it knew that it was HDR but not that it was DV so it was all green and poo poo. And when I’m playing discs in my Xbox it doesn’t change from the game enhancer mode - this might be down to the console itself, but it’s still a pain. Other than those things I’m still basically spending my time in awe at how beautiful it is and how great everything looks on it
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SeANMcBAY posted:I’m off warranty. Wonder if it would make economic sense to repair. I don’t mind attempting myself unless it’s ridiculously hard. If the spot is faint enough, it might be regular old dirty screen effect ('DSE'). If that's the case, I think your options are get used to it or buy a new TV with less panel variance. If it's something that popped up recently, then yeah, probably an LED failure.
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Space Racist posted:If the spot is faint enough, it might be regular old dirty screen effect ('DSE'). If that's the case, I think your options are get used to it or buy a new TV with less panel variance. I’m thinking it’s maybe that but isn’t that normally closer to the center of the tv? It definitely hasn’t just appeared. I’m just noticing it more. Edit: Maybe I should actually post a photo for reference. SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 30, 2022 |
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Lmao
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Thank you for that. But seriously, what’s wrong with my tv. I really like it other than this. SeANMcBAY fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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Escobarbarian posted:I tested out a Dolby Vision mkv file and it knew that it was HDR but not that it was DV so it was all green and poo poo. It does not support Dolby Vision in mkv. Only mp4 and only the streaming versions.
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Toe Rag posted:I bought an OLED TV about ~4 years ago and have done literally nothing to it besides clean the screen once or twice. Here is my follow up for all who have been waiting! I bought a 15' cable which is substantially thicker, and it works fine. I guess the 3x 6' eventually just gave out. Sad. Hopefully my TV isn't next to go.
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Are there any goons running super long HDMI cables for their set-up? I'm talking 25 feet (7.62 meters) or more. I'm curious if that's working well or has any caveats in real-world scenarios as having my consoles in a different room would mean better protection from my kid and others while not forgoing proper ventilation. Thanks
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 20:46 |
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a buddy of mine has a fiber optic 100ft cable going from his basement to his living room, and it works fine. I think for HDMI 2.1 stuff you need fiber over 10? 25? some distance or it won't work right, but I think for HDMI 2.0 you're gravy all the way to 100ft plus with most any cable
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15ft is the maximum for 4k/120 for regular copper hdmi, but at that length it reportedly can be iffy. I'm using a 30ft Monoprice active optical cable and haven't run into any technical issues.
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HONKER24 posted:Are there any goons running super long HDMI cables for their set-up? I'm talking 25 feet (7.62 meters) or more. I'm using this 10 meter/33 foot Cable Matters fiber optic cable to connect my PC with a 3070 to a LG CX and it works great, 4K120, HDR, and VRR all work as expected. It also works for connecting my Vive link box up in the living room. https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-300047-BLK-10m-HDMI/dp/B08GMC7C91/ As noted, 15 feet is the practical limit for copper. Moving up to fiber is an expensive step but once you're there longer cables tend to be surprisingly cheap because all the cost is in the ends.
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Tatsuta Age posted:a buddy of mine has a fiber optic 100ft cable going from his basement to his living room, and it works fine. I think for HDMI 2.1 stuff you need fiber over 10? 25? some distance or it won't work right, but I think for HDMI 2.0 you're gravy all the way to 100ft plus with most any cable it's me For more than like 15 feet you want fiber for HDMI 2.1, specifically https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08XLPX5Z7 or the in wall equivalent. Plug it into your source and TV directly. If you want other boxes in between be prepared to be annoyed. If you're doing 2.0b there's a lot more options.
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We have the LG C1, the newest Apple TV 4K, and the Denon AVR-S760H. This Anker cable is running both from the Apple TV to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV and we get noticeable lip sync issues (video ahead of audio). https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZYQ43S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_FV30QC3YFMWDDXYXY03Z?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Otherwise everything works great (PS5, mainly), but… this cable should be good enough to not have any sync issues, right?
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Are there any decent TV price aggregator sites?
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 23:51 |
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Thanks for the input on the long HDMi runs. This is now back on the list of my "To Do"s right next to building my firewood rack and putting a POE router in the attic.
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Grimmeh posted:We have the LG C1, the newest Apple TV 4K, and the Denon AVR-S760H. This Anker cable is running both from the Apple TV to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV and we get noticeable lip sync issues (video ahead of audio). Have you tried plugging the Apple TV directly to the C1 and sending audio to the receiver via eARC?
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