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bader is as good or not quite as good as phil davis at mma wrestling. that's all that needs to be said when studying exactly how successful bader will be in that fight.
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I would expect and rather Rumble to win but also I kind of want to see Bader KO him for the sheer bizarre spectacle.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:12
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if we've learned one thing from rumble in all of his ufc fights is that even if you have the wrestling to absolutely dominate him he is still good enough to land at least one punch that can change a fight. also phil in a striking sense is a much more defensively sound striker and he spent the entire time looking hurt and extremely scared.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:15
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I want Bader to win to see what they'll come up with next to avoid giving him a title shot.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:16
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Will rumble gas if he can't blast Bader out quickly
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Nov 5, 2015 03:16
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Rumble has always sucked and it was amazing when people thought he was going to have like a third career resurgence after clocking Little Nog
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EmmyOk posted:I would expect and rather Rumble to win but also I kind of want to see Bader KO him for the sheer bizarre spectacle. I'm a big fan of the posters that just want chaos.
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I think my most goddamn moment from Rumble wasn't even the time he punched DC across the cage but when in round 3 even after being wrestlefucked he just flexed his way out of a kimura. Also DumbWhiteGuy can we please have Werdum doing Werdum face with Gaston as his picture next month? tia
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Skip My Posts posted:Will rumble gas if he can't blast Bader out quickly no. see: the phil davis fight.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:20
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-Atom- posted:Rumble has always sucked and it was amazing when people thought he was going to have like a third career resurgence after clocking Little Nog you are the stupidest motherfucker on the planet
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Nov 5, 2015 03:21
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Marching Powder posted:no. see: the phil davis fight. But he did gas hard with DC after punching himself out. But if Bader gets caught with the shot that DC did he gonna die.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:23
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Le Saboteur posted:But he did gas hard with DC after punching himself out. But if Bader gets caught with the shot that DC did he gonna die. no he gassed because dc was able to control the tempo of the fight. something that bader is completely incapable of against a good fighter
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also lol at the thought of comparing bader to dc in any respect other than weight at the time of the weigh in
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Marching Powder posted:also phil in a striking sense is a much more defensively sound striker and he spent the entire time looking hurt and extremely scared. I don't think that's actually true any more; Bader's technique looked a lot better against Rashad. Admittedly Rashad being rusty as hell had a lot to do with his success in that fight, but he had a much better stance, better balance, and he wasn't hopping off the ground with his shots any more. Skip My Posts posted:Will rumble gas if he can't blast Bader out quickly Depends entirely on whether or not Bader can put on any kind of pressure. If Johnson's power makes Bader tentative enough that Johnson can control the tempo of the fight, he'll be fine. If Bader can pretend to be a burly Clay Guida and have Johnson constantly fending off doubles, even if he's successful in doing so he may well gas out. EmmyOk posted:I think my most goddamn moment from Rumble wasn't even the time he punched DC across the cage but when in round 3 even after being wrestlefucked he just flexed his way out of a kimura. Also DumbWhiteGuy can we please have Werdum doing Werdum face with Gaston as his picture next month? tia lol
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fatherdog posted:I don't think that's actually true any more; Bader's technique looked a lot better against Rashad. Admittedly Rashad being rusty as hell had a lot to do with his success in that fight, but he had a much better stance, better balance, and he wasn't hopping off the ground with his shots any more. bader has definitely gotten better at striking, but the only way that will make an ounce of difference against rumble is if he can use that improved striking to set up his shots - something that i've never seen from either him or phil which is why they are what they are.
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Northjayhawk posted:Credible MMA media are suggesting Werdum - Cain II in Vegas on super bowl weekend could happen. Only thing about that is I'm not sure what they're going to do for the Brazil PPV card in March. Anderson is supposedly already talking about his return early next year on social media after his suspension is up, so that might be why they're looking at moving the heavyweight title match to a bigger weekend cause Anderson could hold up a decent PPV on his own. Or maybe if RDA gets through Cerrone without injury they might get him back in there already, that would be the same turnaround he did this year from the Diaz fight to the Pettis fight. Unless UFC is no longer planning on going to Brazil for March and that's why they're moving it up.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:47
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Rumble is going to knock out Bader really hard and it will be cool.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:48
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I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that Bader has the chin needed to survive a shot from Rumble, and Rumble seems to catch everyone he fights at least once.
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Nov 5, 2015 04:27
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Marching Powder posted:bader has definitely gotten better at striking, but the only way that will make an ounce of difference against rumble is if he can use that improved striking to set up his shots - something that i've never seen from either him or phil which is why they are what they are. I vaguely remember him doing one cool striking into a takedown thing against Rampage, like a less good version of what Rashad did.
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NippleFloss posted:I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that Bader has the chin needed to survive a shot from Rumble, and Rumble seems to catch everyone he fights at least once. "Coach tape my fingers into flippers"
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Snowman_McK posted:I vaguely remember him doing one cool striking into a takedown thing against Rampage, like a less good version of what Rashad did. hmm that's going back a bit. and i'm not going to re-watch a ryan bader fight for any reason. i will say though that rumble is actually a really solid wrestler. it's not like he's got an osp level deficiency. i honestly think it would require someone on dc's level of wrestling to actually get the bastard down and hold him there. and if you stand with im, it seems you've got the option of running like phil davis or getting annihilated like everyone else. i'm definitely underselling bader, but i'd say he wins 1 out of 10 times if he fights the fight of his life and has improved measurably
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Nov 5, 2015 04:45
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I don't actually think Rumble's wrestling is that good at all; it's just that everyone aside from DC has gotten a taste of his power and been doing all their shots from ten feet away, which is going to make anyone look great at defending takedowns.
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i think it's fair to say at the least that he's 'not deficient'. but you're right in that there's no real yardstick for it.
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Marching Powder posted:i think it's fair to say at the least that he's 'not deficient'. but you're right in that there's no real yardstick for it. Yeah, I wasn't suggesting his wrestling was actually bad, just that how it looked against Phil is not at all indicative of how it's going to look against someone willing to punch their way into range. Which of course may or may not have any bearing on the Bader fight, since Bader is no DC on the feet.
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Now I'm convinced Dariush deserved the Johnson decision.
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Bubba Smith posted:Now I'm convinced Dariush deserved the Johnson decision. I also feel like that exchange should be shown to the judges of any other Dariush fights
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Nov 5, 2015 08:28
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-Atom- posted:Rumble has always sucked and it was amazing when people thought he was going to have like a third career resurgence after clocking Little Nog Can you offer us an MMA opinion that you truly believe isn't total nonsense, -Atom-? Liking Carlos Condit, Mark Coleman, Matt Serra or other soft balls aren't valid answers. (I probably can't, fwiw)
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It's really hard to determine how Schroedinger's Bader is ever going to work but I think Johnson might get to curb stomp a dead cat.
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Nov 5, 2015 13:26
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I could possibly last minute organise myself down to Melbourne for UFC 193. People who know MMA better than I do - is the card likely to be as fun as I think it will be?
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Captain Log posted:It's really hard to determine how Schroedinger's Bader is ever going to work but I think Johnson might get to curb stomp a dead cat. Johnson has never had an issue with white pussy though.
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Nov 5, 2015 13:50
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Score another win for GBS.
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Wazzu posted:I could possibly last minute organise myself down to Melbourne for UFC 193. People who know MMA better than I do - is the card likely to be as fun as I think it will be? The prelims have enough home talent to whip the crowd up, and the main card looks like it will be very violent. I'd go if it wasn't quite literally on the other side of the planet.
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Nov 5, 2015 16:08
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Ryan Bader is the shittiest zombie apocalypse.
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 President Faber's first act: ban all shirts everywhere  
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Can you offer us an MMA opinion that you truly believe isn't total nonsense, -Atom-? Why would you do this? To read more atom posts? Retarded
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besides like, uhh, Gadelha
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