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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Siegkrow posted:

Also, never argue religion near the Vatican.

Also: is the Pope the strongest shaman alive?

Being a believer, even an incredibly fanatical and devoted one, does not mean you will become Awakened in the related magical tradition. And even if you are, a bunch of mundanes thinking you're in charge won't make you more magically powerful (and vice versa).

Progressing in power and technique within your tradition is typically an intensely personal journey and yadda yadda yadda spend karma.

If any religion could prove that strictly adhering to it equaled magical power, then most people would abandon their competition in a hot second.

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Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.
This is pretty clearly a setting point dictated by real-world concerns (the aforementioned fear of another Satanic Panic). So trying to rationalise it in-setting will always run into a block.

That's not to say a Catholic uprising in Central America wouldn't be a pretty magnificent campaign seed though!

fluffyDeathbringer
Nov 1, 2017

it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it
Thanks for all the info!

There was also iirc a thing upthread about some Japanese CEO being literally deified as the company's patron god; did they become a totem? Can people's spirits linger after death and become totems in general?

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Loxbourne posted:


That's not to say a Catholic uprising in Central America wouldn't be a pretty magnificent campaign seed though!
Man that sounds cool. Anyone thinks we could set that up in the game room?

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

Phaiston have long avoided the tightly competetive defence sector, but the IRDA Act 2052 has given us the freedom we need to bring out something really special.

https://team-robostar.itch.io/robostar


Nap Ghost

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

Thanks for all the info!

There was also iirc a thing upthread about some Japanese CEO being literally deified as the company's patron god; did they become a totem? Can people's spirits linger after death and become totems in general?

So I saw this post in isolation and for a moment I thought I'd clicked into the PYF Cool Facts From History thread by accident. I'm quite disappointed now.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

Thanks for all the info!

There was also iirc a thing upthread about some Japanese CEO being literally deified as the company's patron god; did they become a totem? Can people's spirits linger after death and become totems in general?

They did not. Even if people could become totems, it'd take a lot more than being a dead guy who was worshiped for a few decades. There'd be a whole lot more of them otherwise.

There are Spirits of Man who will claim to be the souls of the deceased. Some people believe them. Many do not. There are as many approaches to dealing with such spirits as there are governments. Verifying the actual truth of the matter is generally considered impossible.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

Thanks for all the info!

There was also iirc a thing upthread about some Japanese CEO being literally deified as the company's patron god; did they become a totem? Can people's spirits linger after death and become totems in general?

That was Inazo Aneki, the founder and long time CEO of Renraku, who turned a holding company that bought out the foundering remains of one of the original Megacorps (Keruba, a Balkans based arms manufacturer) following the Matrix Crash of 2029, rebranded it, moved it to Chiba, and turned it into a powerhouse for decades to come.

Then the Renraku Arcology incident of 2061 happens as Renraku was getting a bit too eager in their AI research; one of the AIs Renraku was experimenting with, Deus, escapes their control and fries Aneki's brain while he's jacked in during an attempt to convert him to his cause, and he's shipped off to Tibet using an item bequeathed to Renraku from Dunkelzahn's will in order to try and have the monks try to repair his mental faculties. It works; Runners with Red Samurai backup and the UCAS Military providing the muscle spirit him to the Arcology so he can use his kill codes to shut down the Arcology server Matrix hosts as Deus is trying to upload himself to it in order to become a literal god in the machine, but in doing so, he allows Deus to escape Renraku property as he was uploading himself into the brains of his followers and his unwilling prisoners trapped in the Arcology, setting up the events of the Second Matrix Crash.

So Aneki commits seppuku over his failure, but he's still deified by Renraku as the person who led them this far, so he's installed as the company kami, watching over the corp for all time, and permanently occupying the position of CEO (all of his successors are still "acting CEOs", even if they have the actual authority). So while he's worshipped as a kami by Renraku, he cannot become a spirit. Maybe a Renraku shaman will see Aneki as their mentor spirit, it's probably not actually him and only a way for their totem to actually reveal themselves to the practitioner through that connection.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Nov 21, 2018

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Y'know I never really thought of it, but I wonder if Aneki Corp from the SNES game was meant to be Renraku then.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Siegkrow posted:

Also, never argue religion near the Vatican.

Also: is the Pope the strongest shaman alive?

the Pope is still just some old guy with a sweet hat. also access to one of the most ludicrously potent magical treasure troves on the planet, so there are Theories about some of the new regalia popes have been toting around since the Schisms of Europe, but he is just an old guy with a sweet hat.

now, the monk with an Order of Saint Sylvester medallion in his entourage? that guy you probably don't want to peek at in the astral. he's liable to take it personally.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

oh by the way, whoever was talking about putting together a campaign involving catholic revolutionaries in latin america, you might want to consider reading the book 'The Power and The Glory' by Graham Greene

a smart-as-gently caress priest recommended it to me and i enjoyed it - it's centered on a priest sneaking around mexico during an anti-clerical regime performing masses under penalty of death and such. it's an extremely good book so there's much more to it than that (just to scratch the surface, the priest wasn't even a good priest when times were good, he's got a child and a mistress and stuff, but he finds himself sneaking around courting death when the good priests have mostly given up and he doesn't even really know why), and it might have some ideas in there as well as just being a good as gently caress book. edit: disclaimer; i havent read it in most of a decade and may be 180 degrees wrong about any or every prior detail

anyway

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



paragon1 posted:

They did not. Even if people could become totems, it'd take a lot more than being a dead guy who was worshiped for a few decades. There'd be a whole lot more of them otherwise.
So? Why wouldn't that be the case? *Not* having Comrade Lenin, or Lennon be an appropriately magic granting inspiration is the obviously wrong solution here.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

the Pope is still just some old guy with a sweet hat. also access to one of the most ludicrously potent magical treasure troves on the planet, so there are Theories about some of the new regalia popes have been toting around since the Schisms of Europe, but he is just an old guy with a sweet hat.

now, the monk with an Order of Saint Sylvester medallion in his entourage? that guy you probably don't want to peek at in the astral. he's liable to take it personally.

I know that if I were one of the guys in a Conclave my vote would go to the guy who is capable of a good Smiting or two.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

IMJack posted:

Newer editions lumped totems and idols together into "mentor spirits" and opened up to things like hermetics with mentors and shamans of pantheons who don't focus on a specific patron.

The Catholic Church challenging Aztechnology on their home ground would mean fighting in an area where neo-Aztec religion and magic are dominant. The Azzies have been deliberately gaming things this way by suppressing Catholicism and tying the Aztlan government and religion together at the hip. And that's before blood magic comes into play. But New Jesuit operatives have plenty of interest in Aztlan and the Catholic holdouts and relics still present.

They've also sent in what amounts to papal black ops units to help support the constant low-key rebellions, and it's hard to be worse than the Azzies which is why constant. We're talking high grade initiate physads, super-hot deckers and chromed out operatives, all of whom can intelligently discourse at length on St. Augustine of Hippo while they take you apart at the joints.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Siegkrow posted:

Man that sounds cool. Anyone thinks we could set that up in the game room?

I could be persuaded to do that. Never done a PNP game via Something Awful, and I haven't played Shadowrun more than a couple times... and not in the last decade and a half. I can already see my character, though. Sister Maria Magdelena Flores de la Fuente, Troll adept and mendicant nun of the Order of Saint Clare.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Xander77 posted:

So? Why wouldn't that be the case? *Not* having Comrade Lenin, or Lennon be an appropriately magic granting inspiration is the obviously wrong solution here.

Because that's just not how the setting works. :shrug:

Also, as someone who GMs Shadowrun's:

Because then you have a million different mentors doing almost the exact same thing. The rulebook is already a more than thick enough mess, and anyone who wants to be more so can go jump off a cliff.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Of course, in your game you can have things work however you want them to work. The players can magical giudance from Colonel Sanders if they want. That's part of the fun!

I am giving answers for the setting as described by sourcebooks and videogames.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



paragon1 posted:

Because then you have a million different mentors doing almost the exact same thing. The rulebook is already a more than thick enough mess, and anyone who wants to be more so can go jump off a cliff.
A lore post above noted that if you want Coyote to appear to you as Bugs Bunny / Anansi, you are more than welcome to do so. That make sense from a narrative perspective and make for satisfying gameplay from the player's perspective.

fluffyDeathbringer
Nov 1, 2017

it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it
So the totem is the base spirit, and the idol is whatever the spirit shows itself as to its chosen. If I've understood it right, whenever people in this universe think they commune with their religious or otherwise revered figures for magic, they're actually communing with a totem showing itself in a form the shaman understands (meaning you can have a Lenin shaman, but it's actually a totem wearing a Lenin mask).

I appreciate all the loreposting in response to my questions. I've only recently gotten into Shadowrun with Kanfy's DMS LP, and it's really caught my attention. And when a setting catches my attention, I sometimes just want to get the aspects of it that catch me. Sorry if I've been obnoxious about it.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

So the totem is the base spirit, and the idol is whatever the spirit shows itself as to its chosen.

Nah, totem/idol is apparently terminology from 3rd edition cut out later, but the original idea here is that idols and totems are mechanically the same "type" of entity (otherworldly mentors empowering shamans) but are distinct from each other. Dragonslayer isn't a mask of Dog or whatever. Idols are abstract archetypes representing common mythic tropes, totems are more tied to the writers' understanding of "Native American" religion. The idols came later I think to give options for players who liked the shaman mechanics but wanted character concepts based on another mythology.

Siegkrow
Oct 11, 2013

Arguing about Lore for 5 years and counting



Hey guys, I was posting this in a general chat thread somewhere else on the forum but I think you may appreciate this too:


me posted:

The original game's artstyle really drew me in when I was just an edgy teen






Comes from an early-to-mid 00's Chilean TCG.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

I appreciate all the loreposting in response to my questions. I've only recently gotten into Shadowrun with Kanfy's DMS LP, and it's really caught my attention. And when a setting catches my attention, I sometimes just want to get the aspects of it that catch me. Sorry if I've been obnoxious about it.

No worries, Shaman are a really cool aspect of Shadowrun. As a kid, I always played phys adepts, and they still have a special place in my heart. However, looking back as an adult, it really strikes me how awesome it is that shaman directly blend the roleplaying and mechanics together in a way that that's not really comparable to the other classes. It's the reason I was pretty bummed to learn that later editions drop shaman entirely, and just let magic classes take a patron spirit as a perk. It feels really watered down, and misses what made shaman so distinct.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


paragon1 posted:

Of course, in your game you can have things work however you want them to work. The players can magical giudance from Colonel Sanders if they want.

I mean yeah! There's a man who cared enough about his cooking that he fought the corporation he created when they proved unfaithful.

The only colonel who fed people and wasn't responsible for war crimes.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Xander77 posted:

A lore post above noted that if you want Coyote to appear to you as Bugs Bunny / Anansi, you are more than welcome to do so. That make sense from a narrative perspective and make for satisfying gameplay from the player's perspective.

Yep, they're still mechanically identical to whatever their base mentor spirit is, but if Lenin is how your character understands Dragonslayer, then that's how they'll appear. The original question was "Can people become totems". To which the answer was "No"*. A totem wearing a John Lennon mask doesn't make them John Lennon, but hey who really cares if he helps you chuck fireballs better?

*Unless the players and GM decide differently.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
to go all MIT&T about it: there are eddies in the astral of emotional resonance, that once magic-users are acclimated to can teach them how to use magic more easily when in harmony with that emotional resonance. the fact that these always take a shape and speak a language in a way the magic user internalizes that resonance is considered a major hint in the academic magical community: whatever we see them as, that's not what they are. Owl shamans have been particularly useful in this regard, because Owl seems to genuinely encourage its servants trying to figure out no, really, who the hell is that voice in the night saying "you've almost got it, you've ALMOST got it, just a LITTLE BIT MORE. Who. WHOOO."

they haven't found the fucker yet, but damned if they're not going to keep looking.

magic. it's bullshit.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

fluffyDeathbringer posted:

I appreciate all the loreposting in response to my questions. I've only recently gotten into Shadowrun with Kanfy's DMS LP, and it's really caught my attention. And when a setting catches my attention, I sometimes just want to get the aspects of it that catch me. Sorry if I've been obnoxious about it.

Nah, we love loreposting here, let's a bunch of us cut loose and post a lot about stuff we enjoy. I feel you about diving deep into the guts of a setting though, I've had that happen to me as well, plus amazing trivia recall and always wanting to learn more about the details of something and confirm half remembered bits of knowledge.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Yeah it's all good, I have the best support staff in the whole dang LP forum and let no one tell you otherwise.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
I've gotten to the point where I've downloaded various books just for the story, because the Shadowrun universe is well put together compared to most cyberpunk futures. And less depressing than reading the more recent Gibson novels and thinking "oh, crap, this stuff is happening right now but we don't get the cool parts."

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.
oh hey, this mission...I like this mission.

It makes me laugh a lot. Good pick on the characters chosen for it too...I believe you get maximum hilarity with this group.

Siegkrow posted:

Awwwww bullshit. Talking as a Latam native, Catholicism is so engrained in this subcontinent that you would have to run at least a whole century of pogroms to unroot it.

I ain't even religious, but come on!

As horrifying as it might sound, where do you think they got the blood magic to get that powerful to begin with?

Reminds me of FMA and those initial philosopher stones.

mauman fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Nov 22, 2018

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Hannibal Rex posted:

Since this seems to be the only active Shadowrun thread, can I get some advice for Hong Kong?

I'm playing a gunslinger/conjurer and I'm trying to figure out how to get the most out of cyberware without impacting my spellcasting. So I will get cyber-affinity 3 and only use the one spare essence I get from that.

In Dragonfall on very hard, in needed as much accuracy I could get to keep up with the enemies higher defensive stats. I'm a few missions into HK, but there hasn't been much combat yet. Does this still hold true? There's no very hard difficulty anymore, so I'm not quite sure.

It seems with only 1 essence to spend, it's fairly straightforward to get Alpha Vision Enhancement and two SK skillwires, skipping a Datajack and smartlinked guns. Am I right, or does anyone have a better suggestion?

okay if I remember right AVE is 6% to hit, and the SK skillwires are ranged combat so I think you're on the right track. The only question I have and I can't answer off hand is whether or not a smartlink gun gives better value than 6% to-hit. That'd be the determining factor on a smartlink vs eyes.

As far as combat goes you will run into a lot of it. HK has a lot more runs where you can choose to avoid combat -- there's just more variety on how you approach things during each run. You will get a mix of that and combat as you continue, so yes, you're gonna get in some fights. Sometimes some big and nasty ones.

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Part 33 - Into the Sealed Realm







By employing the not-so-latest innovations in drone technology, we've made it inside the closed-off laboratory containing Ezkibel's precious bioware with our dignity more or less intact. No obvious signs of anything being off in this entrance hall yet, so we flip a coin and check the door to the right first.



Beyond is just another nondescript and messy room, though one equipped with a computer terminal of vaguely scientific nature. Let's see if this thing still works, any information about what we might be wading into here would be welcome.





Tissue banks, animal testing... "special projects"? This all sounds perfectly safe and not at all like some horrible bioweapon monstrosity broke free and wiped the place out. We can click each of the entries for more information, so let's just go down the list here.






More or less what you'd expect to find in a cyberpunk biolab like this, nothing particularly noteworthy here. Let's try and avoid falling into the penis vats though.






Know your competition, huh. This also doesn't seem particularly relevant to the situation at hand, it's unlikely that some other company would be behind whatever happened here. Moving on.






An outside investor wanted to get ahold of the fruits of other companies' biotech labor? Well, well. Cold storage in the Executive Wing, let's make a mental note of that.






What, could there actually have been some truth to the accusations which led to the good doctor getting kicked out of Spain? Hard to believe. Downright shocking, really.

Not that we can take much of a moral high ground in this matter, or most matters that matter for that matter. And if we can make use of this bioware without the "tens of thousands of nuyen" -part to deal with the threat we and potentially countless other people are facing, isn't it all for the greater good in the end?

Well not really, but we're criminals so what do we care anyway.






It's just like that famous band, Billy & The Hellhounds. One would hope these guys had the sense to test their "experimental procedures" on something small and harmless. Y'know, like a baby goat. Get it, because then it'd be Billy the... yeah, you get it.

In reality they probably stuck four extra arms and a pair acid-excreting tentacles into a giant gorilla because that's just how places like this operate when they insist on getting inevitably wiped out. Well, we'll probably find out soon enough.

Before moving deeper into the facility though, let's go back and check that other door we passed.



Our powers of observation tell us that this served as an observation room of some kind. Let's see here...





At least it's a shorter list, if not an encouraging one. Seriously, who looks at hellhounds and basilisks and thinks "yeah I think these things aren't quite dangerous enough yet, they could use some enhancements"?






Risking a burnout or getting fired are genuine concerns in any average workplace, but these guys probably wouldn't find this particular wordplay very funny so let's just move on.






I have a hunch we already know what this poor creature ended up being called. But did nature get its revenge on arrogant man, or was the catalyst of this facility's ruin something else entirely?

No choice but to head on deeper if we want to find out, and so we'll do just that.



Both of the earlier paths converge in this larger room with a bunch more doors locked with panels, alongside a ladder leading to who-knows-where.





We first try out the two doors on the north side but both require clearance, levels "B" and "Executive" respectively. There's no hacking these doors either. Executive Wing is where we want to be, but I guess it figures that getting there won't be that easy.



The western door's panel is of more traditional design. We obviously don't have a keycard, but that's not necessarily an obstacle.



A computer in the network you say? With Decking 5 we could exploit this blatant security flaw, but since we lack all technological know-how we'll have to relegate the task to someone else.





Progress! We leave the mysterious ladder be for the time being and head on through the now open door.



Aw nuts, should've maybe taken that ladder after all.


NEW MUSIC: (also a slight volume warning, it starts very suddenly)



(One of the simpler combat themes, but it's got a good beat to it.)




Whatever happened here apparently didn't bring down the automated security, and so that job falls to us instead. We're up against pretty basic fare, a pair of attack drones and a single support one. The most noteworthy thing about these guys is that they all have 5 armor which makes Strip Armor particularly useful here.



"Geek the support drone first" doesn't quite have the same ring to it as the usual wisdom, but hasted Eiger complies nonetheless and manages to land all three of her shots like a pro. We know from experience that we don't want any of that unpleasant grenade and/or mortar business here.



The remaining attack drones strike back and while they're no Prime & Jade Rabbit, we still don't want to get crit by their 15 damage guns. Thus we make sure to keep our butt behind cover.



Here's a bad strategic decision for ya, opting for Lightning Ball against two heavily armored enemies behind cover instead of casting Strip Armor or a disable. It might look flashy, but our 12 damage spell is reduced to 4 and 0 damage respectively.

If only we were in a JRPG, everyone knows machine enemies in those are universally weak to lightning.



Eiger loses line of sight with her rifle and switches to close-range combat, lighting one of the drones on fire but otherwise getting similarly stymied in the damage front. The drone gets full cover bonus even from this position despite it visually looking otherwise, cheating bastard.



The outnumbered security fails to accomplish anything of note on their turn, so we continue dismantling them. If drones had emotions I might feel bad for the amount of abuse we've heaped on this one in particular. As it stands... eh.





Ultimately security measures of this caliber prove woefully inadequate against our collective might, and the way ahead is clear.







Right then. We have a few different ways to go from here, including the area we saw behind the glass in the observation room.



The door closest to us leads to ladder town with a ladder down, likely connected to the first one we saw. We've already met our sewer level quota, so we'll stick to ground-level exploration for the time being.



The observation chamber, or whatever you call it, contains a grand bounty of ¥55 lying on top of a closed pod. There's some blood spatters on the screen and desk nearby, but based on what we read that might just be the result of these guys' standard examination procedures.

Alright, let's check those double doors up there next.



Dum dee dum OH HOLKY gently caress





loving hell, don't just charge us completely out of nowhere like that! Are you out of your mind man?



That... that was really meant as a rhetorical question, but uh...

Er, anyway, did you take the shameful dumpster diving approach when entering the facility? Well if you thought you'd heard the last of it you're dead wrong, as in that case this encounter start slightly differently:


quote:

Y-you there! Who are you?

[He stalks toward you, his hands twitching. When he gets within a few feet of you, his nostrils flare and he begins to choke.]

Good LORD! W-what is that gut-churning *stench?*

Well, there was this dumpster...

No matter! I will suffer through it, for the good of my realm!

[His hands clench into fists, and his face goes beet red.]

As for you, foul vagrant... how *dare* you enter my domain?!


Easy there, pal. I thought that this lab was abandoned.

Abandoned?! This is my territory! My *home!* You are an invader in my territory, madam, and you have *murdered* my peasantry!

[Dietrich mutters under his breath.] We've got a live one here, boss.

[The man continues his rant without pausing for breath.]

You are a murderer! A monster! You will pay!

Well he did get two out of three right, gotta give him that. But that aside, what... exactly is happening all of a sudden?

Hold up. Who are you?



This... this is going to be something else, isn't it.

There's a strangely tempting choice here:



quote:

(Attack him.) All right, Your Majesty. Consider this a declaration of war.


But I guess we should try and er, establish diplomatic ties.

Slow down there, "Knight-King." What are you talking about?

I am the sovereign ruler of this building, now and forever!

[He puffs his chest out even further.]

By right of succession, the former laboratories of Sutterlin BioScience belong to *me!*

Succession? Who died?



Ask a stupid question and all that I suppose.

Once, I shared authority with another, my dear friend Heiner. Our duumvirate led this building into a golden age; together, we liberated the Animal Testing Labs and annexed them into our territory. But then Heiner got eaten by Billy, and the burden of leadership fell onto my shoulders.



I think the minds of everyone present are growing increasingly troubled the longer this conversation goes on.

Your "peasants" opened fire on me. I destroyed them in self-defense.

No! They wouldn't do that! They were gentle and kind! You're an outsider. You don't understand the bond of trust and respect that we shared!

Can't argue about that.

Well either way, I have good news for you, your highness. The door's open. You can leave now.

Leave?! Abandon my kingdom? Never! For I am a proud and benevolent ruler! This is *my* sovereign territory, and I will *never* abandon it!

Man oh man. This guy's a handful and a half, but we still have a job to do and "Philip Rex" here is the only one left who knows the place, if we can get him to cooperate. So let's try and play along for now.

All right, "sire." I'm sorry about your "peasants," but I'm on an important... um... "quest."



Tell me about this quest of yours, good madam. Leave nothing to the imagination!

[He leans forward, smiling.]

You have my rapt attention.

That's an uncomfortably high amount of attention, but we seem to have gotten on his good side somehow so let's just get to the point right away before he changes his mind again.

I need to get my hands on the bioware prototypes that are being stored in the Executive Wing.



I think I've read about this "Billy." He was Sutterlin's albino basilisk, right?

"Was" is right. Now he is so much more... a creature of legend! Years of experimentation have remade the beast into the ultimate killing machine. He's smarter than ten men, and five times as deadly!

If that's by local standards, I don't think we have much to be worried about.

If this "Billy" is standing in my way, I guess that I'll have to kill him.

[He snorts.] A fool's errand. Heiner tried to kill Billy once... he thought that by eating the beast, we could steal its power. Hubris. Billy devoured my friend for his insolence, and the last remaining copy of Keycard E was lost.



I have eaten nothing but vat-grown metahuman organs for a year and a half, stranger. I would kill for a choco nub.

Hold on, wh-... No, actually, no. We don't need to hear a single word more about this subject. We're just going to move right on and pretend we never heard that last bit.

I think that I've heard all that I need to about Billy. Just tell me how to get into the Executive Wing.





Using this, you can descend to the underworld and face Billy. If you should survive the encounter, search for the long-missing Keycard E. Use it to reopen the Executive Wing, and I will see to it that you are richly rewarded!



Back in control, we could go back and talk with Philip some more, but for the sake of preserving our own minds let's first check out the area he charged in from. Aside from some holding containers right out of a sci-fi horror movie and a bunch of computers which we can't make use of, there isn't anything of note in this section though.



The smaller room to the back does hold something we can interact with however.



Hmm, maybe this could give us a more reliable account on what exactly has been going down here in the past couple of years. Worth a shot at least, let's search the video archive and see what we get.





Could it be that "Philip Rex" over there is imitating the tone of this cheesy fantasy show? Wait, how many times has he watched these exactly?



Dear god, the poor bastard. What could've happened here that left him stranded in this nightmare existence of sustaining himself on cloned organs and bad Slovakian television? The oldest archive footage is from 18 months ago so it probably won't have the lockdown on it, but maybe we'll learn something else.










I'd be willing to bet that we can hold out for two to three months on what's stashed away in that snack bar. We're sure to be rescued before we run dry.



Philip, or Phil, is looking a lot less unhinged and unshaven here. It's almost weird seeing him like this.

The snacks are great and all, but they can't be our staple foodstuff. We need to stretch them out as far as humanly possible. And that means supplementing them with something more substantial.

[There is a long pause.]

You don't mean...?

Look, just think of it like farming, right? If we look after our crops, we'll always have food to eat. We have enough supplies on hand to keep the tissue cultures in the OrgChem Wing growing indefinitely. What I'm talking about is growing meat for our own survival. That's all it is.

*Metahuman* meat, Phil. Synthetic hearts and livers and kidneys, grown to be implanted into people like you and me. You're talking about eating people parts. It's loving disgusting, and I won't do it.



You're talking like they're never going to rescue us.

We're in Berlin, Heiner. What "they"? Who do you think is coming? We need to be prepared to survive here for a long time. Maybe years. And that means making the most of the resources at our disposal.

You're talking about resorting to cannibalism, man.

No. I'm talking about eating meat.



Guy was clearly sharp as a tack back then. Despite his rather goofy demeanor in the present, the circumstances are actually pretty drat tragic. What a horrible situation to be stuck in, and for so long.

The next bit of footage is from four months later, 14 months ago from the present.






[Heiner's voice crackles in over the intercom. Philip doesn't look up.]

I'm going now, Phil. No more arguments, okay?

[There is a long pause. In lieu of responding, Philip takes another bite of meat and gnashes at it with his teeth.]





We already know he never came back from that trip, though the part about eating it to gain its power appears to have been a slight embellishment. Phil was clearly having a hard time already, losing the only other human presence must've really done a number on him.

The next bit of footage is from three months later, 11 months ago from the present.








Indeed, some real cheesy fantasy theme is audible in the background of the video feed. Don't worry, I'll throw in a link to it later.



Oh, man! That's it, that's the show! I forgot how bad the dub job was!

[Philip stares, glassy-eyed, as the show begins. The synthesized music blares.]





Please make this stop.

My life is sworn to PROTECT those PEASANTS, she-elf! Run back to your enchanted trees if you will, but a KNIGHT-KING will *NEVER* flee!

[Her voice comes out in a lilting wail.] But Titonius! You cannot die! I... I *love* you!

Then go to your father, and beseech him to rally his elf-troops southward! For if TITONIUS REX falls, LIGHTNINGHOLD will fall! And Lightninghold WILL NOT FALL!



Truly, a fate worse than death. Almost makes you not want to watch the next bit of footage from three months later, 8 months from the present.








[Philip's lips move silently, mouthing the words as they are spoken. Evidently, he has committed the entire script to memory.]



[The breathy actress lets out a sharp gasp. Phil mimes the motion, and a tear begins to trace its way down his cheek.]

But Father! You can't mean...

Yes, my daughter. *I* was the one they called "THUNDERSPEAR" - the sworn enemy of Titonius Rex's people, the Honga barbarian tribe!

Then all of this is your fault! The Jubuthons, the threat to my beloved's soul... all of it!

It was the only way to save Trala-sheen, my darling daughter. Trala-sheen... and your *mother,* whom I hid away when you were but a girl. She's *still alive,* Brenna-thay!



I think we've seen enough. Too much, probably. But as one last thing let's take a look at today's footage, from when we invaded the kingdom.








Danger. Danger. Intruder Detected. Security Protocols Engaged.

[Philip rests a hand on top of the little drone.]

I admire your bravery, noble vassal. But this is *my* fight. I, Philip Rex, will defend this land with my life - indeed, with my very soul!

Sir: Please Clear the Area. Hostiles Inbound.

No, noble spirit. It is *you* who must...

I Repeat: Clear the Area. Hostiles Inbound.

[Philip nods slowly, his face beaming with pride.]

Maybe you're right. I am already Knight-King; perhaps this is *your* time to shine. I will not rob you of this moment of glory. I will allow you your moment in the sun! And when you return victorious, I will grant you lands and titles to reward your heroism.

Please Clear the Area.




Alright, that'll do for today. Next time we'll seek another audience with the Knight-King and then embark on our grand quest to rid the kingdom of the terrible monster making its nest in the darkest depths of the underworld.

We must, nay, we will succeed in our task. For riches, for glory, and for those who have fallen.

And above all else... for Lightninghold.

Fighting Trousers
May 17, 2011

Does this excite you, girl?
I'm pretty sure Billy and the Hellhounds opened for MESSERKAMPF! back in '34.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Kanfy posted:

Part 33 - Into the Sealed Realm

Please make this stop.

summarized the update for ya ;)

i love this bit

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Beautiful :allears:

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I can't believe I forgot about this mission, the memories are flooding back.

I wonder what was worse for the poor guy, only having that show for comfort or the fact that he never got to see the ending in the 400 times he watched them all

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
What will happen to our beloved Knight-King when he DRAWS that CURSED blade one FINAL time to defend his REALM and his BELOVED?

:ohdear:

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


This is probably the best mission in all of the Shadowrun games. And it's not even done yet.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Manic_Misanthrope posted:

This is probably the best mission in all of the Shadowrun games. And it's not even done yet.

There are some pretty great ones in Hong Kong. Taking a ghoul to a TV industry party comes to mind. Actually, that whole mission is good.

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Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Kanfy posted:

Good LORD! W-what is that gut-churning *stench?*

:v:

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
Can we not talk about future missions in the game and series at this point thank you kindly friends

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GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

This is probably the best mission in all of the Shadowrun games. And it's not even done yet.

:agreed:

While the aforementioned mission in Hong Kong and a couple more are written just as well, I won't go further into them now because of what Kanfy said above regarding spoilers and such. Suffice to say, this was one of my favorite missions in this game, just because of how over the top it is. And I doubt anyone who played this game will say otherwise.

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