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Put it this way: What better safeguard will we ever have? "Queen Elodie, why are the taxes so high?" "My dear burghers, they are necessary to keep that Kraken over there from eating your boats." * "Queen Elodie, why is everyone with a Lumen crystal pressed into royal service, their every move tracked?" "Kraken duty is every loyal Lumen's concern." * "Queen Elodie, your reign of terror is at an end!" "Oh, really? and what do you propose to do about the Kraken?" "Never mind." "Thought not. Throw him in the dungeon."
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So we blew the treasury on soldiers and ships we didn't use and which are useless against the kraken we ourselves raised, and our only options are to drive the kingdom into ruin to pay for the cost of fixing our mistake, or to take responsibility and sacrifice ourselves for the good of the people. To hell with the good of the people, we want to live! Try to seal the kraken, and get ready for a revolution.
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I want to see the outcome of the Sacrifice option.
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Seal it. It'll be nice to have around in case Shanjia builds another warfleet; we can just forget to renew the sealing enchantment for a month.
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We are all-in on magic this run, so let's go ahead and seal it.
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Seal it, and if that doesn't work, sacrifice the priestess, that's what they're there for, right?
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We did cause it, so the right and moral thing to do is probably to sacrifice ourselves to save our people. However, you don't become queen by being a good person who protects people. Seal it.
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So those hidden cruelty checks we chatted about like 80 pages ago--had we passed them could we have sacrificed our cousin?
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Probably could've sacrificed any of the known Lumens.
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gregory posted:So those hidden cruelty checks we chatted about like 80 pages ago--had we passed them could we have sacrificed our cousin? It wouldn't matter whether or not we passed those, just this one, just like failing an early skill check doesn't mean you can't pass a check for that same skill later. The earlier cruelty checks are helpful for knowing if you're on the right track for being able to sacrifice someone other than yourself, though: for example, if you are sad that some random servant died after stealing your chocolates, you are not going to be cruel enough to throw your cousin to the kraken.
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Note that sacrificing Charlotte while her mother is still alive sounds like a good way to discover the full extent of the latter's powers.
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Vadoc posted:Probably could've sacrificed any of the known Lumens. Not completely certain. Selene at least says that the kraken will only be sated by a child sacrifice: MegaZeroX posted:
The possibility exists that Selene is just lying to protect herself and/or her girlfriend from the Tuxedo Princess's wrath, though.
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This game is called Long Live the Queen, not Sacrifice the Queen-to-Be and Be on Your Merry Way. Seal the Kraken.
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Pittsburgh Lambic posted:Not completely certain. Selene at least says that the kraken will only be sated by a child sacrifice: Even if she were lying, if we said "Hey, Selene, what about you?" she could just say "A Lumen priestess has to perform the rituals!" (and that might even be true) and if we said "Then what about Julianna?" she might refuse to help. (Or, worse, refuse either to help us sacrifice Julianna or to help us seal the kraken non-sacrificially.) There's Lucille, but we have no reason to think she won't try to kill us for suggesting it. The wife-strangler is dead, but even if we'd let him escape we know he'd just try to kill us if we even let on that we knew he was a Lumen. We don't know of any other Lumens, since Elodie 3.0 doesn't know that Togami is a Lumen or that her father is a potential Lumen. (I mean, Charlotte's siblings are presumably also potential Lumens, but if we're not cruel enough to sacrifice her I can't imagine we'd be cruel enough to sacrifice them, and if we were okay with sacrificing her we could just, you know, sacrifice her.)
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zonohedron posted:Even if she were lying, if we said "Hey, Selene, what about you?" she could just say "A Lumen priestess has to perform the rituals!" (and that might even be true) and if we said "Then what about Julianna?" she might refuse to help. (Or, worse, refuse either to help us sacrifice Julianna or to help us seal the kraken non-sacrificially.) There's Lucille, but we have no reason to think she won't try to kill us for suggesting it. The wife-strangler is dead, but even if we'd let him escape we know he'd just try to kill us if we even let on that we knew he was a Lumen. We don't know of any other Lumens, since Elodie 3.0 doesn't know that Togami is a Lumen or that her father is a potential Lumen. (I mean, Charlotte's siblings are presumably also potential Lumens, but if we're not cruel enough to sacrifice her I can't imagine we'd be cruel enough to sacrifice them, and if we were okay with sacrificing her we could just, you know, sacrifice her.) Not to mention how exactly our Lumen Minister might react to us sacrificing her daughter. Speaking of which, after we finish/die next, and after we do the naval battle with boats, I wanna go back in time to the ball and accuse Lucille. Something was fishy there and I didn't like it back then.
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HGH posted:Not to mention how exactly our Lumen Minister might react to us sacrificing her daughter. We could save accusing Lucille for an Elodie who plans to duel Togami directly, too. (Or MegaZeroX may have a planned route through the game that involves accusing Lucille; if he doesn't, and if he doesn't just go back and accuse Lucille, I'd be interested in showing that off (and incidentally passing a few other skill checks we've failed along the way).) zonohedron fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 10, 2014 |
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Seal it, I wonder if we'll end as a prisoner of some new monarch/government, whose life is worth something as long as the ritual is performed.
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Seal it. I was originally going to go with sacrifice since after the (probable) death we could just go back and take the alternative or even further back and send the expensive navy that we bankrupted Nova to build.
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Ephemeron posted:Given that our subjects are already writing hilarious/horrible poems about Elodie and the squid, I vote to seal. This is possibly the best post in this thread that didn't involve a picture of Joslyn in a Magical Girl Outfit. I'm going to second this vote.
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Voting is closed.
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Outfit Magical Girl: 1 Tux: 1 - Won via RNG Uniform: 1 Kraken Try to seal it: 36 Sacrifice Yourself: 21
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Magic got us into this, it can get us out. Seal that bugger up! EDIT: Bah, just missed the vote!
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I can't see how anything could help us right now, but might as well continue with public speaking.
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CommissarMega posted:Magic got us into this, it can get us out. Seal that bugger up! At least you voted for the winning side? ![]() Let's study Reflexes x2.
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Decoration x2 Cause why not? Can I still make my anti-tux vote, or is that already determined because I thought we were just voting for our decision to seal the kraken.
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Uh, ciphering and poison. Yeah.
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Broenheim posted:Decoration x2 Cause why not? You can vote for outfits still, people can vote for mood/outfit whenever they want. Though I think Elodie 2.1's death scarred you too much. You need to learn how to trust the tux again, so I'm going to throw in a vote for the tux. We need to look like we are rich so people still think we are!
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MegaZeroX posted:You can vote for outfits still, people can vote for mood/outfit whenever they want. Though I think Elodie 2.1's death scarred you too much. You need to learn how to trust the tux again, so I'm going to throw in a vote for the tux. We need to look like we are rich so people still think we are! Never! The tux betrayed us! I'd rather die then wear that hideous monstrosity.
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MegaZeroX posted:You can vote for outfit still, people can vote for mood/outfit whenever they want. I think Elodie 2.1's death scarred you too much. You need to learn how to trust the tux again, so I'm going to throw in a vote for the tux. We need to look like we are rich so people still think we are! I'm convinced! Wear the tux and visit the treasury this weekend so we know how long it'll be before we're rich again!
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In Tux We Trust to deliver us from the kraken. Also let's study public speaking x1 and reflexes x1.
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2x Running because boy howdy the proletariat's gonna be angry, and those fuckers with pitchforks move fast Also, wear the magical girl outfit to make dead damned sure the sealing works (can a skill check go over 100? i don't care wear it anyway)
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We're going to hit a wall with public speaking, so we should do flattery and court manners on the side.
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Ciphering*2 and see if we can unlock the intel garb.
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FelistheIdiot posted:We're going to hit a wall with public speaking, so we should do flattery and court manners on the side. Also down with the treasonous tux.
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The way I see it we can fix this either through some sweet public speaking, or by becoming an economics wizard and earning enough cash to keep Plan Kraken going long enough. Given our skills, the plan to most likely to succeed is economics, so study that and wear the tux for the extra bonus.
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AJ_Impy posted:Ciphering*2 and see if we can unlock the intel garb. This.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:The way I see it we can fix this either through some sweet public speaking, or by becoming an economics wizard and earning enough cash to keep Plan Kraken going long enough. Given our skills, the plan to most likely to succeed is economics, so study that and wear the tux for the extra bonus. Yup, yup. I second everything here.
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Be a magical girl and learn public speaking so we can convince the rabble to back us for seven years of magicking
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# ? Jun 17, 2024 21:53 |
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We still have no idea what to look out for, so I guess we can just dump points into random poo poo. Lore x2, though I'm not sure if that'll help us at all now.
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