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Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
how do i start selling carbon credits?

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Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

well there’s a king of the hill episode which serves as a nice tutorial

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

Mameluke posted:

how do i start selling carbon credits?

start a payment company with another evil man, then go on to find a small electric car startup and buy into them and force them to call you an original founder, and then base most of your revenue off of selling credits to other car manufacturers

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Mameluke posted:

how do i start selling carbon credits?

First you gotta buy some to sell. PM me, I'll get you started on my innovative poly-tier carbon credit selling program, you'll be rich like me in weeks!

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Mameluke posted:

how do i start selling carbon credits?

Store your farts in jars.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




elon makes a car (creating lots of carbon in manufacturing, that runs on electricity from burning carbon), sells it, and then sells a credit to gm so they can make a truck with 6 mpg highway

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Ornery and Hornery posted:

well there’s a king of the hill episode which serves as a nice tutorial

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeVRktoDV-I

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
what regulations define how a carbon credit is proven or audited, can't i just sell them?

Wolfy
Jul 13, 2009

the position of this thread is that you should not wrap yourself in tin foil and get in the microwave

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Mameluke posted:

what regulations define how a carbon credit is proven or audited, can't i just sell them?

this is a neoliberal hellscape, there's not just one market or one regulation, there's multitude!

so you have government defined markets, like the one in CA or the one in the EU. they each have their own loopholes and gimmicks so if your dumb idea doesn't work on one, try the other! in CA you can get enough credit for reducing coal mine methane that it makes you mine more coal. in the EU sawdust is considered carbon neutral no matter how big the carbon costs of transporting it.

but if your dumb idea is so dumb neither of them will take it, why there are just the accredited credits markets, like Aspiration Planet Protect™ uses. these just have some random rear end NGO do some paperwork and declare it a legit carbon credit.


and don't forget carbon credits are just one kind of climate credit, there are renewable energy credits, fuel economy credits, and more

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

also i think that credit card just does a flat "plant 60 trees per person and call it even" lol

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Trabisnikof posted:

also i think that credit card just does a flat "plant 60 trees per person and call it even" lol

they probably do literally nothing

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

scary ghost dog posted:

they probably do literally nothing

Not literally nothing, someone has to collect the free money.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Trabisnikof posted:

but if your dumb idea is so dumb neither of them will take it, why there are just the accredited credits markets, like Aspiration Planet Protect™ uses. these just have some random rear end NGO do some paperwork and declare it a legit carbon credit.

hell yes this is the ruse i want to learn more about

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

scary ghost dog posted:

they probably do literally nothing

well they certainly dont actually do anything, but i think theyre not even pretending to purchase carbon credits after the 60th transaction per year

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Mameluke posted:

hell yes this is the ruse i want to learn more about

like do you own a farm, preferably in NY?

what about a bunch of timber land?

do you currently generate a bunch of co2 or methane emissions?

can you pretend to take credit for a bunch of other people's actions, like a car company or a gig economy app?

if so, riches are just a small initial payment away!



just send your banking info to:

Climate Change Solutions INC
P. O. Box 4791
Houston, TX 77210-4791

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Mameluke posted:

how do i start selling carbon credits?
i dunno but I bet it involves a blockchain

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
drat, I missed page 1158 (BC) :(


Edit: The Bronze Age collapse was 1177. See ya in 19 pages with more white noise!

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I work at a restaurant. something I think about a lot -- I mean like a lot -- at work is how I can immediately tell the difference between new containers and used containers just by handling them. we use plastic for basically everything, glass is just for serving, metal is for cooking. new containers are this hard smooth plastic that's slick to the touch, used containers are opaque and "fuzzy" textured, almost soft cottony feeling. It doesn't matter if it's a salsa jug or a bus tub, I can tell right away if we acquired it within the past 4 months or if it's been one that's been in use for the past 5 years. every time it goes through the dish wash station it gets softer and fuzzier

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




thats the special ingredient

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
I just learned that my old biology professor from college, the one who repeatedly told the class "sorry my generation killed yours" and "it's too late to save the climate" died recently.

I still remember being in class thinking he was an alarmist nutjob.

rip to a real one

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Trabisnikof posted:

do you currently generate a bunch of co2 or methane emissions?

:homebrew:

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
I'm reading the collapse of western civilization by naomi oreskes and erik m. conway after seeing it recommended in the thread and while i don't particularly care for the style or the fact that it looks like a fox news style political tract, it has helped me to understand some things

it points out some ways in which modern science is ill equipped to handle this challenge because of the modern specialization of scientific fields discouraging broad, cross disciplinary studies. this means that chemists might miss stuff happening that meteorologists could help them puzzle out. it also talks about how scientists don't want to make type i errors in favor of type ii errors



i think this explains some of how the response to covid has been botched by the scientific community as well. this sort of thinking seems wrong to me and i think a scientific community that could make errors and talk to the public like adults would be much better than the needle-dicks running the public health responses now.

the book also talks about how climate language isn't person centric in media and blames "deforestation" or "drilling" as causes rather than the true cause, the action of people (and obv capital).

honestly, reading this in a calm tenor has been helpful to understand that I'm not crazy and the climate is really strongly affected by human behavior. unfortunately, it's further crack pinged me.

unrelated, but i was about to get all the climate related books from my public library. make sure to use your library card.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://abcnews.go.com/US/humans-consume-equivalent-credit-card-worth-plastic-week/story?id=63687144

quote:

The consumption of plastic has become unavoidable in recent years, but a new report is proving just how much humans are ingesting on a regular basis.

People are consuming about 5 grams of plastic every week, which is the equivalent of a credit card, according to an analysis by the World Wildlife Fund and carried out by the University of Newcastle in Australia.

That equates to about 21 grams of plastic per month and just over 250 grams per year, the report states.

The single largest source of plastic ingestion is through water, both bottled and tap, the analysis found. Other consumables with the highest recorded plastic levels include shellfish, beer and salt.

While the numbers are realistic in range, the consensus among specialists is that further studies re required to obtain a more precise estimate, the report states.

In the Australian study, researchers combined more than 50 studies on the ingestion of microplastic by humans to further understand the impact of plastic pollution on human health. The findings will help scientists determine the potential toxicological risks for humans going forward, said Dr. Thava Palanisami, microplastic researcher at the University of Newcastle, in a statement.

The long-term effects of ingesting large quantities of plastic are unclear, but studies are underway, according to the report.

The problem can only be solved by addressing the root cause of plastic pollution, said WWF International Director General Marco Lambertini, in a statement.

“These findings must serve as a wake-up call to governments," Lambertini said. "Not only are plastics polluting our oceans and waterways and killing marine life -- it’s in all of us and we can’t escape consuming plastics. Global action is urgent and essential to tackling this crisis."

Since 2000, more plastic has been produced worldwide that all the preceding years combined, and about a third of the plastic ends up in nature, according to the report.

The WWF is urging the public to sign a petition calling for a legally binding treaty on marine plastics pollution. The petition has garnered more than 700,000 signatures so far.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

gee i wonder what happens when humans injest shitton of endocrine disruptors even woven into fetal tissues

surely it's nothing bad. banning plastics would be ableism anyways. carry on

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
we were doomed from the moment the first person had the idea to refine oil

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Only 5g?


https://www.uscreditcardguide.com/the-most-heavy-credit-cards-list/

Barry Soteriology
Mar 1, 2020
i paid for 5 grams in my food and water, i want all 5 grams. pony up, you thieves.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


if u dont want me to eat all that plastic then can someone explain how im supposed to get the bottled water out of its shell

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Shipon posted:

we were doomed from the moment the first person had the idea to make fire

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



visionaries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

plastic Georg outlier etc but still how the hell is plastic in salt

Lost Time
Sep 28, 2012

All necessities, provided. All anxieties, tranquilized. All boredom, amused.
Welp

https://twitter.com/Quicktake/status/1433907169783652352

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
lol lmao

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
plastic pollution is the thing that cracks my brain the hardest

there was never a plan to deal with the pollution, just "recycle lol"

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

Homocow posted:

plastic pollution is the thing that cracks my brain the hardest

there was never a plan to deal with the pollution, just "recycle lol"

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Homocow posted:

plastic pollution is the thing that cracks my brain the hardest

there was never a plan to deal with the pollution, just "recycle lol"

The messaging was reduce, reuse, recycle in the 80s. Then capitalism said nah

/\ foiled again

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

Refuse, Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle

chew on it, burn it, inhale deeply, buy more

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Homocow posted:

just "recycle lol"

This was a plan to head off plastic bans in the 70s, by the plastic industry.

Plastics!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXW8tTybwHE

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HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull



gently caress off. the current world state of affairs was not inevitable and was not dictated by 'natural laws' or whatever; the whole nasty/brutish/short state of nature meme is perpetuated by capital because it benefits capital, not because that's how human beings actually act when society is stripped away

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