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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Update your 5S to iOS12 and watch it poo poo itself and then Apple will say 'yeah that hardware is just so old you know' and try to sell you a new phone.

Also android gets os updates all the time and it's not hard to update to the latest one or even root the phone and install whatever you want?

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Inept
Jul 8, 2003

5s works fine in 12. Also recommending custom roms in 2019 lol

Apple is a poo poo company but their software support of their mobile devices is a lot better than android at this stage

SleepySonata
Mar 3, 2010
Just have a burner instead of paying 100$ for a phone because if you're not mainlining phone updates you're either too old or sketch?

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

MarcusSA posted:

Also waterproofing.

my android phone is supposedly water proof (haven't tested that claim) and still has a headphone jack

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

LordArgh posted:

my android phone is supposedly water proof (haven't tested that claim) and still has a headphone jack
DUNK IT

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Moridin920 posted:

Update your 5S to iOS12 and watch it poo poo itself and then Apple will say 'yeah that hardware is just so old you know' and try to sell you a new phone.

Actually, a 5S runs best on iOS 12 than any other OS release to date. About on par with iOS 10 except with more features and an improved UI. Way better than iOS 11.

I'm not saying that Apple isn't a lovely abusive company trying their best to sell you a new phone every 2 years because they absolutely are, but uh, you're really reaching here.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 4, 2019

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
My phone with a jack had waterproofing like 2 years before iPhones did and considering that was really the only feature I cared about and the phone itself was 1/8th the price, lol

They're not waterproof but you can submerge them in a meter for like half an hour and they'll be fine. It's fun running a faucet over it and watching people trip.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Updated: Oct 24, 2018 19:48:14

Italy’s competition authority on Wednesday said it was fining Apple and Samsung 10 and five million euros ($11.5 and $5.7 million) respectively for the so-called “planned obsolescence” of their smartphones.

The ruling is believed to be the first against the manufacturers following accusations worldwide that they encourage operating system updates for older phones which slow them down, thereby encouraging the purchase of new phones.

Two “complex investigations” by the anti-trust authority AGCM revealed that Apple and Samsung implemented unfair commercial practices, a statement said.

“The two companies have induced consumers to install software updates that are not adequately supported by their devices, without adequately informing them, nor providing them an effective way to recover the full functionality of their devices,” the AGCM said.


:shrug:

It's just a phone and you're paying a huge mark up for it idk what to say really.

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014
Lol at people paying the big bux for a social media and porn machine.

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
Those god drat ivory tower elitists with their walled garden phones that can't even download anime torrents! :reject:

Which is what it basically boils down to.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Is there really no torrent client for iOS?

SleepySonata
Mar 3, 2010

ChazTurbo posted:

Lol at people paying the big bux for a social media and porn machine.

I do like that I can shoot my porn in 1080HD 60frames. You can see every folical on my rear end in a top hat, and apparently some people like that.

coke
Jul 12, 2009

Rutibex posted:

you are so close to figuring it out. tell me, if planned obsolescence isnt the goal why does apple prevent people from removing the back plate and replacing the battery?

you definitely still can open the backplate and replace the battery, just that it's much more integrated into the design due to them not having the space for a battery 'slot' without exposing all the other components



and lol @ people still thinking the throttling is some sort of planned obsolescence instead of physics

Here are the voltage curve after certain amount of charge/discharge cycle


And here are the voltage drop under heavy load on a new processor


People were complaining about their phone shutting down due to heavy cpu load on old batteries drops the voltage too much and causing instability, so they implement the throttle to prevent that but people still complained.


It's good for clickbait news cycle for idiots i guess.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah it's not like multiple courts have fined them or anything lol

Why not just let people replace their battery

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Apple fans remind me of Buttcoiners. "No, you see, this is good for Apple because"

frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.

sebmojo posted:

Taking out the headphone jack is all about plugging the analog hole and selling airpods, nothing to do with internal space.

Yep. Some guy on YouTube installed a headphone jack on his iPhone 7 and it fit and worked just fine, proving the whole thing bullshit. They also try to claim that no headphone jack is necessary to make the phone waterproof but that too is bullshit because there are waterproof devices with headphone ports. Also the fact that the iPhone has plenty of other holes for the speakers, ear piece, mic, and power and volume buttons proves it bullshit too.

New Apple laptops have zero USB ports and you need a loving adapter to plug anything in lmfao

Oh and the keyboard literally breaks from a speck of dust. Like a speck of dust actually renders the entire bottom half of the laptop useless and has to be completely replaced. Meanwhile I'm still easily replacing my ThinkPad keyboard 7 years after I bought the laptop

I also lol at Apple defenders that think that there's some big issue with using old Android devices on an older Android OS. I still have an android gaming device that is on loving Kit Kat (5 major Android revisions ago, and about 75 security updates ago) and I have never had a security issue with it ever. Unlike ios, these old versions of Android still allow you to update the apps themselves no matter what Android OS you are on, so if Chrome has the security issue, you still get that updated no matter how old the Android OS. Do you know how many loving iOS apps refuse to allow you to install or update an app because my loving town's newspaper app refuses to let you install on anything lower than ios12 on an iPad Pro for fucks sake? And why am I not allowed to use YouTube in my iPad 2 any more when it used to loving work? They don't let you update it either. Apple is such a loving joke.

frh fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 5, 2019

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:

New Apple laptops have zero USB ports and you need a loving adapter to plug anything in lmfao

Um, no?

frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.

One lighting port or whatever the gently caress they call it doesn't count

You know the thing that nothing besides Android phones and external gpus use

I've literally never seen a mouse, keyboard, hard drive, or flash drive in my entire life that was USB-C

But hey it made the laptop 0.0001mm thinner so it's worth having to carry dongles everywhere I guess

There's been so many times that having an SD card slot in my laptop saved my rear end, I can't loving imagine no USB ports lmao

frh fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 5, 2019

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:

One lighting port or whatever the gently caress they call it doesn't count

You know the thing that nothing besides Android phones and external gpus use

I've literally never seen a mouse, keyboard, hard drive, or flash drive in my entire life that was USB-C

But hey it made the laptop 0.0001mm thinner so it's worth having to carry dongles everywhere I guess

There's been so many times that having an SD card slot in my laptop saved my rear end, I can't loving imagine no USB ports lmao

I just use CD-Rs to transfer files.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:

New Apple laptops have zero USB ports and you need a loving adapter to plug anything in lmfao

I thought you were exaggerating, and that it made sense the Macbook Air only had a weird little Thunderbolt port. Then I checked Apple's website and LOL no, all their laptops, including the Macbook Pro, only have those dumb little ports. Want to make use of one of the gajillion thumb drives out there to move files? You need a dongle. So amazingly bad that I thought it was a joke.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I thought you were exaggerating, and that it made sense the Macbook Air only had a weird little Thunderbolt port. Then I checked Apple's website and LOL no, all their laptops, including the Macbook Pro, only have those dumb little ports. Want to make use of one of the gajillion thumb drives out there to move files? You need a dongle. So amazingly bad that I thought it was a joke.

They use USB C, it's like the most non-proprietary thing Apple has ever done, you're acting like they designed their own InfiniBand connector as the only port on the laptop. Also USB C flash drives are plentiful, many even have USB C and USB A connectors on them.

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
:wtc:

The new Macs use usb-c. You know, the same connector on most current Android phones?

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
I don't even know what weird poo poo the Apple haters in this thread are going on about now. So weird.

The new Macbooks have USB-C ports only, which is a whole other can of worms because I don't think a USB-C only laptop is ready for primetime just yet. I don't really like the design of the newer Macbook Pros at all, which is why I'm sticking with my old 2013 model forever. A laptop with USB-C and USB-A ports too is the way to go imo, but Apple is very far from the only company pushing USB-C heavily. Dell's latest XPS 13 has only USB-C ports, which got lots and lots of backlash just like Apple did for the same decision.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Mar 5, 2019

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Cough Drop The Beat posted:

Dell's latest XPS 13 has only USB-C ports, which got lots and lots of backlash just like Apple did for the same decision.

As they should - it is a terrible design choice. Even on phones I think USB-C is dumb and generally a hassle since it still represents a tiny fraction of the number of cables and ports that devices use. Micro-USB certainly has its issues but at least it is loving common and finding a cable or charger is fast, cheap, and easy.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









coke posted:


It's good for clickbait news cycle for idiots i guess.

And multi million euro court damages findings

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

CaptainSarcastic posted:

As they should - it is a terrible design choice. Even on phones I think USB-C is dumb and generally a hassle since it still represents a tiny fraction of the number of cables and ports that devices use. Micro-USB certainly has its issues but at least it is loving common and finding a cable or charger is fast, cheap, and easy.

Micro usb is terrible and it’s been around forever of course the cables are cheap.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Me reading this thread:

Android? More like angeroid.

Iphone? More like ipwned

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

sebmojo posted:

And multi million euro court damages findings

Apple has to pay $11.5 million in damages for defrauding the public. Let's see, Apple has $1 trillion (a quarter of which is just cash reserves) and even rich individuals can probably mostly guarantee a 10% return rate per year on investments. So assuming Apple can do that too, this business practice that launched them to the moon now has a penalty that will take them...

...one hour to recover by earning interest. Hope all that time in court was worth it Europe, you really punished them this time

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Apple has to pay $11.5 million in damages for defrauding the public. Let's see, Apple has $1 trillion (a quarter of which is just cash reserves) and even rich individuals can probably mostly guarantee a 10% return rate per year on investments. So assuming Apple can do that too, this business practice that launched them to the moon now has a penalty that will take them...

...one hour to recover by earning interest. Hope all that time in court was worth it Europe, you really punished them this time

They should do whag china dioes and exwcute some of the executives too

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Dumb Lowtax posted:

Apple has to pay $11.5 million in damages for defrauding the public. Let's see, Apple has $1 trillion (a quarter of which is just cash reserves) and even rich individuals can probably mostly guarantee a 10% return rate per year on investments. So assuming Apple can do that too, this business practice that launched them to the moon now has a penalty that will take them...

...one hour to recover by earning interest. Hope all that time in court was worth it Europe, you really punished them this time

you're right our cyberpunk overlords have us over a barrel lol

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

They should do whag china dioes and exwcute some of the executives too

apple has 132,000 employees even if they shot one a day it would be 180 years before they even got half way through, nice try you absolute imbecile, you numbnuts

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

sebmojo posted:

apple has 132,000 employees even if they shot one a day it would be 180 years before they even got half way through, nice try you absolute imbecile, you numbnuts

I said executives, not employees

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
https://www.apple.com/leadership/

Also, nowadays ypu can shoot bullets a lot faster than one a day

Any halfeay decent triggerman I could finish this lot by lunchtime

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

sebmojo posted:

you're right our cyberpunk overlords have us over a barrel lol

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

I said executives, not employees

Yeah but it's like the seventh in command isis guy, they all just move up one place when you pull the trigger

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Better start pulling it fast then

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

CaptainSarcastic posted:

As they should - it is a terrible design choice. Even on phones I think USB-C is dumb and generally a hassle since it still represents a tiny fraction of the number of cables and ports that devices use. Micro-USB certainly has its issues but at least it is loving common and finding a cable or charger is fast, cheap, and easy.

Nah, micro-USB is literal garbage and I hate it. USB-C is more than fine on phones and tablets because it's a reversible, easier to use faster charging cable that isn't slow as balls for data transfer like old rear end micro-USB. It's absolutely what all phones should have going forward... but legacy USB-A ports should still stick around on laptops for quite some time until you don't need to pull out an adapter for that older hard drive, printer, or mouse that everyone has.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Mar 5, 2019

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Dumb Lowtax posted:

Better start pulling it fast then

due process is important

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

sebmojo posted:

due process is important

Tell that to all the blown up isis guys

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
My new Android has a usbc and while it was lame replacing my chargers it does seem to charge a lot faster and the reversable is nice

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