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I remain unconvinced by these arguments, and will continue to piss standing up, and posting while doing so.
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The Perfect Element posted:Becocked sit-pissers, please explain to me why you sit down to piss. I don't understand it at all. In fact, I think being able to piss accurately while standing up is perhaps the greatest thing about having a penis. Makes it easier to post, also just a chance for a little rest. Why would you stand up?
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A pro-smacking charity lol wtf. Will be donating all my endorsement money as a professional poster to a pro-sitdowntopiss charity
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keep punching joe posted:I'm a stand up guy. I'd poo poo standing up if it wasn't socially unacceptable. Squatting is the superior making GBS threads position. ThomasPaine posted:That they became the big Other in the Third Reich was actually a bit of a bizarre ideological development at the global level, but you have to understand that as the product of a very complex set of conditions specific to Germany, not the fault of one individual. The other half was native German, but every time they tried to found a pure Aryan colony free of Jewish influence during that proto-nazi period they all got cholera and shat themselves to death. lmao Bernhard Förster
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The Perfect Element posted:Becocked sit-pissers, please explain to me why you sit down to piss. I don't understand it at all. In fact, I think being able to piss accurately while standing up is perhaps the greatest thing about having a penis. I am informed by someone with whom I had a full and frank discussion on the topic that you get 'back flows'.
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My parents didn't smack me & I turned out all kinds of hosed up, checkmate libs 
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Also if anyone understands the biological phenomenon where it doesn't matter how long you take & how absolutely sure you are you've finished pissing, you tuck everything away & then immediately there's a final dribble, please explain because God drat
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Borrovan posted:Also if anyone understands the biological phenomenon where it doesn't matter how long you take & how absolutely sure you are you've finished pissing, you tuck everything away & then immediately there's a final dribble, please explain because God drat Not enough flow for the final stretch.
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Borrovan posted:Also if anyone understands the biological phenomenon where it doesn't matter how long you take & how absolutely sure you are you've finished pissing, you tuck everything away & then immediately there's a final dribble, please explain because God drat gotta keep up your kegels my man
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Borrovan posted:Also if anyone understands the biological phenomenon where it doesn't matter how long you take & how absolutely sure you are you've finished pissing, you tuck everything away & then immediately there's a final dribble, please explain because God drat Try wringing it out like a dishcloth.
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Okay so in relation to child smacking there is a weird other side to it. Now obviously I'm not in favour of smacking children to discipline them. Since at the end of the day it's just a stronger person (adult) using violence on a weaker one (child) which is just awful. HOWEVER....as many parents (and I know there are some in this thread) can attest there is this really weird biological imperative to perform aggression on children. Now I know having said this most of you will be reaching for the  or  emojis, but hear me out.Parents or grand parents or uncles/aunts around kids are very often struck by these weird desires to do physical sorts of play with kids which if done between two adults would be like the beginings of a fight. I'm talking about stuff like the urge to pick up children and hold them above your head, tickling, pretending to "eat" children, pincing cheeks, rubbing them on the head. These are all playful, normal developmental behavior between parents/Guardians and their children. But it seems to be rooted in some almost animal level of logic of "use violence to establish I am more dominant than you." (Sort of like how dogs when playing will try and put their teeth around another dogs neck. And how babies will often start laughing when they see a dog showing teeth. It's a fear response.) Again I'm not saying that we should trash children with belts or anything. But that from a biological point of view, we probably do want to be aggressive around kids. And it's generations of civilization that is making us hold ourselves back from doing it.
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Don't know why we still use this literally centuries old plumbing tech. Haven't NASA developed some sort of vacuum pipe?The Question IRL posted:Parents or grand parents or uncles/aunts around kids are very often struck by these weird desires to do physical sorts of play with kids which if done between two adults would be like the beginings of a fight. Wtf sort of fights have you been in? keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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The Question IRL posted:Okay so in relation to child smacking there is a weird other side to it. right, yeah
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The Question IRL posted:But that from a biological point of view, we probably do want to be aggressive around kids. And it's generations of civilization that is making us hold ourselves back from doing it. I feel like you may have this a bit backwards, we're not biologically predisposed to anything, literally all of our behaviours are the product of our social world in one form or another.
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^^^ I think he's saying it's a natural urge to teach young how to play fight, like dogs or lions. Which would make sense if we lived in a field and hunted raw meat and fought each other bare fisted for territory, which we don't. Anyway, our parents used to hit us, and then my mam trained as a playgroup leader and learned in great detail why you shouldn't, so they stopped when I was in my early teens. Which means I have the unconscious urge to hit things when they frustrate me from early childhood and impotent rage at having to not hit things from being a teen. Worst of both worlds! Unfortunately there were no books/ courses about teaching your child that love is unconditional. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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ThomasPaine posted:I feel like you may have this a bit backwards, we're not biologically predisposed to anything, literally all of our behaviours are the product of our social world in one form or another. then where did the first social norms come from?
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ThomasPaine posted:I feel like you may have this a bit backwards, we're not biologically predisposed to anything, literally all of our behaviours are the product of our social world in one form or another. Agreed, my balls never flinched until I read about the cremasteric reflex, now they can't stop jiggling! But no really this is a weird and dumb take
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from?
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If smacking isn't allowed, what about Hadoukens? As kids the fear was put into us by mum of the wooden spoon.
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from? Big monolith said so
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I'd argue that as a society we've been trained to love violence and retribution while also have a massive deference to those who dish it out to us, so the only outlet is those weaker than us. Nae biological imperative,just power.
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The Question IRL posted:
They're idiots, loving morons.
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The Question IRL posted:Okay so in relation to child smacking there is a weird other side to it. I would say personally that I hated having those things done to me as a child and thus, as an adult, I would not feel the impulse to do them to children because I would expect the child to also hate it, and it seems like a very weird idea and I don't at all buy that it is "biological" to want to do that. To be perfectly honest I think you should observe as much as possible, the same degree of personal boundaries with your child that you would with any other human, not least because this is behaviour they should learn and demonstrate with others. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:I'd argue that as a society we've been trained to love violence and retribution while also have a massive deference to those who dish it out to us, so the only outlet is those weaker than us. Nae biological imperative,just power. yup abusive societies produce abusive people
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from? Xenu.
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I was smacked by my dad when I did something particularly ‘naughty’. I don’t really bear him any ill will over it, and he’s very much of a different generation- he was a prefect and caned younger boys at school for example. Last time I can remember it happening was when I was seven and had amused myself while doing homework by stabbing my pencil multiple times quite deeply into the surface of the kitchen table. He smacked me six times, I cried and sure as poo poo didn’t do it again. My mum however once the menopause struck would go loving mental and attack me. I can remember walking down the Appian Way in Rome aged fifteen with her screaming, slapping and kicking me because she thought I was hunching over to spite her (?)- I have curvature of the spine which was /much/ worse when I was a teen. That I /do/ still bear a lot of anger over. Tbh her psycho-fits only stopped when I ended up grabbing her and physically throwing her (literally) out of my room when I was about 17. So yeah, there’s a difference between discipline and abuse but frankly I don’t trust most people to know where that line is at the best of times so better just to avoid totally.
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from? The first oval office to realise he was bigger and stronger than the other cunts.
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from? The immediate material needs of hunter gatherer societies, I would imagine. Which then changed as those societies developed and exerted new pressures on their members. Existence precedes essence, and all that, if you want to get wanky about it. Failed Imagineer posted:Agreed, my balls never flinched until I read about the cremasteric reflex, now they can't stop jiggling! Come on now I'm obviously talking about interpersonal behaviour, which is absolutely not fixed and is far more influenced by environment than biology. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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Clean Your Teeth posted:then where did the first social norms come from? Social Norman, obviously.
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ThomasPaine posted:if you want to get wanky about it. you do know where you're posting?
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Under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. We have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. We have never seen a totally sane human being.Jedit posted:Social Norman 
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Camrath posted:I was smacked by my dad when I did something particularly ‘naughty’. I don’t really bear him any ill will over it, and he’s very much of a different generation- he was a prefect and caned younger boys at school for example. Last time I can remember it happening was when I was seven and had amused myself while doing homework by stabbing my pencil multiple times quite deeply into the surface of the kitchen table. He smacked me six times, I cried and sure as poo poo didn’t do it again. what your dad did to you was also abuse, just less so
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There really isn't anything that you cannot teach people by means other than violence, so the use of violence as a method of instruction is entirely for the gratification of the person doing it.
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The Question IRL posted:I'm talking about stuff like the urge to pick up children and hold them above your head, tickling, pretending to "eat" children, pincing cheeks, rubbing them on the head. Apart from pinching cheeks, which I don't do, because it seems a bit violent & I find the idea of violence towards her physically repellent, which kind of undermines your thesis
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OwlFancier posted:There really isn't anything that you cannot teach people by means other than violence, so the use of violence as a method of instruction is entirely for the gratification of the person doing it. sans the bourgeoise, ofc
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He's not saying there's anything wrong with doing violence to the bourgeoise just that it's gratifying
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I'm going to seize all their noses.OwlFancier posted:There really isn't anything that you cannot teach people by means other than violence, so the use of violence as a method of instruction is entirely for the gratification of the person doing it.
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ThomasPaine posted:sans the bourgeoise, ofc Even then I don't think the violence would be instructive, forcing someone to stop doing something isn't the same as teaching them.
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ThomasPaine posted:sans the bourgeoise, ofc Thats just it though, corrective violence only ever moves downwards. A group of ten police beating up a teenager because they looked at them funny is corrective and righteous , a group of ten teenagers making oink noises at one cop is lawlessness and evil. It's just power worship.
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The notion that there's nothing about our behaviour rooted in biology seems like a very hubristic and anthropocentric attitude. I don't have kids so I can't say whether I'd feel any violent impulse with my children, but I can say that as a human being I regularly feel involuntary impulses of varying intensities which I overcome through conscious thought. I don't see that the difference between us and other animals is that they display biological behaviours and we don't, it's that we have greater capacity to overcome biological behaviours through social conditioning and conscious discipline.
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