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Thanatosian posted:It's a term that encompasses people leaving the organization, whether quitting, being laid off, being fired, dying, whatever. Is there a more common, less euphemistic term for that? I'm not aware of one. Terminated is the word we use. As in, "terminated employment". There's a separate status for retired or deceased though...  though most don't use deceased, that can be thought of as terminated as well....
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Thanks Ants posted:Calling it 'separation' is a new era of HR-speak What would you use instead?
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Thanatosian posted:It's a term that encompasses people leaving the organization, whether quitting, being laid off, being fired, dying, whatever. Is there a more common, less euphemistic term for that? I'm not aware of one. "left"
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Agrikk posted:Comments like this always make me nervous on others’ behalf. I live in  , not some post-capitalist hellhole, and leadership is fully aware of the current dynamics, because I told them, pointing out in plain Norwegian that I am a single point of failure for this customer, and that I already have too much on my plate, so I need more people to serve the customer properly.The meeting host has nothing to do with hiring/firing for my division, he's responsible for electrical safety for the entire company, and we have to attend companywide training for that, so that's why my division has to attend the all-hands. Another minor point is that the process for layoffs here is very rigid, and none of the prerequisite meetings for my division to even start a layoff process have been held. I should know, since I would be in those meetings  Now if the CEO held the meeting, that would be something else, but even then it would be a couple of months (see above re: meetings) until I was actually out of work. I am worried about my current company in the medium term, which is why I'm probably going to  by end of year.Thanatosian posted:Look, you're just going to have be flexible, like all of us are. What's that? You want me to stay late in order to accommodate your schedule, since every other time things have been scheduled early to accommodate other people? Absolutely not, I won't stay late. I try to keep within the core hours (9a-3p), but I work overnight shifts etc. from time to time (gotta love 8 hours of double time pay for 3-4 hours of actual work), so I usually have a fair amount of leeway in how I want to arrange my days as long as I get my work done, so tomorrow I'll just leave work at 3:30pm and call it good. I just hate having to get up that early If you want me to get in early or stay late and it's not convenient for me, I will tell you to gently caress off - unless it's literally an all-hands meeting, heh.
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DelphiAegis posted:Terminated is the word we use. As in, "terminated employment". DELETE CASCADE posted:"left" It's a good term, dammit. 
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Jun 2, 2020 21:28
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Seperation from a company is an acceptable and good legal term, and many states use it in, say, determining how and when to pay out remaining vacation times. I've heard 'Engagement' used in a simiilar context for staring work at a company, but never quite the opposite.
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Jun 2, 2020 21:29
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I don't even find the term terribly euphemistic; it accurately describes what is going on in broad, clear terms; they're separating from the company, whether by their choice or the company's. The first time I heard "separation procedure" I immediately knew what it was referencing, with no context necessary. If someone started using "disengagement," yeah, okay, that's euphemistic bullshit.
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Jun 2, 2020 21:32
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Yeah, the task in our HR system is "Separation" with a status field of reason.
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Jun 2, 2020 21:34
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Thanatosian posted:I would not use "terminated" to refer to an employee who quit or retired, personally. At one job we had an employee die, and I almost said that the tasks assigned to him were in limbo because a substitute hadn't been assigned. Thankfully I caught myself.
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Jun 2, 2020 21:40
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The last time I had to touch end user accounts people who joined went on duty, people who left went off duty. It was literally the subject of the ticket, regardless of the reason of leaving. "Terminated" sounds like an American exit to me IE fired for any or no reason at all.
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Jun 2, 2020 21:41
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"Separation" kinda feels like mommy and daddy will be living in different houses for a bit
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Jaded Burnout posted:"Separation" kinda feels like mommy and daddy will be living in different houses for a bit Or it could be like your head separated from your loving body
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7:30am meeting is about electrical safety  Great way to start my morning after a semi-sleepless night.
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Wibla posted:7:30am meeting is about electrical safety Anything important or was it the usual 'electricity is dangerous. Don't eat electricity ' type of HR BS.
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Wibla posted:7:30am meeting is about electrical safety 7:30 ? Meh I have 4 days of 7am training this week for the new Client Device Monitoring Nexthink) initiative from global. Turns out the trainer is brilliant at his job and Nexthink will make me better at mine. But still, 7 loving AM. I usually end up taking an unscheduled nap in my chair around 2pm.
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Agrikk posted:Comments like this always make me nervous on others’ behalf. Apparently it caught our Director of Onsite Revenue by surprise when he got laid off, even though 1) he was the smallest group and 2) most of his functions could easily fit into other groups. I count myself lucky that I only ended up with a 6-month furlough. Even though I'm the only QA/analyst/support for this very important program everyone uses, I wouldn't have put it past someone higher up than my director to decide that they didn't really need to test anything before releasing it to the field users.
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Do you ever open a wiki/confluence/readme trying to figure something out, then see it’s filled with loving jokes and gifs that you have to waste your time reading around like an obstacle course for the eyes
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Moo the cow posted:Anything important or was it the usual 'electricity is dangerous. Don't eat electricity ' type of HR BS. Our high voltage division has had some (read: too many) mishaps, so it was definitely relevant for them
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drat, didn't know 7am was so hated. I immediately jumped on it when we reevaluated our hours. I had it at my last job too. I get about an hour or two of uninterrupted time and getting off before 4pm is great.
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07:00 would be great if I could go to sleep at 22:00 and not be interrupted, but I can't, so it's a poo poo time.
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STOP TRYING TO LOG IN CALL THE HELPDESK This VPN user is just hammering her loving password. It's been an hour. Edit: I'm on call so I got called when I was in the shower and on the way to work. Turns out my boss disabled her account and didn't tell anyone. Durr Bob Morales fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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cage-free egghead posted:drat, didn't know 7am was so hated. I immediately jumped on it when we reevaluated our hours. I had it at my last job too. I get about an hour or two of uninterrupted time and getting off before 4pm is great. 7am is even worse than having a meeting at 12:30 or 11:30
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Bob Morales posted:7am is even worse than having a meeting at 12:30 or 11:30 Idiot bosses who pull poo poo like this are doubly awful because I feel like you can't object to it without painting a target on yourself.
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cage-free egghead posted:drat, didn't know 7am was so hated. I immediately jumped on it when we reevaluated our hours. I had it at my last job too. I get about an hour or two of uninterrupted time and getting off before 4pm is great. I work 6:15am to 2:45pm everyday and it's loving amazing. I have like 3 hours before most of my team gets in that I can actually get poo poo done and I'm leaving right after I get back from lunch!
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Do you ever open a wiki/confluence/readme trying to figure something out, then see it’s filled with loving jokes and gifs that you have to waste your time reading around like an obstacle course for the eyes I hate this poo poo and try to put a stop to it any time I can. I mean, it's a miracle if anyone else is typing documentation, but I hate it. Same thing with changing font color and holding and font sizes. Yeah let's start an arms race for "this is the most important!" Header yes. Info/warning/critical callous, yes. Bullet points, numbered lists, all yes. But poo poo needs to be organized and easy to read, not a loving Jackson Polluck painting.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Do you ever open a wiki/confluence/readme trying to figure something out, then see it’s filled with loving jokes and gifs that you have to waste your time reading around like an obstacle course for the eyes I got in so much trouble at my old job for updating a ticket with a picture of a litter-strewn street and a rant about how much crap has been left behind over the years on the linux servers BACKUP.TAR BACKUP2.TAR BACKUP3.TAR BACKUP200120401.TAR BACKUP_JM.TAR BACKUP_JM2.TAR 500 .sql files random .o libraries buncha scripts TEST.PHP ....  It was literally that image.
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I habitually delete BUP files, especially if it's older than a year. If you can't be bothered to back your poo poo up properly then it was never that important.
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mattfl posted:I work 6:15am to 2:45pm everyday and it's loving amazing. I have like 3 hours before most of my team gets in that I can actually get poo poo done and I'm leaving right after I get back from lunch! When I worked in a NOC, my schedule was 6 AM to 4 PM Mon to Thurs, 4*10. It was magical. I miss three day weekends every week.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Do you ever open a wiki/confluence/readme trying to figure something out, then see it’s filled with loving jokes and gifs that you have to waste your time reading around like an obstacle course for the eyes Yes and I loving hate it. Look assholes, when I'm looking for a readme it's because I'm in the middle of something and I'm trying to crank though it. Your list of lawyer jokes isn't charming or cute, it's irritating. I will happily demolish joke pages on wikis, filtering out the joke content into a new joke page and leaving behind the actual content page. I'f I'm feeling charitable, I might leave a link on the original page to the new joke page. edit: yes, it's me. I'm the non-fun-having greybeard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsxVtDTtnZU Agrikk fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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I'm not even going to disagree. If there's jokes around a process/thing, yeah have at them, but not in the reference doc of how it's set up. That's just dumb.
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That's what the talk page is for, christ almighty.
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 For fucks sake Comcast. Every one of our Comcast locations across the state just lost connection simultaneously. Edit: Both phones and Internet. Likely cable too, but we don't have TV service with them. Edit2:  Edit3: Appears it is all of Indiana and Illinois. Fantastic. stevewm fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Do you ever open a wiki/confluence/readme trying to figure something out, then see it’s filled with loving jokes and gifs that you have to waste your time reading around like an obstacle course for the eyes There is a company that makes prosumer audio equipment whose manuals are full of dad jokes and crap to make them seem cooler than they actually are. After trying to deal with this for a couple of years, I just stopped buying their gear. 
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diremonk posted:There is a company that makes prosumer audio equipment whose manuals are full of dad jokes and crap to make them seem cooler than they actually are. After trying to deal with this for a couple of years, I just stopped buying their gear. that's the worst poo poo i've ever seen
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the gently caress is up with that punchline? not just "sure, let me turn down the suck knob," it's "yes, indeed i can make you sound better... i will turn down the suck knob, which will do wonders for your band!" it's like they workshopped it with raul julia's m. bison
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Weedle posted:the gently caress is up with that punchline? not just "sure, let me turn down the suck knob," it's "yes, indeed i can make you sound better... i will turn down the suck knob, which will do wonders for your band!" it's like they workshopped it with raul julia's m. bison
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Thanatosian posted:This is an old joke among audio technicians. We were making it when I was in college in the early oughts. i mean, i get the joke, the verbosity is just insane
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FOH engineers here ( ) usually have a channel labelled as DFA (does gently caress all) and when they get a dumb request just play with that and then ask "how's that now?" and most of the time the feedback is positive
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Thanks Ants posted:FOH engineers here (
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gently caress it, it works in IT as well. I'm sure every trade has examples of just pretending to do something for their clients rather than explaining how they are wrong.
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