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A Sneaker Broker posted:The best job available is the Commanders. New Owner, New GM. You got Pick #2 and a lot of money to work with in free agency. Players know you are established since you helped turn Jared Goff into an all-pro caliber QB in just two years. Also, if you look around the division, it's absolute poverty. I'd still say the Chargers are better bc they come with a franchise QB and depressingly low expectations but Washington is a shockingly good opening right now.
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A Sneaker Broker posted:The best job available is the Commanders. New Owner, New GM. You got Pick #2 and a lot of money to work with in free agency. Players know you are established since you helped turn Jared Goff into an all-pro caliber QB in just two years. Also, if you look around the division, it's absolute poverty. If Aaron Glenn is still drawing interest for HC spots this is where I want him to go. Washington needs a vibes overhaul and Glenn's players love him even if the Lions' defense has been bad to mediocre in his time here.
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I'm still unclear if the Eric Bieniemy is still the OC or not
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I'd still say the Chargers are better bc they come with a franchise QB and depressingly low expectations but Washington is a shockingly good opening right now. I put the Chargers at #2 on my list, slightly below the Commanders. I would give them #1, but they still have Spanos. And he is the cheapest owner I've ever seen besides Snyder.
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C-Euro posted:If Aaron Glenn is still drawing interest for HC spots this is where I want him to go. Washington needs a vibes overhaul and Glenn's players love him even if the Lions' defense has been bad to mediocre in his time here. Yea honestly Washington should hire either of the two Lions coordinators bc both of them have just witnessed and participated in a cultural overhaul. They're going to understand more of what it takes than most others will
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A Sneaker Broker posted:The best job available is the Commanders. New Owner, New GM. You got Pick #2 and a lot of money to work with in free agency. Players know you are established since you helped turn Jared Goff into an all-pro caliber QB in just two years. Also, if you look around the division, it's absolute poverty. kiimo posted:I'm still unclear if the Eric Bieniemy is still the OC or not
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I cant imagine Bienemy will struggle to find an OC gig. I think the general failure of Washington has hurt his chances at a HC gig but you never know. Still so many dominoes to fall.
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The Washington job is poo poo, I don't know what yall are smoking.
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Youre almost guaranteed 3 years with Washington and you get to pick your QB and everything else as if it's a blank slate. There's something to be said for it, especially since they traded away 2 former top picks you're now not going to have to worry about paying and balancing in playtime etc. The ownership are also going to want to not be Snyder lite you would think too. I cam see the attraction. Especially considering they do have some pieces offensively you can build around
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Relentlessboredomm posted:I'd still say the Chargers are better bc they come with a franchise QB and depressingly low expectations but Washington is a shockingly good opening right now. I'm kinda assuming Chargers will end up going with Harbaugh, otherwise they're a clear #1. Washington is a good opening, the only real issue is not knowing how the new owner will be, but right now they don't seem too meddlesome like Tepper and at the very least it's not Dan Snyder so they seem like as solid a landing spot as any.
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Though I still argue the Titans are a good landing place, we have a promising young QB and good defense, plus a ton of cap space. If the OL can be rebuilt and better coached, and if we can get some WRs and CBs, Nashville's as good a destination as any.
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BlindSite posted:Youre almost guaranteed 3 years with Washington and you get to pick your QB and everything else as if it's a blank slate. The things Ben Johnson could do with a Scary Terry... I am a little aroused to see that offense, especially considering we already know how he is using The Sun God.
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Mega64 posted:I'm kinda assuming Chargers will end up going with Harbaugh, otherwise they're a clear #1. Washington is a good opening, the only real issue is not knowing how the new owner will be, but right now they don't seem too meddlesome like Tepper and at the very least it's not Dan Snyder so they seem like as solid a landing spot as any. Harris also owns the 76ers and generally it seems he invests in the team and facilities without meddling. The Chargers are old and have to clean up their cap. I would take the Commander job over it but Chargers would be number 2 for me.
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Simplex posted:The Washington job is poo poo, I don't know what yall are smoking. No Snyder, good weapons, 3rd overall pick with a couple high 2nds, 75mil in cap and landed the top gm of the class. There's things to work with. Washington can't block Bienemy from interviewing for an HC position. Dude must murder puppies in interviews to get blanked on interviews after making Howell almost startable.
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Washington has the second not third so most likely they will have Drake at QB.
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Isn't Bieniemy also a pass out of the shotgun 70% of the time guy? A head coach has to really want to play that way to hire him.
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New owners are morons until proven otherwise, and if anything are less likely to be patient with coaches. Having a top 5 pick that you have to spend on a quarterback is not all that attractive, as it generally means that your fate is tied to the development of a 21 year old who has not played a down of NFL football. Oh and their defense is rear end, and they only have a ton of space because they cleared out almost everybody with talent.
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Hand Row posted:Harris also owns the 76ers and generally it seems he invests in the team and facilities without meddling. The Chargers aren't really old. Keenan Allen will be back, but I'm kinda assuming that Mack, Kendricks, Ekeler, and Mike Williams will be gone. Other than Keenan, the only player that's 30 or older at the start of next year is the long snapper. The Chargers have QB figured out. No other team with an opening does.
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Desirability:
Put the Cowboys at the very top with the Chargers if McCarthy is gone, put them with the Falcons/Seahawks if Dak is also gone. Pending Sirianni being relieved of duties, put the Eagles in between Chargers and Falcons/Seahawks/Cowboys*.
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Simplex posted:New owners are morons until proven otherwise, and if anything are less likely to be patient with coaches. Having a top 5 pick that you have to spend on a quarterback is not all that attractive, as it generally means that your fate is tied to the development of a 21 year old who has not played a down of NFL football. Oh and their defense is rear end, and they only have a ton of space because they cleared out almost everybody with talent. yeah barring hitting dingers on every other position group, you're basically staking your entire fate as a HC on picking the right QB in the draft, if there IS a right QB in the draft.
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I will say I honestly would be fine with Aaron Glenn if he hires good coordinators, acknowledges when he makes mistakes so he can fix them, and knows when to cut his losses when it comes to staff. That's what made Campbell succeed the way he has (and hopefully continue to do!) We've had a great motivator as a coach, but one loyal to his staff to a fault. I'd love a motivator that will also make the hard decisions to better help the team win.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Desirability: Granted, I didn't pay that much attention to the Seahawks, but they seem like the Commies without the free cap. Weapons are there and nothing else.
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The thing about clamoring for Ben Johnson is, he seems to be an excellent OC but we have no idea if that means he'll be a good coach. New HCs are basically the Peter Principle in action, and we've seen far more supposed offensive or defensive geniuses fail to make the leap than succeed. I'd still prefer him or MacDonald for the Hawks but it's entirely possible he just bombs his vibe check or ends up being a new Arthur Smith.
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shirts and skins posted:The thing about clamoring for Ben Johnson is, he seems to be an excellent OC but we have no idea if that means he'll be a good coach. New HCs are basically the Peter Principle in action, and we've seen far more supposed offensive or defensive geniuses fail to make the leap than succeed. I'd still prefer him or MacDonald for the Hawks but it's entirely possible he just bombs his vibe check or ends up being a new Arthur Smith. no poo poo. no one knows if a first time coach is going to be good until someone hires them.
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a neat cape posted:The Chargers aren't really old. That's a bunch of good players that are leaving/old. Which is kinda the point. Keenan Allen will be 32 in April. How much left can be squeezed there?
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A Sneaker Broker posted:The things Ben Johnson could do with a Scary Terry... I am a little aroused to see that offense, especially considering we already know how he is using The Sun God. Now imagine him with DK and JSN
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:That's a bunch of good players that are leaving/old. Which is kinda the point. Mack was good. The rest were not. Keenan Allen had 108 receptions and 7 touchdowns in 13 games this year. He's never relied on speed to get open, I would assume he's got a few years left.
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Hawks also interviewing Texans OC Bobby Slowik. Starting to look like the first episode of the Bachelorette up there.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Keenan Allen will be 32 in April. How much left can be squeezed there? Who knows, but he's still good now which is the important thing.
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The Chargers have a lot of young talent too but I'm assuming it doesn't fit the argument so let's ignore them and concentrate on names we know
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kiimo posted:The Chargers have a lot of young talent too but I'm assuming it doesn't fit the argument so let's ignore them and concentrate on names we know Tuli is gonna be a double digit sack guy next year and I am excited for it!
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DeimosRising posted:yeah barring hitting dingers on every other position group, you're basically staking your entire fate as a HC on picking the right QB in the draft, if there IS a right QB in the draft. To expand on this, and expanding it to top 6 picks since 2019 because the results are funnier: Kyler Murray - on his 2nd HC Daniel Jones - 3rd Joe Burrow - 1st Tua - 2nd Herbert - 4th! Trevor Lawrence -3rd Zach Wilson - somehow 1st Trey Lance - 2nd* Bryce Young -3rd Stroud 1st Richardson- 1st.
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ozymandius1024 posted:What is the consensus best job available right now? Genuinely it should be the Bears but.. lol If you're Ben Johnson I think it's the Falcons. Go get Fields to pair up with Pitts, London and the Bijan/Allgeier RB tandem..
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Granted, I didn't pay that much attention to the Seahawks, but they seem like the Commies without the free cap. Weapons are there and nothing else. It’s not that dire but it’s certainly not as good as the post you quoted indicates. Hawks have a bad cap situation so they might need to trade one of their wrs to make it balance. Seattle is also missing draft picks. What’s going good for Seattle: two good young OTs, two good young CBs, one good and one serviceable-ish young edges. Serviceable if unspectacular older qb. Three good older DTs (but Williams is a FA). Two good wrs on expensive contracts and one solid young wr. Two serviceable young RBs. Basically everything else is replacement level or worse. But the main thing going for Seattle is that they got the Microsoft money so back da truck up!!!
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EmbryoSteve posted:Now imagine him with DK and JSN I know, but gently caress. What will Seattle do for QB? Is Geno really the guy?
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shirts and skins posted:Hawks also interviewing Texans OC Bobby Slowik. Starting to look like the first episode of the Bachelorette up there. Just fill up the entire NFC West with Shanahan tree coaches.
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Simplex posted:To expand on this, and expanding it to top 6 picks since 2019 because the results are funnier: Herbert has had 2 coaches
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Coldforge posted:Just fill up the entire NFC West with Shanahan tree coaches. The success of that tree is pretty wild.
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I think o-line takes precedent in Seattle over the QB. The 2nd year guys took a step back plus lots of injuries made for a lot of different lineups and a lot of inconsistent play.
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Coldforge posted:Just fill up the entire NFC West with Shanahan tree coaches. Comrade, we must go further, fill up the entire NFL with Shanahan tree coaches. Reid, BB, and the Harbaugh boys can come too.
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