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Bullfrog posted:on top of the existential fear involved in being alive in the first place, climate change is like the DLC that nobody asked for its for the real heads only
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For me when you've already viewed the world as a completely insane place where everyone does things they don't want to do so numbers go up. The inexorable doom of climate change made internal narrative sense. In other words, lol everything is real dumb.
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Mar 21, 2019 20:26
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bioshock, but its just a regular city
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Mar 21, 2019 20:30
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Trainee PornStar posted:For me it was time.. I can only keep panicking for so long & after a while it just becomes a bit of a numb feeling in the background, kinda like you know your hosed long term but meh!... Yep!
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Mar 21, 2019 20:33
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Weed used to Increase the Fear for me but recently it hasn't. thanks to alcohol!
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Mar 21, 2019 20:59
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Bullfrog posted:Weed used to Increase the Fear for me but recently it hasn't. As an older goon I used to worry about the smoking weed & seriously consider knocking it on the head... Now I just consider it a race to see what kills me 1st lol I guess my point is that at this stage, try not to worry, do what you can, be happy & it's unlikely the drugs/booze will kill you 1st.
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Mar 21, 2019 21:15
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_farming_in_Almer%C3%ADa I’m looking at that and I wonder how resilient it is to a changing climate? in any case, I can now see that with enough effort humans can cover hundreds of square miles in plastic to grow food. ...and with enough exploitable labor anything is possible!
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Mar 21, 2019 21:31
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Bullfrog posted:on top of the existential fear involved in being alive in the first place, climate change is like the DLC that nobody asked for give yourself an edge with the APOCALYPSE WARRIOR PACK
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Mar 21, 2019 22:10
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Yinlock posted:give yourself an edge with the APOCALYPSE WARRIOR PACK Apocalypse Warrior Pack: unique "mad max" inspired costume, motorcycle, and sawed-off shotgun Despair Pack: 12 bottles of whiskey, kilo of weed, somethingawful account Florida Pack: lifejacket, bath salts, crocodile armor
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Mar 21, 2019 22:21
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Yinlock posted:getting past the sheer existential despair is the roughest part of accepting just how bad climate change is gonna be, after that it's surprisingly easy to focus on making it survivable even if that's just a pipe dream Yeah. Although I still struggle with questions like 'am I just going crazy?' because so many people are ignoring everything.
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Mar 21, 2019 23:28
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Not to turn this into an E/N thread, but I've been having a lot of anxiety about death lately, and I wonder if knowing all this about climate change is making it worse. I'm counting on this relationship of fear to change as time goes on
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Mar 21, 2019 23:40
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Bullfrog posted:Not to turn this into an E/N thread, but I've been having a lot of anxiety about death lately, and I wonder if knowing all this about climate change is making it worse. Yes of course it is you're discovering new and exciting ways that you could die. When you are dead you won't care anymore so enjoy what you can while you are here.
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Mar 21, 2019 23:57
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i get over my existential angst by sticking my head in ponds and screaming at fish, frogs, tadpoles, etc, that they are loving stupid and will die because their ancestors didn't eat humans when they had the chance. their incredulity is healing.
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Mar 22, 2019 00:04
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I have to imagine that most of the suffering that evolves out of climate change will hit the developing world and the global south. If we see a 20% drop in global agricultural output, imperialism is going make sure that means millions of Bangladeshi starve to death while the people posting in this thread learn to love Meatless Mondays. Your life under climate change isn't going to be riding on top of truck playing a guitar that is also a flamethrower, it's going to be a bunch of inconveniences and tut-tuting as you read about the mounting piles of dead brown people on Google News. And yeah, that's awful, but if this is the version of the future that leaves you paralyzed with fear you probably need to go get your case of of the sadbrains checked out. e: of course this may not be the case for Americans a generation or two from now, but hey, pro tip, don't have kids.
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Mar 22, 2019 00:34
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CODChimera posted:Yeah. Although I still struggle with questions like 'am I just going crazy?' because so many people are ignoring everything. this my current state I vacillate between trying to shut my mouth and act normal (do not recommend) and just being honest about how I feel and getting blank looks and no responses in real life my husband and parents are the only ones that are even acknowledging climate change but they are still on the “it’s happening, it’ll be bad, but we will be spared the worst of it so just keep on going” page at this point I will consider it a victory if I can have a conversation about the future of costal Florida with a friend or coworker. I have a million questions and I wish I could talk about it with people in same situation like should I move? I work in the ER and I enjoy my job so is it better to stay as long as possible and help those that can’t or won’t leave? but it will keep getting worse, so when should I move? where should I move? if I stay, should I build hurricane proof house built on stilts? if I wait too long will I be priced out of “safe areas” and wind up in a shanty town?
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Mar 22, 2019 00:46
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Bullfrog posted:on top of the existential fear involved in being alive in the first place, climate change is like the DLC that nobody asked for The new civ 6 expansion sucks
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Mar 22, 2019 00:48
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Bullfrog posted:Not to turn this into an E/N thread, but I've been having a lot of anxiety about death lately, and I wonder if knowing all this about climate change is making it worse.
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Mar 22, 2019 01:04
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Socks4Hands posted:its for the real heads only
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Mar 22, 2019 01:16
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CODChimera posted:Yeah. Although I still struggle with questions like 'am I just going crazy?' because so many people are ignoring everything. I was there like a year ago, thinking could I just be wrong about all of this? My friends call me a fatalist, and I guess they are right. I’d say I am more a realist but that doesn’t really change anything.
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Mar 22, 2019 01:46
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El Laucha posted:I was there like a year ago, thinking could I just be wrong about all of this? My friends call me a fatalist, and I guess they are right. I’d say I am more a realist but that doesn’t really change anything. Most people have a limit of how much they can accept climate change before they switch to denial. Conservatives deny the whole thing because all potential realistic solutions are incompatible with conservative politics, and their worldview is too fundamental to who they are. Other centrists, liberals, and apolitical types may appeal to the mythology of the human spirit, or believe we will find and properly utilize miracle technologies that don't exist yet. Or maybe they genuinely don't understand how bad things will get because they consciously avoid the information when possible, or purposefully choose optimism as a way to subjectively weigh the information they do have. For me, I still contribute to my 401k because when I stopped I found it to be too hard on me. It may be too simplistic or pithy to say most people need to have hope for a decent future (after all, the 'second denial' which I have been describing can happen for a wide variety of reasons), but I think that does get to the heart of how many people approach their beliefs to climate change. You can look at this thread where people take it all in and see how it has turned into a den of alcoholics, sadbrains, misanthropes, and antinatalists and it's hard not to conclude that the plain truth fucks people up badly. Looping this back around to your post, the 'fatalist' jab is likely just a way for these people to protect their own sanity and coping mechanisms. I have experienced similar denials from others and found interpreting it this way has made a lot of sense. Not sure if I can wrap this all up with any new or interesting point so I'll just have a large number 3 with an oreo shake and side of jalapeno poppers, thanks
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Mar 22, 2019 05:39
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quote:a den of alcoholics, sadbrains, misanthropes, and antinatalists this is the whole forum
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Mar 22, 2019 05:44
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Bass Concert Hall posted:I have to imagine that most of the suffering that evolves out of climate change will hit the developing world and the global south. If we see a 20% drop in global agricultural output, imperialism is going make sure that means millions of Bangladeshi starve to death while the people posting in this thread learn to love Meatless Mondays. Your life under climate change isn't going to be riding on top of truck playing a guitar that is also a flamethrower, it's going to be a bunch of inconveniences and tut-tuting as you read about the mounting piles of dead brown people on Google News. And yeah, that's awful, but if this is the version of the future that leaves you paralyzed with fear you probably need to go get your case of of the sadbrains checked out. This is hopelessly optimistic
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Mar 22, 2019 06:10
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Stairmaster posted:This is hopelessly optimistic So? Optimism is going to be equally effective as pessimism at solving this problem (ie not at all) so why not go with the one that feels better
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Mar 22, 2019 06:26
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Son of Rodney posted:So my gf who I introduced to the great we're fuckedening last week has been having a continuous breakdown about climate change since then. I feel terrible and have been trying to calm her down saying stuff like "we will propably be able to lead pretty OK lives till we die" "humans have always been having lovely lives since the dawn of times" and "let's try to be more Buddhist about this, life is suffering and trying to hold on to stuff is just asking to be sad anyway". I'm pretty bad at this but she's recovering.  this username/AV/post combo is too loving strong
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Mar 22, 2019 06:27
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Mayor Dave posted:So? Optimism is going to be equally effective as pessimism at solving this problem (ie not at all) so why not go with the one that feels better Thinking that 'Meatless Mondays' is going to be the biggest of our worries is highly questionable though.
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Mar 22, 2019 09:08
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net work error posted:How do you do the first part? Asking for a friend. We were always destined to gunna die, an individually, as a race, as a planet. a giant meteor, solarflare that wipes out the atmosphere, super virus, sun getting too hot, universe heatdeath, whatever--there never was any 'escape'. and we really aren't that special, just a collection of cells n neurons firing, one that just evolutionary decided being relatively smarter about tools was better than giant claws of death. while it's fairly remarkable what we'd discovered about the universe and its building blocks that probably 99.99999999999999999+% of all organic life will never consider or know, it ultimately still exists and there will be other life to do that somewhere throughout the universe, as probably many have before, even across many previous big bang cycles. while it's easy to be sad about the sacrifices, the art, the music, and their lifes work/souls that many before us put into our existence will all be lost forever, it was always going to happen and hopefully it made some lives better, which is all that really matters. as with really all life, it's about doing the best we can to live in the moment and help propagate our species (and all other life) by ensuring they have the most sustainable, happy, and fulfilling lives we can set them up for. its kinda the most basic of all biologic of urges to propagate the species and take care of the future. Also this poo poo is all sliding scale, societal doom is inevitable but if we can ease or mitigate the suffering & damage of thousands, millions, billions of people (and other life), then we owe it to do that. If we can even get a point where only 98% of life is gone but there's still pockets of sustainable agriculture and plants, maybe a lake with some aquatic life n poo poo somewhere, then that's a success. also if it helps you on a more sociopathic-level for you, pretty much no white ok-ishly well-off american or canadian goon here is going to be "suffering" it to any great extent in our lifetimes--baring getting drowned, sucked up in a hurrcane/torando, or burnt in a fiery blaze.
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Homeless Friend posted:
I really have to change my av one of these days since I didn't really know who Rodney dangerfield was before people started commenting on it. I just found the picture funny as it's super ridiculous. Can you tell me why it's funny or stupid or whatever?
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Mar 22, 2019 09:57
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Son of Rodney posted:Can you tell me why it's funny or stupid or whatever? ... and then give them life altering depression!!!! Come on!
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I have to imagine that most of the suffering that evolves out of climate change will hit the developing world and the global south. If we see a 20% drop in global agricultural output, imperialism is going to make sure that means millions of Bangladeshi fail to subscribe to T-Series.
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20% drop huh? So fatasses will have 4 greasemeats instead of 5?
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Mar 22, 2019 11:58
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meatless mondays are dumb af along with every other liberal solution that involves people making lame token efforts to make themselves feel better but not actually tackling the problem in any meaningful way abstaining from things that impact your carbon footprint once a week to assuage your guilt won't make a difference, however governments deciding that everyone needs to eat rice and beans for a decade or two to prevent mass starvation in the global south would
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Mar 22, 2019 12:33
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i can do pretty good rice and beans. throw in a tater and maybe some garden vegetables and we're in business
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Mar 22, 2019 12:37
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Bass Concert Hall posted:I have to imagine that most of the suffering that evolves out of climate change will hit the developing world and the global south. If we see a 20% drop in global agricultural output, imperialism is going make sure that means millions of Bangladeshi starve to death while the people posting in this thread learn to love Meatless Mondays. Your life under climate change isn't going to be riding on top of truck playing a guitar that is also a flamethrower, it's going to be a bunch of inconveniences and tut-tuting as you read about the mounting piles of dead brown people on Google News. And yeah, that's awful, but if this is the version of the future that leaves you paralyzed with fear you probably need to go get your case of of the sadbrains checked out. if current trends hold true we will absolutely see the beginning of the downfall of all of civilization, not just the developing world. 4c by 2100 will be absolute chaos, but it's not like it will only turn into a global catastrophe when it hits that point. 2.5c is the point where i expect things to really start falling the gently caress apart, and that'll happen like 40 years from now. if things like the clathrate gun hypothesis or stratocumulus cloud deck failures turn out to be true, it's going to get a lot worse a lot faster than that.
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:i can do pretty good rice and beans. throw in a tater and maybe some garden vegetables and we're in business i regret to inform you that potatoes are forbidden
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Mar 22, 2019 13:25
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as the child of a cuban american immigrant let me just say that no one that makes a good plate of rice and beans adds potatoes or garden vegetables and as a result you are now #cancelled also you need to let the beans soak overnight to really absorb the flavor
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Mar 22, 2019 13:46
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I wanted to write an effortpost but really all that can be said is lmao we're hosed
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i think we could absolutely still do things as a species but it would require sweeping changes globally if the fash keeps winning we are definitely done, bolsonaro alone could doom the planet if he clear cuts the amazon
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Mar 22, 2019 14:34
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It's gonna be a far slower and gradual decline rather then just being completely hosed one day. I remember my front yard as a kid in the summer used to look like a loving Christmas tree lit up with fireflies. We would get those plastic cages and put dozens of them in it. The house I grew up in is about 10 miles from where I live now, but if I see 3 or 4 fire flies on a summer night I'm surprised.
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Summer last year was so dry and hot we literally didn't need to use mosquito repellent. It was nice but also terrifying.
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EvilJoven posted:Summer last year was so dry and hot we literally didn't need to use mosquito repellent. It was nice but also terrifying.
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