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McTinkerson posted:https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-n-vision-74-first-look-build-now/ The best shape, the best wheels.
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McTinkerson posted:https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-n-vision-74-first-look-build-now/ Holy hell that looks incredible.
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McTinkerson posted:https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-n-vision-74-first-look-build-now/ As it is - completely loving awesome but unsellable. Tone down the rear splitter a little bit, lose the wing, and then sell a million copies.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:As it is - completely loving awesome but unsellable. Tone down the rear splitter a little bit, lose the wing, and then sell eight thousand copies globally. fixed that for you
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You can tell it will basically never be sold because it has a hydrogen fuel cell, but drat if they come out with anything close to that I'll be putting my name down for one. It's like what the new delorean should have looked like.
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I have no idea why you'd ever lose the wing.
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I saw a Raptor 37 in the flesh for the first time yesterday and I want one.
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2zKAX53OyQ No one under the age of 70 is going to buy this car.
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McTinkerson posted:https://www.motortrend.com/news/hyundai-n-vision-74-first-look-build-now/
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Godzilla07 posted:No one under the age of 70 is going to buy this car. Why this instead of a Lexus RX or RAV4 is what I'm wondering
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KillHour posted:I have no idea why you'd ever lose the wing. hi5, Big Wing Buddy
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How much would I hate driving a manual in a 17 mile each way, medium to heavy stop and go commute? edit: the last manual I owned was an SVT Focus in 2009 and I'm 40 now.
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TheWevel posted:How much would I hate driving a manual in a 17 mile each way, medium to heavy stop and go commute? I'm from a manual or die family and so is my wife and we own three manuals right now (and I have a manual Bronco on order). I wouldn't do it. the one time I was in stop and go in my Mustang I wanted to kill myself after about 40 minutes. I showed my wife your post and she said she would do it, she liked it and says it gave her something to do. I think the difference between us is that she actually has lived in major metros so got used to it and i never have.
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I drive 50 miles round trip in and out of London everyday in a manual haha
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TheWevel posted:How much would I hate driving a manual in a 17 mile each way, medium to heavy stop and go commute? As a person with a heavy stop and go commute who is also 40, I'd say it depends on the car and how heavy the clutch is. My Mazda2? No problem because the clutch is super light and the shifter is pleasant. In the 911 with its heavy duty truck style clutch? Not a chance - all the pleasure would be taken out of the drive. Truthfully, for commuting I like driving the auto hybrid or taking my motorcycle.
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TheWevel posted:How much would I hate driving a manual in a 17 mile each way, medium to heavy stop and go commute? That would greatly depend on the car especially in regards how easy it is to work the clutch and how much low end torque the engine has. I'm a relative noob at driving stick myself after buying a Forester XT over two years ago. The clutch isn't what would be considered good as I literally cannot feel the bite point in the pedal and basically depend on muscle memory and observing engine revs and movement of the car. However, the engine has a decent amount of low end torque that I can deal with the so-so clutch. With a lot of practice in the intervening time, I've become proficient enough that I can take it into NYC (and have taken it through all five boroughs) regardless of traffic or inclines. However, my actual commute is all highway cruising at 70 mph because I commute in the opposite direction of rush hour traffic plus I now do hybrid remote work. Having never commuted through rush hour traffic, I don't think I can tolerate it myself in any car, manual or automatic, unless it had advanced driver assist with lane following and adaptive cruise control. I mean I could technically do it but I would absolutely hate doing it 5-days a week in each direction. Edward IV fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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TheWevel posted:medium to heavy stop and go commute? I imagine everyone will have different definitions of "medium to heavy". I drove a stick in the greater Providence, RI area for ~4 years and that place is a pretty dense shithole with awful drivers but it's probably nothing compared to LA 
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I want to embrace a two-car lifestyle because commuting in Chicagoland traffic with a stick blows rear end.
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I live in Atlanta so my heavy stop and go is probably worse than most. I've been looking at the new Si or WRX as like, my final chance with ICE cars before we're all forced by the government to drive EVs but them being manual only may be a dealbreaker. I was very close to getting a Kona N (dsg) a couple weeks ago but just couldn't pull the trigger on it.
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Full Collapse posted:I want to embrace a two-car lifestyle because commuting in Chicagoland traffic with a stick blows rear end. I had to commute to downtown Chicago a couple times a month in my last job in a stick. And if it wasn't only couple times a month I might never want a stick again.
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If it is guaranteed daily stop and go, that would be a dealbreaker for me. If it's slowdown with occasional stop and go (like one bad day a week?), I'd probably do it (or be closer to a coin flip on it). Background: I got a WRX about three months ago after three years of driving automatic and desperately wanting another manual. When I was driving automatic and wanting to have a manual again, I would have probably thought gently caress it, I'll live with it. Now after having one again and having been in stop and go a couple of times, it isn't something I'd want to do every day.
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you are for sure going to be able to buy an ICE car for a very long time so I would probably chill on the GUBMINT GONNA MANDATE EVs poo poo. as far as I can tell the new WRX is a potato (or at least not better than the prior ones) so I'm not sure why you would want to buy one instead of a used WRX. I drive manual cars in Boston. I probably wouldn't drive the M5 on my old 45 minute commute every day, the clutch is pretty heavy and it is not a car that tolerates stop and go traffic. But everything else I have driven would be fine - 128, FoST, Alltrack, Maxima. I don't intend to ever own an automatic ICE car.
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Roseville, CA (Norcal inland wannabe Orange County) July 2022 market updates: 1. Toyota Tacomas still have $10k markups. 2. Chevy Tahoes/etc still have $10k markups or more. 3. GMC Pickups still have $5k markups. 4. Chevy Pickups now have retreated to $1.5k OFF MSRP
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:you are for sure going to be able to buy an ICE car for a very long time so I would probably chill on the GUBMINT GONNA MANDATE EVs poo poo. i guess i should use sarcasm tags outside of cspam
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Joe Biden is going to make ICE illegal other things that will be made illegal: patriotism, freedom, property ownership, and heterosexuality.
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Idea time! Small hub motors on the non-driven wheels with just enough grunt to creep a car forward. Put them on a manual transmission car. When the car is in no gear and the brakes aren't pressed, the car creeps forward in traffic without having to dick around with the clutch. Now you can have fun with a manual transmission when conditions allow and you don't have to put all that effort into operating the clutch to move forward three feet at a time.
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haven't you essentially invented the Toyota Prius AWD system?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:haven't you essentially invented the Toyota Prius AWD system? I think Mitsubishi might have gotten there first on one of its not-very-good crossover SUVs. But this is applying that lame technology to something cool.
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PBCrunch posted:Idea time! Mazda patented something that makes it look like the next Miata is getting two electric motors driving the front wheels: https://www.thedrive.com/news/44267/mazda-patents-lightweight-hybrid-drivetrain-that-could-be-for-the-ne-miata. I'd like an EV switch or something, but I think that it'd be over-complicated to actually live with something like what you described. More interestingly, Mazda patented a rear mounted 6-speed sequential transaxle? What mass-market cars have ever been sold with a sequential transmission?
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It depends on your definition of sequential. If you're talking hydraulically activated manual transmission there are a few from Aston Martin, Ferrari, Toyota, and BMW; DSG opens you up to Porsche/BMW/VW. If you're talking a true drum shift style sequential like a motorcycle I can really only think of stuff in the Radical category.
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BlackMK4 posted:It depends on your definition of sequential. If you're talking hydraulically activated manual transmission there are a few from Aston Martin, Ferrari, Toyota, and BMW; DSG opens you up to Porsche/BMW/VW. If you're talking a true drum shift style sequential like a motorcycle I can really only think of stuff in the Radical category. Yeah, that patent is for a drum shift unsynchronized sequential manual, which I'm really only familiar with on motorcycles.
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Twerk from Home posted:Yeah, that patent is for a drum shift unsynchronized sequential manual, which I'm really only familiar with on motorcycles. That is pretty rad then. Interesting.
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PBCrunch posted:Idea time! The only thing I don't like about this idea is the unsprung weight increase.
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BlackMK4 posted:It depends on your definition of sequential. If you're talking hydraulically activated manual transmission there are a few from Aston Martin, Ferrari, Toyota, and BMW; DSG opens you up to Porsche/BMW/VW. If you're talking a true drum shift style sequential like a motorcycle I can really only think of stuff in the Radical category. I like how you didn't count Ford's awful attempt at making a DSG.
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PBCrunch posted:I like how you didn't count Ford's awful attempt at making a DSG. Some things are best left forgotten 
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Keyser_Soze posted:Roseville, CA (Norcal inland wannabe Orange County) July 2022 market updates: Thanks for this. Its fun to see what dumb dealerships are doing in other states.
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BlackMK4 posted:It depends on your definition of sequential. If you're talking hydraulically activated manual transmission there are a few from Aston Martin, Ferrari, Toyota, and BMW; DSG opens you up to Porsche/BMW/VW. If you're talking a true drum shift style sequential like a motorcycle I can really only think of stuff in the Radical category. My Ferrari has a DSG as well, as do all? of their current cars now.
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It’s only a DSG if it’s from the Direktschaltgetriebe region of Germany. Otherwise it’s a sparkling dual-clutch.
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Godzilla07 posted:No one under the age of 70 is going to buy this car. It is a replacement for the Avalon in the U.S. market so...
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