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Gazpacho posted:oh look, another doofus who thinks that any game that hits the right nerd buttons is above criticism I could go on about what I think about TW2 / TW3 because it's frustrating if you think a game will be fun and it subjectively isn't. It's a shame you don't like it, because like a Jehovah's witness, we just want you to share in our joy. (also there's several shotguns).
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Sagebrush posted:I'm pretty sure you can't silence the regular pistol in vanilla Deus Ex either
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Jul 12, 2017 19:29
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At this point Deus Ex is for me mostly about thinking up a run that I haven't tried before and then trying how it works out - I remember that the first time around I just modded the basic pistol into a 100% accurate murder machine that got me up to Area 51 without trouble. Now it's more fun to decide on a specific build and the right mods and e.g. try out a hulking heavy weapons and explosives tank that unfortunately can't shoot anything else worth a drat or do poo poo when forced to engage in melee. Fortunately the GEP gun is the most effective way to eliminate Manderley.
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Jul 12, 2017 19:43
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Space Camp fuckup posted:I can't tell if this is a real post In the age of hand holding video games, one poster has the courage to complain that his hand was not held enough!
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Jul 12, 2017 19:47
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Sagebrush posted:I can quote most of deus ex lines off the top of my head, but not Walton Simon's in the boss fights because I think 9 times out of 10 I just speed aug and jump past him and leave him at the bottom of the ocean
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Jul 12, 2017 19:53
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rocket_man38 posted:So which is better, revision or GMDX? gmdx seems to take steps to round off the weird edges like making the ai a bit smarter and balancing the augmentations, along with fleshing out some of the more barren levels. revision seems to just add a load of visual clutter and light bloom along with pointlessly increasing the size of some levels with nothing to fill them. go with gmdx
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Jul 12, 2017 20:15
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myDad posted:I got to that part in Prey where Alex wants me to learn Alien spells, but it sounds like a trap I went full human and didn't look back and it's really powerful. The way you can stack abilities is ridiculous. You can crouch for the sneaking bonus, buy up that combat bonus, buy up the gun bonuses, and just one shot most things with a shotgun. Or 10 shot things down really fast with the silenced pistol. I tried a second play through and got about half-way in going full alien powers and....ehhhh. They didn't feel as good to me. Oh and the fully upgraded shock gun just obliterates bots later, and is always nonlethal for humans, so you don't need powers for that either. About it being a trap. It's not. It just affects one game mechanic. Read the spoiler below if you want to know what that mechanic is. It make a giant beast called the Nightmare come after you more often. There is a way to make it leave you alone though. Also once you get strong enough it's hardly a threat. Flubby fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 12, 2017 |
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Sagebrush posted:I can quote most of deus ex lines off the top of my head, but not Walton Simon's in the boss fights because I think 9 times out of 10 I just speed aug and jump past him and leave him at the bottom of the ocean If you leave him alive doesn't he show up for a rematch at Area 51? Or is that just a Shifter/Biomod thing like Smuggler's friend actually showing up at his place if you rescue him from the MJ12 sewer base or being able to eavesdrop on a phone call at one of the desks in the base leading up to Lebedev's air field. Lunchabully posted:if you liked the first one you'll like the second but you'll get to the end and be like "yeah, that was nice but I'm done". It's really pretty and plays well and has a well-realized world but it's a sequel in the truest sense. It takes absolutely no risks and is really just more of the same game. I haven't played Dishonored 2 yet because I've been burned by Bethesda's DLC pricing schemes in the past* but the fact that the sequel also takes place during a plague because That's What Dishonored Is About I Guess seems really lazy and uninspired. *I still haven't played the DLC for the original Dishonored because they do that thing where buying the DLC for the base game is always more expensive than buying the Super Deluxe GOAT Platinum Edition that has everything bundled into a separate executable so they can artificially inflate their sales numbers
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Jul 12, 2017 20:26
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can i put in a good word here for the Deus Ex death scream? people make fun of it, but personally I want games to rub my face in it when I die. I've seen several games lately that try to make the player death sequence "pretty" by dubbing in a chime or a trombone as you're vaporized. it's not the right emotional experience. other games with good death sequences: dead space, alien isolation
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Jul 12, 2017 20:47
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jc denton...in da fresh!
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Gazpacho posted:can i put in a good word here for the Deus Ex death scream? people make fun of it, but personally I want games to rub my face in it when I die. I've seen several games lately that try to make the player death sequence "pretty" by dubbing in a chime or a trombone as you're vaporized. it's not the right emotional experience. Megaman X4 made me feel like poo poo when I died
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Jul 12, 2017 21:07
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Gazpacho posted:i watched some let's play prey vids and it turns out i walked right past the shotgun because it wasn't presented clearly. Gazpacho posted:doom 2 starts you off looking straight at the shotgun and forces you to pick it up
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Jul 12, 2017 21:28
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Alright you fuckers, I'm going to get Prey because it sounds real good. I tried playing alpha Protocol again but I always forget how atrocious the PC port is.
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Jul 12, 2017 21:35
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Started up Deus Ex for the first time in a while with the new GMDX mod. Rescued Ford Shick for the first time ever. Always knew where the MJ12 base was but I guess I never realized it went wayyy further than I thought. Poor guy has been left to die in every other one of my playthroughs LOL. I need to start accumulating boxes of boom and LAMs for Denton's Last Stand at the Battle of the 'Ton. Then ceremoniously swan dive off the roof. Anyone ever notice all the levels take place at night? Been playing with no lights and my blinds closed. 
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Jul 12, 2017 21:45
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It's not night, he just wears sunglasses
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Jul 12, 2017 22:02
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a bone to pick posted:Alright you fuckers, I'm going to get Prey because it sounds real good. Check out the thread in games also.
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Jul 12, 2017 22:03
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I'll take the 30-ought-6. Also, abuse the poo poo out of the experience glitch at the sea base.
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Jul 12, 2017 22:17
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I used to constantly dump points into heavy and use the LAW/GEP for 50% of encounters and the maxed out pistol for the rest. Taking down the MJ12 and MIBs in the Paris Catacombs is a joke with the GEP cause of the confined surfaces and the helpful "feature" that they self destruct each other LMAO. I'm having a hard time NOT doing this again this playthrough.
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Jul 12, 2017 22:41
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Do an auto shotty run breh
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I miss the old kind a video game where they were actually puzzles and stuff. Now every game you have to do some stupid questions like collect 20 huge green grapes to proceed. It's pathetic and I miss the old games
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Jul 12, 2017 23:40
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OMG JC a bomb!
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Copper Vein posted:No it doesn't, what are you talking about? There are three weapon pickups in the first level of Doom2 and all of them are hidden and tagged as secret. any game that draws heavily from RPG rule systems gets an automatic "clunkiness" mark from me and needs something to offset it. in Deus Ex this is the story, characters and music. this is not necessarily an issue with RPGs as such, more with their remarketing in a pared-down, intensely individualistic form Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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a bone to pick posted:Alright you fuckers, I'm going to get Prey because it sounds real good. Do it man. It's seriously System Shock 3 with a different name and slightly different setting. I've been glued to it since trying it out a couple nights ago.
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ilmucche posted:I'll take the 30-ought-6. Heh, I totally forgot it was a 30-06. Ideal for a silent takedown.
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Flubby posted:I went full human and didn't look back and it's really powerful. The way you can stack abilities is ridiculous. You can crouch for the sneaking bonus, buy up that combat bonus, buy up the gun bonuses, and just one shot most things with a shotgun. Or 10 shot things down really fast with the silenced pistol. I tried a second play through and got about half-way in going full alien powers and....ehhhh. They didn't feel as good to me. Oh and the fully upgraded shock gun just obliterates bots later, and is always nonlethal for humans, so you don't need powers for that either. Also if you take the alien powers the alien dna in your system will cause the turrets to start recognizing you as an enemy unless you hack them But the game is really well balanced either way. In contrast to what this guy did, I went with mostly hacking abilities and alien powers, and the level 3 exploding brain power is ridiculously good bc it shuts down typhon psi abilities (so the huge floating guys become a joke) and does enough damage to one-shot vaporize the basic phantoms. And it's even better if you find the side mission to make the whole station's water supply psychoactive, so that drinking from a sink recharges a huge chunk of your psi energy And yeah it really is System Shock 3 in all but name. You even start out with a wrench and the first code in the game is duhh GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Heh, I totally forgot it was a 30-06. My first time through Deus Ex I upgraded rifles as quickly as possible and stuck the first silencer you come across (plus every accuracy and recoil mod I found) on the sniper rifle, and by the time you go to Hong Kong it's comically easy. The only thing stopping you from *pew*ing every bad guy in the game from a hundred yards away in the shadows is the lack of sniper rifle ammo. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jul 13, 2017 |
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canpakes posted:I miss the old kind a video game where they were actually puzzles and stuff. Now every game you have to do some stupid questions like collect 20 huge green grapes to proceed. It's pathetic and I miss the old games Such classic Deus Ex puzzles as "use code on keypad", "use key on door", and "use hacking and lockpick skill to open door without using key"
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Casimir Radon posted:I didn't realize GMDX won't let you silence the regular pistol so I was dropping upgrades on it until I got a silencer and it kind of ruined my day. Also all the new upgrades they created apparently aren't in 8.0. Uhhhh yeah you can
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Guy Mann posted:Such classic Deus Ex puzzles as "use code on keypad", "use key on door", and "use hacking and lockpick skill to open door without using key" Use a GEP Gun take down on Manderly
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etalian posted:OMG JC a bomb! A bomb!
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i don't know about you guys, but i enjoy exploring detailed 3d environments in games such as Deus Ex, Prey, and Dishonored. There are some sneaky sneaky hidden secrets in Prey if you look really hard.
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a bone to pick posted:Alright you fuckers, I'm going to get Prey because it sounds real good. prey is good but i dont think its quite what these gentlemen itt make it out to be
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a bone to pick posted:Alright you fuckers, I'm going to get Prey because it sounds real good. I tried playing ap once and got stuck at a hacking minigame that refused to work with my mouse for some reason and then never tried it again. PC port was terrible.
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The level design changes in Revision are confusing. The re designed new york hub is confusing as gently caress. Probably going to stick with GMDX.
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rocket_man38 posted:The level design changes in Revision are confusing. The re designed new york hub is confusing as gently caress. Probably going to stick with GMDX. just play vanilla
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There's really not a special ending for avoiding all alien powers? I guess I should be pleased  they do sound fun
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Neurosis posted:Uhhhh yeah you can
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the whole point of the stealth pistol is that you have to trade off between silence and power. the regular pistol is always more powerful but it can't take a silencer. jfc you guys did you even play the game
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silvergoose posted:I tried playing ap once and got stuck at a hacking minigame that refused to work with my mouse for some reason and then never tried it again. PC port was terrible. it requires being really gentle on the mouse but once you get the hang of it its easy
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Sagebrush posted:the whole point of the stealth pistol is that you have to trade off between silence and power. the regular pistol is always more powerful but it can't take a silencer. In gmdx you can silence the pistol.
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