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In fairness to DD even if there's not much explicit lawyering after the first few episodes the whole Ms. Cardenas subplot initially revolves around them trying to get worthwhile evidence to legally fight the eviction of her building Though it was still kind of a missed opportunity to never have Murdock and Fisk in the courtroom at the same time, hoping that's a thing in season 2
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I just wish they had honest-to-god storylines that were straight up legit cases that have nothing to do with the superhero stuff, other than competing for time&resources with it, but are compelling in their own right and treated as just as important because it's their day-to-day livelihood. I mean, one of the common criticisms of both shows if I recall is that there wasn't enough story to fit the number of episodes, leading to padding, so there's room for it.
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Jan 18, 2016 21:00
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DD's first episode ended like the pilot to a 'lawyer shenanigans of the week' show, right down to the 'we have no money but we'll continue to work together because we are friends' shtick. Like Angel with good guy lawyers or something. Maybe they should have started off a bit lighter and gone into their main plots more gradually in the second half of each series. But what do I know I'm not Netflix, Marvel, Disney or David Tennant. 
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Cactus posted:I just wish they had honest-to-god storylines that were straight up legit cases that have nothing to do with the superhero stuff, other than competing for time&resources with it, but are compelling in their own right and treated as just as important because it's their day-to-day livelihood. I mean, one of the common criticisms of both shows if I recall is that there wasn't enough story to fit the number of episodes, leading to padding, so there's room for it. You mean like the plot line in JJ where she tries to find the persons partner?
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I haven't gotten around to JJ yet but I thought Daredevil was paced pretty dang well, I'm not really sure what scenes or subplots could've/should've been cut in favor of adding more one-shot cases
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I've only seen the first episode of Daredevil and am relieved that it gets better, because it was screamingly average.
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I feel like I can't say that there should've been more case-of-the-week episodes because I really don't know if that would've made the show as a whole better or worse. All I know is that a lot of people would've bitched about "filler".
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Lycus posted:I feel like I can't say that there should've been more case-of-the-week episodes because I really don't know if that would've made the show as a whole better or worse. All I know is that a lot of people would've bitched about "filler". Oh for sure it probably would have made the show worse overall. I just think it's a shame that giving the series a coherent plot required almost completely cutting the non-coherent side of things.
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BSam posted:You mean like the plot line in JJ where she tries to find the persons partner? Yes more stuff like that. Daredevil needs it more though, I think. Not necessarily in the case-of-the-week format, just have more day-to-day job stuff running alongside the fantastical stuff would improve the balance for me.
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But that was almost universally agreed to be the worst part of the show.
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BSam posted:But that was almost universally agreed to be the worst part of the show. Who is this universal?
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BSam posted:But that was almost universally agreed to be the worst part of the show. Yeah, that was Jessica Jones's (the show, not the titular character) only flaw IMO. Too much Jessica investigating (which in this case meant dialogue-free, boring walking-around-scenes that drag on and on) in the early episodes. While in-character, it just felt like unnecessary padding to fill the 13-episode order. With chaff like that cut out the story would have fit in 10 flawless episodes.
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less laughter posted:Yeah, that was Jessica Jones's (the show, not the titular character) only flaw IMO. Too much Jessica investigating (which in this case meant dialogue-free, boring walking-around-scenes that drag on and on) in the early episodes. While in-character, it just felt like unnecessary padding to fill the 13-episode order. With chaff like that cut out the story would have fit in 10 flawless episodes. There will always be someone bitching about it.
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10 episode order doesn't have enough room to breathe or 13 episode order isn't tight enough.
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Well that leaves 11 or 12. We can do this people. We can Fix Television Forever.
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11.36 episodes is the ideal count.
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All that means is those sections needed improving, not that less of them were warranted.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What's a website that I can say "I watch these shows" and then it makes an iCal or exchange calendar for me to subscribe to so I know when all my shows air? I really like myepisodes.com, it lets me decide how far forward and back to keep track of unwatched episodes, and it can tell me that I've wasted at least 3 months, 1 weeks, 4 days, 23 hours, and 40 minutes of my life watching TV. Apparently if you want an iCal feed, though, you have to be a VIP (donate $2.50 a month).
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GreenNight posted:10 episode order doesn't have enough room to breathe or 13 episode order isn't tight enough. Either can apply depending on the specific story and it's a valid critique for many shows that get released via the binge watch model (as is the episodic vs. one long movie paradigm which gets brought up often in this context as well). Dismissing it as just bitching doesn't really add anything to the discussion or provide any insight.
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Making the whole season available at once isn't a binge watching model, it's a binge watching opportunity. One might say, a responsibility if you're finding your television experience negatively affected by consuming large quantities of a series in a brief period instead of pacing yourselves, you psychic fat fucks.
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No dummy, some binge watch model shows actually get written and produced with binge watching in mind, so it is valid to critique them as such. E.g. just having all episodes be one long movie instead of actual episodes.
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less laughter posted:Yeah, that was Jessica Jones's (the show, not the titular character) only flaw IMO. Too much Jessica investigating (which in this case meant dialogue-free, boring walking-around-scenes that drag on and on) in the early episodes. While in-character, it just felt like unnecessary padding to fill the 13-episode order. With chaff like that cut out the story would have fit in 10 flawless episodes. It's not like the count was sprung on them. It was set even before day one, they just failed to deliver.
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http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/westworld-production-shut-down-1201681678/ HBO closed down Westworld production for 2 months. poo poo is hosed.
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Mu Zeta posted:http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/westworld-production-shut-down-1201681678/ *punches entire arm through wall*
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Gonz posted:*punches entire arm through wall* They're still on track to premiere in 2016, but yeah, this has apparently been a tricky show to break.
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There's also the failed David Fincher/Utopia project. WTF HBO
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Snak posted:Well the end of each series is them establishing their business as solid with their back-story angst resolved... Good law rarely makes for good television unfortunately.
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Season 2 of Agent Carter starts tonight on ABC, suckas.
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The Iron Rose posted:Good law rarely makes for good television unfortunately. Besides, the snippets of legal stuff we saw in episode 3 was good enough to establish their legal credentials. They got off a guy who stone cold murdered a dude by arguing the facts of the case and using the claim of self-defense to reverse the burden of proof onto the prosecution, and Matt's closing argument was really good. We don't need a whole episode of Matlock here.
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I do hope we see a Matt Murdock Vs Carrie Anne Moss legal battle in DD2.
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Norwegian Rudo posted:In potentially awesome news, Nahnatchka Khan is trying to do a Don't Trust The B Christmas special: I want this very much please
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Mu Zeta posted:http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/westworld-production-shut-down-1201681678/ They did the same for THE LEFTOVERS. I'm sure they'll be fine.
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Holy poo poo Outlander took a dive off the quality cliff about 8 episodes in. ...do any of the good characters come back? because it feels like they're just gone. Like that part of the show is over. I hope that that isn't the case, but uh... it sure seems like it.
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Is the reverse thing a Youtube thing or a Japanese thing?
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Norwegian Rudo posted:In potentially awesome news, Nahnatchka Khan is trying to do a Don't Trust The B Christmas special:
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