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Bumble He posted:i dont know how they ever want to fix that. latency and lag is such an extremely important factor. i play lots of old consoles and also emulators of course. zero input lag is the holy grail of retro gaming, because emulators add lag and often hdtvs also. input lag is meassured in frames. 4 frames of input lag is considered a disaster. It may have been 'I have the supply and I'll CREATE the demand' sort of enterprise
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Popete posted:If it's a true MMO you'd think in the thousands in which case lol that is never going to happen. take a wild guess. spoiler: it involves unrealistic promises that will never see the light of day
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Jan 9, 2020 00:08
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Zaphod42 posted:Lmao if you think CIG can move players between servers dynamically like wow. Wow, drat. How the hell does Rexzilla manage to organize his streams, then? How do you even play with friends? Is there some way to choose what people you'll be grouped in a server with?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Wow, drat. How the hell does Rexzilla manage to organize his streams, then? How do you even play with friends? Is there some way to choose what people you'll be grouped in a server with? seriously
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Jan 9, 2020 00:28
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and no, if the server if full, your friends can't join. also the grouping / guild system is loving awful and pretty bare bones but ya know, early days
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quote:So with the next big release a lot of the underlying game is there and then we can look at transferring people between servers so we can have hundreds of thousands of people maybe in one instance, but that doesn’t come online until later. Erin Roberts to Wccftech published Feb 17, 2017
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yeah man hundreds of thousands of people in one instance with real time combat and complex physic reactions on player manipulated objects I can't imagine anyone reading that and believing a goddamn word of it
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Jan 9, 2020 00:33
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the servers and your client absolutely poo poo themselves if more than a few "large" ships engage in combat, let alone start firing missiles or blow up
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 Requested a refund days ago, and now Crytek vs SC lawsuit scary stuff. So i came back to 3.8 brought a pack hear a lot of good things, but consist crashes after crashes literally 3.8 is the most broken and buggiest to me. I have applied for a refund and still waiting no answer still, am scared to hear now there's another lawsuit involving these two companies. From watching and talking to others about SCs development and troubling financial past does bother me. Basically am trying to pull out get my money and run, now i hear about this lawsuit on SC i want to take my money and run. Am losing my faith in SC and there's plans. Never mind the rumour of SQ42 being pushed further back. [removed by moderators] Responses: You should probably educate yourself on the details of the lawsuit before passing judgement. Guy plays Fallout 76 but cant handle SC bugs, funny  Even outside of the frivolous lawsuit.... *CIG has biggest funding year ever* i hEarD CIg wAS iN fiNAnciAl tRouBLE They'll get back to you when they work through the holiday support backlog. Take your $45 and go kick rocks, CIG doesn't need it. Welcome to Alpha! I'm guessing we'll see you perhaps again in a year.....if not, on launch day.
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TheAgent posted:and no, if the server if full, your friends can't join. Star Citizen: Imagine the worst mess of a game you can. Its much worse than that.
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Dementropy posted:Guy plays Fallout 76 but cant handle SC bugs, funny It IS funny, dear redditor! Fallout 76 is a huge dumpster fire of a disaster. But its PLAYABLE. And features more than 50 players. LMAO. There are gameplay loops in Fallout 76. They aren't fun, but you can DO them. Far, FAR more than you can say about SC. The only reason F76 had a bigger public backlash is because nobody gives a poo poo about SC. The only people who even know SC exists are the people who are so sunk-cost they can't allow it to fail. Either you've invested $100+ in SC and NEED it to come out, or you couldn't give a flying gently caress about it. There are no casual fans following SC for 7+ years and thinking "yeah, I'll get this when it comes out"
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TheAgent posted:hello So CIG has been put on a Performance Plan? You know, like an employee for whom you need to build a paper trail before you fire them?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I don't think they're a game design company, right? To be fair, neither is CI(G).
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Dementropy posted:
It's the same lawsuit and CryTek is stalling because they have no chance of winning unless the judge doesn't understand software development.
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Quavers posted:Star Citizen now has a publisher It makes so much sense. Calder money invested. Sandi gone. Chris on camera only a half dozen times out of 2019 and more non-committal than ever about targets and dates. (A complete 180 after 6 years.) There was already a strong circumstantial case for Chris operating under some other party’s thumb. Calder money was pitched as the way to market Squadron for a big Summer 2020 release, but he can’t market what he doesn’t have a clue how to finish. 3rd party retained to fix the biggest mess in gaming history. Chris now trying to pretend it’s not Freelancer all over again, because both he and the backers refuse to believe he’s an incompetent relic incapable of delivering finished games all by his brilliant self. Also, if Crytek learned via discovery that other parties are assuming control to get Squadron cut down and shipped, why wouldn’t they want to wait? Squadron actually might have a chance of getting gutted and hammered down into a releasable thing if Chris got sidelined, the spec got downsized, and competent outside project managers / developers got the salvage duties. Sooner or later, Chris is going to have to update the official Squadron narrative again. Even if he doesn’t come right out and admit he smashed the “in case of emergency” glass. I’d be amazed if we don’t get a new Squadron story in the next month. TheAgent posted:the devs spin up a sever for him, he invites people and they server kick out anyone not down to play pretend that day Uh, excuse me, I was assured by no less than authority than Jade Starwatcher herself that this was just an Alex Jonesian theory with no basis in fact. What we witnessed was simply the new era of Star Citizen, and fear of the new leads to salt. Stop being salty, dammit!
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Pixelate posted:Erin said 1000 player server meshing is happening in 2019. Stayed tuned! They dropped that from 1600. They’re getting *so close* now. 0 to 60 in seven years.
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Grubby Hobo posted:So CIG has been put on a Performance Plan? Double-secret probation. Delta Chi will regret their hijinks!
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TheAgent posted:hello This is good for Star Citizen. There is definitely some third party pulling the strings in some way and Chris and Sandi are being pushed further into the background. A Freelancer scenario with a quasi publisher takeover would be really fitting. Though an ending with Chris trying to keep all of the plates spinning until the last possible second would be funnier. I can just imagine Baghdad Lando on a live stream pounding the table and yelling that CIG isn’t insolvent, just as we see the sheriffs enter the building in the background. At the last possible moment Clifford/Miku buys a new Idris variant for $1200, finally reaching $100k in total spending. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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Hav posted:0 to 60 in seven years. I'd imagine a car designed by CR to have the same performance.  It would be hosed by having 23 wheels and only half a driveshaft turning them, not to mention the 37 reverse gears (with overdrive) but only 1 straight cut forward gear, that has more missing teeth than a bad bare knuckle boxer, an exhaust system that comes pre-packed solidly from manifold to tail pipe with potatos, an engine that couldn't turn a spoon in yogurt, and a choice of 42 accelerator pedals, all mounted for convieniance on the front bumper, upsidedown. I could go into the techical details of such a mothorbvehicle, but I fear I would get carried away with unenthusiasm. (I'm sorry, but at the same time, I'm not)
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peter gabriel posted:hi, it's year 9 of the development of our revolutionary space mmo that cost a quarter of a billion dollars, we are going to launch an experimental server that has 60 players instead of 50, we realise this is a huge increase but hopefully we can handle it. PS. Please don’t look at the elevators PPS. Stop asking where the money went. What is money anyway?
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Sabreseven posted:I'd imagine a car designed by CR to have the same performance. 
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Sabreseven posted:I'd imagine a car designed by CR to have the same performance. But it would have technology that other cars could only dream of like argon.
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Meanwhile, on /r/Gaming... Teaching my friend how to mine, I think he's getting the hang of it!  What game is that? Star Citizen. Without a doubt, the worst game in the history of video games that is the most worth it to try out in it's current state. It's still totally broken after 8 years of development and $262,706,101 sunk into it and completely lacks any real gameplay of any kind whatsoever. That said, it's massive and incredibly impressive, and one of the most mind-blowing gaming experiences you will ever have even though it's garbage. I would never even recommend it to my worst enemy because it is so trash, however, it is truly incredible and I highly recommend giving it a shot for the "space tourism" aspect of it. Edit: For those confused. Yes. You spent a bunch of money on a pre-alpha game and now you're mad that it didn't live up to your expectations, that's your fault. I totally agree it's a buggy mess atm, but there is plenty of content and things to do in the game. Woo! I found a straggler from the /r/starcitizen subreddit. BACK TO WHENCE YOU CAME SCUM! For the rest of your, here we have a nice clear example of the toxicity* of the Star Citizen community and probably the single best reason NOT to get involved with the game. If the community wasn't so infested with complete twats that blatantly assault the intelligence of anyone who speaks anything aside from the highest praise of the game, I would recommend the game to more people.* = link to FTR's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0QK7AREz_U 
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TheAgent posted:hello I missed these.
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Dementropy posted:
Probably didn't even try eating a bag of dicks first
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This year player count is up 20% !!! After 8 years player count has only reached .0375% of its goal of 1600... and it's only a first alpha test ...so dosent really work.
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As usual, I thought the "now we're testing 10 more players, but don't get your hopes up," was a joke post. It would clearly have to be, since that only adds up to 60 players. If WOW had 60 players per server you could play for a week and be lucky to see another person. If everyone was spread throughout all the zones you'd be lucky to find one even if you went looking. That's like 7 players per expansion. But Star Citizen will be the biggest, a universe in size! One where you'll never see another player as long as you live. They might as well just claim to be an MMO, and just release a single-player game with a chat window. When people complain they can't see their friends, CIG can tell them the game is just that big, and they're probably communicating their coords to each other wrong. No, no, it's the other pizza cart in Port Fuckstick. Once we meet up we'll have an epic bounty hunting criminal multicrew territorial fleet battle with nobody else for no stakes on a crashing server.
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TheAgent posted:and no, if the server if full, your friends can't join. the grouping system is so loving bad that every time I even think about going "lol we should do another goon stream" I end up just pounding a nail through my dick because it's easier and more fun
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Beet Wagon posted:the grouping system is so loving bad that every time I even think about going "lol we should do another goon stream" I end up just pounding a nail through my dick because it's easier and more fun I can sell you a picture of a hammer that provides multiplayer capabilities for nailing dicks. Concept only! $1000. No refunds!
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ggangensis posted:Yeah, but changing the player-limit constant from 50 to 60 is probably the only thing their competence allows for these days. And even that is a stretch. My immediate question is, this apparent 20% increase in client capacity… …how large a portion of that is just down to universal increased hardware performance in the period since the 50-client cap was rolled out?
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"Oops, the size of this array was hardcoded to 50 instead of using the player limit constant and now we have strange memory corruptions. Time for the bugsmashers!"
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Tippis posted:My immediate question is, this apparent 20% increase in client capacity… Intern: Mr Space, Mr Space! I figured out how to reduce our server costs by 20%! /types: sv_maxplayers 60
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The whole 50 person limit is funny since it only matters because they made it matter. If everything else in Star Citizen was fine and good, and had 100 star systems and you were shunted to a different server for each system and it had all the functioning systems it wouldn't matter. WoW was never, ever better when you had 200 people inside your rear end. But citizens didn't know that. They had to be taught dumb poo poo to repeat dumb poo poo.
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An Imbecile on Frontier Forums can't see why 50 player caps are an issue posted:Well, since 1 ship will be handled as a separate virtual server and different sections of said ship can then be cut into other different virtual servers i do not see the problem...until everyone decides to crowd the bridge... This pretty much encapsulates why Store Citizer can continue to shamble on while being a zombified corpse. 90 days tops would be an accurate assessment if Citizers had any critical thinking at all.
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Scruffpuff posted:One where you'll never see another player as long as you live. They might as well just claim to be an MMO, and just release a single-player game with a chat window. When people complain they can't see their friends, CIG can tell them the game is just that big, and they're probably communicating their coords to each other wrong. NMS tried this, but it didn't fly because internet streamers truly have no life
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Spiderdrake posted:The whole 50 person limit is funny since it only matters because they made it matter. Yeah, with a powerful enough dynamic matchmaking system, you could get away with never really having more than like 20-40 players in a single space, and still have the feeling of being in a massive world with millions of other players who you could play with at any moment. That's what Destiny tries to be, to mixed success. But nobody at CIG knows how to architect a game server or an MMO environment, all they can do is pile things on top of base crytek FPS code, so they will never get there.
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Dementropy posted:if not, on launch day. Chances are non-existent.
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Spiderdrake posted:The whole 50 person limit is funny since it only matters because they made it matter. Its early days tier 0.
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Thoatse posted:Probably didn't even try eating a bag of dicks first Nothing wrong with a tour of dick snacking.
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