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Take your time--as much as we've been enjoying the LP, real life always takes precedence.
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Hirayuki posted:Take your time--as much as we've been enjoying the LP, real life always takes precedence. Agreed. Appreciate the update, but take whatever time you need to deal with what you've gotta deal with. We'll be waiting when you get back, 'cause this is a drat good LP of a drat good game.
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Feb 15, 2014 07:20
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No problem, just do what you can when you can. We're all happy to continue getting free entertainment regardless of the schedule.
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Feb 15, 2014 23:45
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Sweet. Nice to know it isn't abandoned. Take your time dude. Hope you fix stuff up soon.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:05
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Quick, someone get Elizabeth to open a tear into a world where the videos have already been posted!  Unfortunate side effect, we are all dead. 
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Feb 16, 2014 14:38
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Dooky Dingo posted:Quick, someone get Elizabeth to open a tear into a world where the videos have already been posted!
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Feb 22, 2014 01:00
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If Momstock was some kind of mega psychic, that does explain what Comstock was able to forgive her for. Like, going out of control and destroying a town with their own graveyard or something.
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Feb 24, 2014 06:41
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Does this mean when you play with the tear machines right before meeting Elizabeth, they were zapping her too?
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Vnat posted:Does this mean when you play with the tear machines right before meeting Elizabeth, they were zapping her too? I think the entire statue-structure had been slowly draining her power over quite a long time (according to the graph we saw there) to keep her manageable, so when you did that you were just using some of that stored up juice. In the Lady Comstock case, this was a rather more abrupt drain.
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Feb 24, 2014 16:56
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Podima posted:I think the entire statue-structure had been slowly draining her power over quite a long time (according to the graph we saw there) to keep her manageable, so when you did that you were just using some of that stored up juice. Ah. That seems slightly less cruel.
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Feb 24, 2014 17:27
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 Hey it's an update! Thank you all for being patient/understanding. Things still aren't necessarily sorted out in my life but I think I should be able to wrangle together updates more frequently now. No promises because I'd just feel like a dick if I promised.  (Also I seem to have inadvertently fixed that irritating problem of false-positive save error pop-ups which would almost instantly boil my blood when trying to record)
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Feb 28, 2014 19:45
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I see that Booker is still slamming that elevator button with his wounded hand. I still cringe every time Good to have you back Sundowner.
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Feb 28, 2014 21:38
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ah, so THAT'S the deal with the Luteces. They're unstuck in time-space because Comstock sabotaged their machine (because he's a dick). Also, they pulled Elizabeth out of a tear when she was a baby, I guess? And Lady Comstock was bananas crazy.
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Mar 1, 2014 03:07
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I'm sorry, did you just call Blood to Salt "not that useful"?!
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Fedule posted:I'm sorry, did you just call Blood to Salt "not that useful"?! You're right, I thought it was something else at the time. I didn't realize it was what it was when I was recording. I'm good at being oblivious to things staring me in the face sometimes. I might switch to it next update, actually.
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Mar 1, 2014 04:15
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I bookmarked this thread when it started but forgot about it until a couple weeks ago and marathoned through it. I've enjoyed the discussion and I'm glad to see it's back. I'm curious to see what people will come away with from this game, as my opinion has shifted since I first picked it up. I can't wait to read people's reactions and thoughts as the LP goes forward. In any case, well done Sundowner. Also, if anyone hasn't heard, Irrational is closing its doors and Ken Levine and a small team are going to be working on some new and different things, which is exciting.
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When I saw the "Lutece Laboratory" I expected some answers rather than further questions, but it's a nice bit of symbolism that the tip of the machine which Lutece claims birthed Elizabeth without carnality penetrates into the bedroom. Also, I appreciate how Elizabeth coughs when near fires. Neat touch. And thanks for showing off what happens when falling off Colombia, Sundowner. I had wondered about that on several occasions.
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Mar 1, 2014 07:26
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Sundowner posted:You're right, I thought it was something else at the time. I didn't realize it was what it was when I was recording. I'm good at being oblivious to things staring me in the face sometimes. I might switch to it next update, actually. To be honest, in my latest playthrough I had the same situation - I was wearing the clothing that increased the ammo your gun could fire before reloading but came across the Blood for Salt clothing. I had already brought the upgrades for the powers I found useful that reduced the cost of the salt, and I found the extra ammo to fight Handymen more useful than the increased likelyhood of finding salts. Maybe it would be more helpful on Hard or 1999 Mode?
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Mar 1, 2014 12:52
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Part the Eighteenth:
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So Elizabeth is a wee babby kidnapped from a tear, grown up in the wrong reality? And Comstock somehow... untethered both Luteces from reality/time/space? Is that why they can appear anywhere and anywhen? Is that why their graves were empty - they were missing, presumed dead?
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Mar 1, 2014 14:45
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GenHavoc posted:I noticed that you can have Elizabeth summon a water puddle. What's the purpose of that? An electrocution target? Pretty much, yes. A little call-back to the previous games, I guess! Edit: v v You could be right. I hadn't played the game in some time so I had assumed I got to 10. Sundowner fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Mar 1, 2014 14:58
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Sundowner, I believe you may be able to take another shield and another salts infusion. The number shown during their menu isn't what you have but what you get when you choose it. Worth trying next time you come upon one, a little more shields are always useful.
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Mar 1, 2014 16:33
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GenHavoc posted:Part the Eighteenth: Remember when Lutece, a bunch of Voxaphones back, called Elizabeth a "child of science?" Perhaps that was meant literally, and she came of this device. Which, as ynohtna points out, penetrates into the bedroom (which I can't help but notice only has one bed... Um, ew.)
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resurgam40 posted:Remember when Lutece, a bunch of Voxaphones back, called Elizabeth a "child of science?" Perhaps that was meant literally, and she came of this device. Which, as ynohtna points out, penetrates into the bedroom (which I can't help but notice only has one bed... Um, ew.) There are doors leading to other parts of the house which are blocked with grates and inaccessible.
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resurgam40 posted:Remember when Lutece, a bunch of Voxaphones back, called Elizabeth a "child of science?" Perhaps that was meant literally, and she came of this device. Which, as ynohtna points out, penetrates into the bedroom (which I can't help but notice only has one bed... Um, ew.) It's not incest if it's your quantum twin. I think.
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Quantum incest both is -- and is not -- incest, simultaneously, until the judgement potentiality is collapsed by the opinions of the observer.
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Genetically I can't imagine that a child produced from the union of your gender-swapped alternate self from a different timeline would result in a viable human being.
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Arguably, it'd be masturbation. Literally having sex with oneself.
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ynohtna posted:When I saw the "Lutece Laboratory" I expected some answers rather than further questions, but it's a nice bit of symbolism that the tip of the machine which Lutece claims birthed Elizabeth without carnality penetrates into the bedroom. there were some important answers given in the Voxophones. 1. Elizabeth is NOT Comstock's child 2. She was pulled from a tear by Lutece. 3. Comstock tried to kill the Luteces. 4. Instead, they became unstuck in the time-space continuum, explaining their sporadic appearances throughout the game in different places. 5. Due to their condition, whatever goal they were trying to achieve, possibly some sort of larger experiment, must instead be given to Booker, who for whatever reason is the only one who can do it. They are definitely the ones who blackmailed Booker into going to Columbia to retrieve Elizabeth. What we still don't know about the Luteces is mostly their motives in any of this. What are they trying to achieve?
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Spatula City posted:What we still don't know about the Luteces is mostly their motives in any of this. What are they trying to achieve? Imma hazard a guess that they're trying to fix things; I've been getting the impression that they're not at all chill with how Comstock has been using their technologies and this whole thing with Booker and Elizabeth smells a lot like their attempt to throw a wrench in Comstock's plans for the ultimate purpose of bringing down all of his putrid accomplishments, starting of course with the most prominant symbol of his cult and his most powerful tool; Elizabeth.
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Neruz posted:Genetically I can't imagine that a child produced from the union of your gender-swapped alternate self from a different timeline would result in a viable human being. I am right in thinking that if they are genetically identical other than the X and Y chromosome, that each chromosome pair has a 50% chance for being the same as the parents? Like Chromosome 1 having 1A and 1B. Mother 1Ax 1Bx and Father 1Ay 1By give you 1Ax 1Ay, 1Ax 1By, 1Bx 1Ay, 1Bx 1By 1Ax 1Ay and 1Bx 1By are likely not viable (or completely messed up) 1Ax 1By, 1Bx 1Ay are effectively the same (And yes, the chances of all 23 pairs working out this way is like .00000011920928955 for each child)
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I would expect that if you had two beings genetically identical except for the X\Y chromosone attemtping to generate offspring from them would result in horrific mutations and failures from inbreeding; getting two copies of the same DNA does not a healthy human being make, usually at least. You might occasionally just get a straight up clone.
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They've been exposed to this stuff a lot more than Comstock, given they invented it. So the chances of them producing a child are likely nil.
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Roctavian posted:until the judgement potentiality is collapsed by the opinions of the observer. That is the weirdest euphemism for busting a nut I have ever read.
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AJ_Impy posted:Arguably, it'd be masturbation. Literally having sex with oneself. I think 4chan could tell us definitively.
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Spatula City posted:5. Due to their condition, whatever goal they were trying to achieve, possibly some sort of larger experiment, must instead be given to Booker, who for whatever reason is the only one who can do it. They are definitely the ones who blackmailed Booker into going to Columbia to retrieve Elizabeth. Remember the signboard Robert was wearing at the start of the game, when they made Booker to do the coin toss? Methinks the Luteces aren't just assigning Booker to fix their mess, but probably all of the Bookers in all of space and time. Simultaneously.
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GenHavoc posted:So if Comstock was sterile, and Elizabeth not their daughter, then whose daughter was she? My money of course is on Booker, given previous allusions, but Lutece indicates she was... summoned perhaps by her machine? From where? Another reality I suppose, but that hardly tells us much. Obviously she is from a reality where she is the daughter of Booker and Comstock. 
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Sundowner, are you using Winter Shield? I found that gear to be terribly overpowered, yet quite fun at the same time.
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:Remember the signboard Robert was wearing at the start of the game, when they made Booker to do the coin toss? Methinks the Luteces aren't just assigning Booker to fix their mess, but probably all of the Bookers in all of space and time. Simultaneously. That would make sense, given their unique position the best way to ensure that at least one Booker succeeds would be to send all Bookers. Presumably they only need Booker to succeed once for whatever it is they're planning.
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Neruz posted:That would make sense, given their unique position the best way to ensure that at least one Booker succeeds would be to send all Bookers. Presumably they only need Booker to succeed once for whatever it is they're planning. That seems like a really inefficient use of their time...
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