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Gort posted:So what's the point of attacking Saudi Arabia? Oil. It's always oil. Also to make sure we don't end up the in historical situation where we really love the Saudi family even though they're awful people.
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The Sauds weren't that bad until they won the RA Rx fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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January/February 1942, Axis impulse 4, planning: Weather: There is a +1 modifier from the previous weather roll. The d10 roll is 6, increased to 7. There is snow in the Arctic and North Temperate areas; storm in the Mediterranean and South Monsoon areas; clear weather in all other areas. The end of turn value is currently at 2. If the turn does not end, the impulse track moves up 3 spaces. There is a +1 modifier added to the next weather roll. Declarations of war: The Axis make no declarations of war this impulse. Germany will choose a land impulse. They will have no naval moves, 4 air missions, 3 rail moves, unlimited land moves, and unlimited land attacks. Italy will choose a combined impulse. They will have 1 naval move, 3 air missions, 1 rail move, 2 land moves, and 1 land attack. Japan will choose a naval impulse. They will have unlimited naval moves, 2 air missions, no rail moves, no land moves, and no land attacks. Japan plans to move 1 convoy from the Marianas to the Coral Sea:  Japan plans to move one or two of the carriers from Truk to the Coral Sea:  Japan plans to search for the Allies in the Marshalls:  Japan plans to move the transport and amphibious unit with the marine and infantry unit from Rabaul to the Coral Sea:  Japan plans to move ships from Batavia to the Arabian Sea and areas of the southern Indian Ocean and search for the Allied convoys:  Japan plans to move the Myoko from Osaka to the Marshalls:  Japan plans to return the transport carrying the paratrooper unit to base in Canton:  Italy plans to search for the Allies in the Eastern Mediterranean:  Italy plans to move a sub unit from La Spezia to the Cape St Vincent and search for the Allied convoys:  Italy plans to search for the Allies in the Bay of Biscay:  Germany plans to move units in Western Europe:  Germany plans to move land units in the Caucuses:  Germany plans to move land units in Poland:  Germany plans to move land units along the Moscow front:  Germany plans to rebase bomber units in southern Russia: 
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RA Rx posted:drat the Axis AA. Gort posted:So what's the point of attacking Saudi Arabia? silvergoose posted:Oil. It's always oil. RA Rx posted:The Sauds weren't that bad until they won the Red Mosque siege and then the King went total apeshit and decided to cave in to the extremists. will_colorado fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Where's my boat again?
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Where's my boat again? She's in San Francisco being repaired. She will be redeployed at the start of the March/April turn.
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Do we have any more carriers to send to the Eastern Med? We gotta kill
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RA Rx posted:Do we have any more carriers to send to the Eastern Med? We gotta kill the Courageous is in Malta, but with the storm in that area currently, don't want to risk sending it out until the weather is better..
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RA Rx posted:Storms can hurt carriers in this game? Storms prevent aircraft, and it would be very worthwhile for the Axis to send a bunch ships after the aircraft carrier without it's main weapons available.
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Oh right, they wouldn't need to spend points first just to make it surface combat and could get right to spending points to select targets. Thanks!
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RA Rx posted:Storms can hurt carriers in this game? Ardeem posted:Storms prevent aircraft, and it would be very worthwhile for the Axis to send a bunch ships after the aircraft carrier without it's main weapons available. RA Rx posted:Oh right, they wouldn't need to spend points first just to make it surface combat and could get right to spending points to select targets.
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*grumble* Italians performed 70% of a save above expected damage control there, while we did 60% below. Also another +40% and -50% in aborts. (Though I went one Italien search roll point from being sunk on the follow-up... 10% chance they find us and get 3 surprise points per storm search.) At least by sacrificing our crappy expendable cruisers we're even in 3/3 factors lost and 2/0 in damaged. We'll run out of expensive little meatshields tho... If the turn doesn't end now with the Axis I think it'll be our first turn that ends before reaching 10%x10 chances. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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January/February 1942, Axis impulse 5, planning: Weather: There is a +1 modifier from the last weather roll. The d10 roll is 4 increased to 5. There is snow in the Arctic and North Temperate areas; rain in the Mediterranean area; storm in the South Monsoon area; clear weather in the North Monsoon and South Temperate areas. There will be a +1 modifier to the next weather roll. If the turn does not end this turn, the impulse track will move up two spaces. The end of turn value is currently 5. Declarations of war: The Axis make no declarations of war this impulse. Germany will choose a combined impulse. They will have 1 naval move, 6 air missions, 1 rail move, 6 land moves, and 3 land attacks. Italy will choose a combined impulse. They will have 1 naval move, 3 air missions, 1 rail move, 2 land moves, and 1 land attack. Japan will choose a combined impulse. They will have 2 naval moves, 4 air missions, 1 rail move, 3 land moves, and 1 land attack. Japan plans to move the mountain unit in Burma:  Japan plans to search for the Allies in the Marshalls:  Japan plans to invade Brisbane with the marine and infantry unit from the Coral Sea. The carrier plane unit on the Zuiho will fly air cover.  Japan plans to search for the Allied convoys in Cape Natuarliste:  Japan plans to search for the Allied convoys in the SE Indian Ocean:  Japan plans to search for the Allied convoys in the SW Indian Ocean:  Japan plans to search for the Allied convoys in the Arabian Sea:  Italy plans to search for the Allies in the Eastern Mediterranean:  Germany plans to move the naval bombers in northwestern France to the Bay of Biscay and search for the Allies:  Germany plans to move the ships in Brest to the North Atlantic and search for the Allies:  Germany plans to move the units in the Caucuses to the Turkish border:  Germany plans to move the anti-tank division in southern Russia: 
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RA Rx posted:*grumble* maybe they'll have better luck this time? also, Turkey about to join the Axis
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Whoah!? Australia!? Here's to some extra units spawning (or a pilot and transport kill), I hope. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Sep 1, 2016 |
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rooting for the allies is boring
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:rooting for the allies is boring Never not bash the fash. 
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I'm rooting for the Ottomans
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Due to the weather the search rolls receive a +1. The Axis search roll is 3 increased to 4. The Allies search roll is 4 increased to 5. Only the Axis are successful, with their units in the 4 box. They will attack the convoys and units in the 0 box. The Axis will have (4+5) (0+3) 6 surprise points.  The combat is a naval air combat. The Allies fly the carrier planes on the escorting ASW units as fighters. The Allies are at -1 on the air combat table. The Axis are at +1. The Allies 2d10 roll is 10, which clears through the first Axis bomber. The Axis 2d10 roll is 12, which has no effect. Each side aircraft remains. The Axis remain at +1; the Allies -1. The Allies 2d10 roll is 19 which shoots down the Axis bomber. The pilot is lost. The Axis 2d10 roll is 15, which aborts the front Allied fighter. Each side remains. The Axis remain at +1; the Allies -1. The Allies 2d10 roll is 9, which clears through the remaining attacking bomber. The Axis 2d10 roll is 10, which has no effect. The two attacking bombers attack initally with 3 air-to-sea factor each. Due to the weather, their attack values are halved, it leaves 1 from each. The Allies have 1 AA factor from 15 ships -(2 ASW units + 5 oil tankers/21 convoys) There is not enough AA factors to turn away the attacking units. The Axis initial attack result is 1 damaged and 1 abort. The Axis spend their six surprise points to increase their attack reusult to 1 sunk, 1 damaged, and 1 abort. The Axis attack 2 American convoys for the sunk result. The convoys are sunk  The Allies apply the damaged result to the Canadian ASW unit. Her defense value is 9. The d10 roll is 2. She is damaged and remains at sea. The Axis attack 1 American convoy for the abort result. She is aborted to Liverpool. Each side remains in the sea zone. The Axis will include their subs in the search roll. The Axis flip another one of the German bombers face down to search again. (the previous bomber used to search was the destroyed bomber) The Axis search roll is 6 increased to 7. The Allies search roll is 8 increased to 9. Neither side finds the other. -Germany flips the Koln face down to search for the Allies in the North Atlantic:  Due to the weather the search rolls receive a +1. The Axis search roll is 9 increased to 10. The Allies search roll is 8 increased to 9. Neither side finds the other. -Italy flips the Gorizia face down to search for the Allies in the Eastern Mediterranean:  Due to the weather, the search roll receives a +1. The Axis search roll is 10 increased to 11. The Allies search roll is 6 increased to 7. Neither side finds the other. -Japan flips the Kinugasa face down to search for the Allied convoys in the Arabian Sea:  The Axis search roll is 4. The search is not successful -Japan flips the Ashigara face down to search for the Allied convoys in the SW Indian Ocean:  The Axis search roll is 10. The search is not successful. -Japan flips the Takao face down to search for the Allied convosy in the SE Indian Ocean:  The Axis search roll is 3. The search is successful. The Allies search roll is 5. The Axis will have (3+5) (0+3) 5 surprise points. The combat is a surface combat. Japan has 7 surface factors from 2 ships against 1 convoy. The Axis initial result is 1 damaged. The Commonwealth convoy unit is destroyed. No Allied units remain in the sea zone. -Japan flips the Maya face down to search for the Allied convoys in Cape Naturaliste:  The Axis search roll is 2. The search is successful. The Allies search roll is 2. The Axis will have (2+3) (2+0) surprise points. The combat is a surface combat. Japan has 6 surface factors from 2 ships against 1 convoy. The initial attack result is 1 damaged. The 1 Commonwealth convoy point is sunk. No Allied units remain in the area. -Japan flips the Chikuma face down to search for the Allies in the Marshalls. The sub unit will not be included in the combat search roll:  The Axis search roll is 9. The Allies search roll is 2. Only the Allies are successful with all of their units. The Allies will attack the Axis units in the 2 box. The Allies will have (4+9) (2+2) 9 surprise points. The combat is a naval air combat. Only the Allies have aircraft included. The Allies have the carrier plane unit flying as a bomber, and two naval bomber units attacking. The Allies initially have 9 air-to-sea factors from 3 bombers. The Axis have 11 AA factors from 7 ships. The lowest one of three d10 rolls are the number of attacking bombing factors turned away. The d10 rolls are 1, 1, and 5. 1 attacking air-to-sea factor is turned away. The initial Allies attack result is 1 sunk and 2 damaged. The Allies spend 6 surprise points to increase the attack result to 2 sunk, 2 damaged, and 3 aborts.  The Allies attack the Yamato for the first sunk result. Her defense value is 0. The defense roll is automatically successful. She is damaged and remains at sea. The Allies spend their 3 remaining surprise points to apply the second sunk result to the previously damaged Yamato. She will sink.  The Allies attack the Hyuga for the first damaged result. Her defense value is 3. The d10 roll is 2. She is damaged and remains at sea.  The Axis apply the second damaged result to the Ise. Her defense value is 3. The defense roll is 7. She is aborted to Truk.  The Allies attack the Mustu for the first abort result. Her defense value is 3. The defense roll is 4. She remains at sea.  The Axis apply the second abort to the Fuso. Her defense value is 3. The d10 roll is 8. She remains at sea.  The Allies attack the Yamashiro for the last abort result. Her defense value is 3. The defense roll is 8. She remains at sea. Each side remains in the sea zone. The Axis search roll is 9. The Allies search roll is 10. Neither side finds the other. 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The Axis 2d10 roll is 14, which aborts the Commonwealth bomber unit. Japan is attacking with a combat ratio of 5:1. The initial combat modifier is +10. That is reduced to +9 due to the hex being a city. There are no additional modifiers. Commonwealth defends on the assault table. The 2d10 combat roll is 8, increased to 17. The result is 1/1. The invasion is successful. Japan loses 1 unit. The attacking infantry unit is destroyed. The remaining attacking units are flipped face down. Japan moves into the hex. (this increases Australia's production multiple this turn) The aircraft return to base on the carrier and to Sydney.  Aircraft rebases: -Germany rebases a Stuka unit to the Caucuses:  -Italy rebaes a bomber unit to Greece:  No HQ reorganization is done. The end of turn value is currently 5. The d10 roll is 7. The impulse marker is flipped to the Allies side. 
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RZApublican posted:This is looking like a fun impulse phase already.  KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:rooting for the allies is boring silvergoose posted:Never not bash the fash. COOL CORN posted:I'm rooting for the Ottomans will_colorado fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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will_colorado posted:-Japan flips the Chikuma face down to search for the Allies in the Marshalls. The sub unit will not be included in the combat search roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
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Ouch, the IJN is getting mauled even more than historical. The rolls have not been lucky for all the Axis navies actually. Will we see some production shifts to compensate?
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will_colorado posted:The Allies attack the Yamato for the first sunk result. Her defense value is 0. The defense roll is automatically successful. She is damaged and remains at sea. Ah hahahaha, of course. There's one ship never being rebuilt. The IJN is getting curbstomped.
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OperaMouse posted:Ouch, the IJN is getting mauled even more than historical. The rolls have not been lucky for all the Axis navies actually. Much as I love the spectacle of sinking the Yamato (and it is truly fabulous spectacle) it wasn't a critical strategic piece. Sinking any IJN carrier would have been a more valuable accomplishment They just successfully invaded mainland Australia without needing its big guns for bombardment, allied shipping is getting mauled very well and the USSR stands a solid chance of falling before the end of '42; the war is a long way from over atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Excellent.UberJew posted:Much as I love the spectacle of sinking the Yamato (and it is truly fabulous spectacle) it wasn't a critical strategic piece. Sinking any IJN carrier would have been a more valuable accomplishment True, but these draws and non-carrier defeats have been going on for a while now, with only a few exceptions. If it wasn't for the Pearl result the IJN would be in deep trouble, and in another ten-twelve months all those carriers will have been rebuilt. It would've been almost even if the turn had ended and resources had been lost, except the Axis need major naval victories, but as those convoys will be replaced the damage bill is about 5/14 I think (7 for Yamato IIRC, 3 for one German Pilot, 3 IP for the Condor fighter-bomber, 1 IP for repairing the Kinugasa, versus 4 convoys and 1 IP for repairing the ASW) A double exchange is acceptable for the combined Axis navies. 14/5 is a major disaster, those screens, battleships, and pilots don't grow on trees like they do in America. The immediate effect is even worse, losing warships over convoys. - I guess Tito isn't going to run (unless he's trying to waste their time). Isn't a mountain better than a city? RA Rx fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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RA Rx posted:Excellent. Yeah, its a blow but it isn't like losing the Yamato means japan loses 7 IP, they just aren't going to replace it. They lose having a big gun platform but that's worth a lot less than just about any other way Japan could spend 7 IP Besides, the resource swing of knocking out the USSR will be dozens per turn every turn, and knocking out Australia will go a long way if they manage that too
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Looks like the Regina Marina is doing better than the IJN in this timeline. Not the way I would have expected ever.
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Uber Jew: True. America will definitely have to knock out Japan entirely if Germany takes out the USSR and strangle Italy's factories so its just German units. The Yamato was valuable as more than 11/4/4 surface/AA/bombardment factors though, it was also an armor platform for soaking up 2 aborts or 1 damage at the end of a turn without consequence and even standing in to save lesser battleships from a sinking. We had to spend 2 sinkings and 3 surprise points just to ensure it would go away. (3 sinkings, 1 damage and 3 surprise points including the first time it got damaged) I think Australia will be fine. The Japanese just landed, losing one unit (another 3 IP, for 5-17 this round, plus Australia getd 1 more IP, for 4-17) against a notional defender. They've occupied Brisbane, but they're just sitting there with 2 points. Response will probably be swift and strong. It'd have been worse if Japan had gotten a double turn. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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January/February 1942, Allies/Communists impulse 5, planning: There is snow in the Arctic and North Temperate areas; rain in the Mediterranean area; storm in the South Monsoon area; clear weather in the North Monsoon and South Temperate areas. Declarations of war: The Allies/Communists make no declarations of war this impulse. Commonwealth will choose a naval impulse. They will have unlimited naval moves, 3 air missions, no rail move, no land moves, and no land attacks. All other nations on the Allied side will pass to add a -1 modifier to the end of turn roll. Commonwealth plans to move 3 convoys points from Belfast to the Bay of Biscay and 1 convoy down the convoy chain to the Western Mediterranean:  Commonwealth plans to move 1 convoy from Liverpool down the convoy chain to replace the previously sunk convoy in the SE Indian Ocean:  Commonwealth plans to move the Swordfish and Beaufighter naval bomber units from southern England to the Bay of Biscay:  Commonwealth plans to move the Sussex from Edinburgh to the North Atlantic:  Commonwealth plans to search for the Axis in the Bay of Biscay:  Commonwealth plans to moves ships from Halifax to the North Atlantic and search for the German units:  Commonwealth plans to transport the Canadian garrison unit from Halifax to England:  Commonwealth plans to move the transport carrying the Canadian Hurricane fighter unit to the Western Mediterranean:  Commonwealth plans to return the transport carrying the Royal Marines unit in the Western Mediterranean to base in Syria:  Commonwealth plans to search for the Axis units in the Eastern Mediterranean: 
will_colorado fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 4, 2016 09:56
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 OperaMouse posted:Ouch, the IJN is getting mauled even more than historical. The rolls have not been lucky for all the Axis navies actually. Claverjoe posted:Ah hahahaha, of course. There's one ship never being rebuilt.  Yeah, the IJN just got embarrassed there. UberJew posted:Much as I love the spectacle of sinking the Yamato (and it is truly fabulous spectacle) it wasn't a critical strategic piece. Sinking any IJN carrier would have been a more valuable accomplishment RA Rx posted:Excellent. Tito is just fine for now holding in Belgrade, he may get moved in a bit. UberJew posted:Yeah, its a blow but it isn't like losing the Yamato means japan loses 7 IP, they just aren't going to replace it. They lose having a big gun platform but that's worth a lot less than just about any other way Japan could spend 7 IP wedgekree posted:Looks like the Regina Marina is doing better than the IJN in this timeline. Not the way I would have expected ever. RA Rx posted:Uber Jew: True. The US spent their big advantage to sink that bastard, hopefully they don't have to see her again. It's still going to be at least another year before the Musashi is completed. Australia should be fine, agreed. It's going to be difficult for Japan to get more support there for that marine unit. The Commonwealth can build Australian territorial units and militia that would appear immediately to hold off Japan. will_colorado fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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So why exactly did Glorious Nippon seek action in the Marshalls to begin with? It seems like their fleet was scattered across multiple zones, vulnerable to defeat in detail, and with key units lacking any kind of air support. Is there some sort of hidden gimmick in the combat system that could have done as much damage to the Americans if the dice results had somehow been swapped?
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Bacon In A Wok posted:So why exactly did Glorious Nippon seek action in the Marshalls to begin with? It seems like their fleet was scattered across multiple zones, vulnerable to defeat in detail, and with key units lacking any kind of air support. Is there some sort of hidden gimmick in the combat system that could have done as much damage to the Americans if the dice results had somehow been swapped? If they'd been the ones to get a ton of surprise points like that they could have made the combat a surface combat and ignored the planes
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I think they're trying to save oil and orders, and keep a reserve, by not placing out all their units (the US does so as well to a lesser degree, by virtue of having less carriers atm., both sides seem to be going for par by choosing combined impulses and using the remaining orders to shuttle troops around and attack China/Vladivostok/Australia and the Middle East respectively). There was some air cover (I spot a Nell there), but the Japanese roll was bad enough the Allies managed to avoid it (guess the Nell was from an island because I don't think we'd ignore carriers, unless there were a lot more of them). But yeah, bad luck. will_colorado posted:sounds like your advocating an early application of Operation Downfall. My impression is that a lot of a major power's strength is their access to units (which does a good job of representing manpower). If the USSR falls we'll need to find some way to keep the Axis from ballooning out of control. The Italian factories due to their vicinity to our bombers and Japanese sea lanes (and eventually main isles) due to their isolation from their allies do seem to be the clear weak points. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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January/February 1942, Allies/Communists impulse 5, attacks and results: There is snow in the Arctic and North Temperate areas; rain in the Mediterranean area; storm in the South Monsoon area; clear weather in the North Monsoon and South Temperate areas. No port attacks are made. Naval air missions: -Commonwealth flies the naval bomber units to the Bay of Biscay:  Naval movement: -Commonwealth moves ships from Halifax and Edinburgh to the North Atlantic:  -Commonwealth moves the carrier Indomitable to the Bay of Biscay:  -Commonwealth moves 1 convoy to the Western Mediterranean:  -Commonwealth returns the transport in the Western Mediterranean to base in Syria:  Italy does not attempt to intercept the unit. -Commonwealth moves the transport carrying the Canadian Hurricane unit to the Western Mediterranean:  -Commonwealth moves 1 convoy down the convoy chain to the SE Indian Ocean:  -Commonwealth moves 3 convoys to the Bay of Biscay:  -Commonwealth transport the Canadian garrison unit to Newcastle on the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth ocean liners:  Naval combat: -Commonwealth flips the Galatea face down to search for the Axis units in the Bay of Biscay:  The Axis will not include the subs in the combat. Due to the weather, the search roll receives a +1. The Allies search roll 8 increased to 9. The Axis search roll is 5 increased to 6. Neither side finds the other. -Commonwealth flips the Fiji face down to search for the Axis units in the North Atlantic:  Due to the weather, the search roll receives a +1. The Axis will include the subs in the combat. The Allies search roll is 1 increased to 2. The Axis search roll is 1 increased to 2. Both sides find the other with their units in the 2 box and higher. Neither side will have an advantage in surprise points (1+3) (1+3). The combat is a surface combat. The Allies have 24 surface factors with 14 ships. The Axis have 72 surface factors with 21 ships. The Allies initial attack result is 1 sunk, 2 damaged, and 1 abort. The Axis initial attack result is 3 sunk, 1 damaged, 1 abort.  The Axis apply the first sunk result to the Konigsberg. Her defense value is 8. The defense roll is 8. She is sunk.  The Axis apply the damaged result to a sub unit. Her defense value is 7. The defense roll is 4. She is damaged and remains at sea.  The Axis apply the second damaged result to another sub unit. Her defense value is 8. The d10 roll is 8. She is damaged and remains at sea.  The Axis apply the abort result to a sub unit. Her defense value is 6. The defense roll is 9. She remains at sea.  The Allies apply the first sunk result to the Belgian ship Artevelde. Her defense value is 8. The defense roll is 2. She is sunk.  The Allies apply the second sunk result to the Curacoa. Her defense value is 8. The d10 roll is 8. She is sunk.  The Allies apply the last sunk result to the Colombo. Her defense value is 8. The defense roll is 7. She is sunk.  The Allies apply the damaged result to the Hawkins. Her defense value is 7. The d10 roll is 5. She is damaged and remains at sea.  The Allies apply the abort result to the Danae. Her defense value is 8. The defense roll is 10. She remains at sea. Each side remains in the sea zone. The Allies search roll is 5, increased to 6. The Axis search roll is 8, increased to 9. Neither side finds the other. -Commonwealth flips the Renown face down to search for the Axis ships in the Eastern Mediterranean:  Due to the weather, the search roll recieves a +1. The Allies search roll is 3, increased to 4. The Axis search roll is 2, increased to 3. Both sides find the other with all of their units. (the Allies are successful with all of their units, not just the 4 box due to the 3 box having a naval bomber unit) The Allies will have (2+4) (2+3) 1 surprise point; that cannot change the combat result. The combat is a naval air combat. Only the Allies have an available aircraft unit. The Allies have 1 air-to-sea factor from 1 bomber. (the rain halves the attacking air-to-sea factors) The Axis have 14 AA factors from 12 ships. The lowest one of three d10 rolls are the number of AA factors turned away. The d10 rolls are 10, 3, and 4. The attacking air-to-sea factor is turned away. Each side remains in the sea zone. The Allies search roll is 6 increased to 7. The Axis search roll is 3 increased to 4. Neither side finds the other. No strategic bombing or carpet bombing missions are done. No rail movement is done. No land movement occurs. No air transport is done. No units are debarked from a sea zone. No amphibious invasions are made. No paradrops are done. No land combat occurs. No aircraft rebases are made. No HQ reorganization is done. The end of turn value is currently 5. The d10 roll receives a +1 modifier. The end of turn roll is 2 increased to 3. The turn will end.
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