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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Replied,

quote:

Edward,

Thank you for keeping me up to date on the situation. I can't say I'm not disturbed. I agree it would be wise to await further clues before doing anything drastic.

Does Budgie the Helicopter mean anything to you? Sara mentioned it in passing in her IMs, and I figure everything might be important in this case.

In that vein, where is the letter postmarked?

Knud

I figure a little white lie (about Budgie) won't give away too much.

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UnctuousSerendipity
Jun 2, 2006

Too much scotch in my hop apparently

KatWithHands posted:

Ohhh poo poo!

Though she doesn't really seem to be in much distress in those pictures. And what happened to her shaved head?

They could be photos from a while ago (pre shaved head). Is the guy in the picture her ex boyfriend? Generally speaking people only tear up pictures when there is either some sort of intense hatred/disgust/pain associated with the subject in the photos, or complete apathy (such as- this is a lovely picture let me toss it).

mix.lunar
Aug 15, 2007

Skipjack posted:

There is no way at this point that this is not an ARG. For shits and giggles you should mail him back and say that you think this is totally messed up and you are gonna call the cops RIGHT NOW, see how he responds.

That's rude. Not to mention he'd probably just go to someone different and lose us this awesome opportunity at being hero's. Plus, think about it. If you call the cops for some chick that went missing and you don't even know her, you'll probably get arrested for false information. I'm sure the guy has thought of that.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



UnctuousSerendipity posted:

They could be photos from a while ago (pre shaved head). Is the guy in the picture her ex boyfriend?

Eddy doesn't know him, but he mentioned the boy she moved to the country with had a shaved head, not that that means much. Could be them both from before the head shaving or a different guy.

Cutty
Jun 9, 2006

checkmeat

Carthag posted:

New post, because: :siren: EMAIL :siren:

You know, I'd say that's a pretty good reason to involve the police. It's actually really suspicious that he says not to contact the police.

Also, do they mark the post office the letters are sent from in the UK?

Edit: holy crap beaten

intervoid
Nov 1, 2004
This seems like an odd piece of the puzzle if it is an ARG. How would these further the storyline, other than creating fear?

KatWithHands
Nov 14, 2007

intervoid posted:

This seems like an odd piece of the puzzle if it is an ARG. How would these further the storyline, other than creating fear?

I think that's an excellent piece for creating fear. Because then when the real clues come in, we'll be all the more eager to solve them.

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


This is one of the best (hopefully) ARG's I've ever seen - there's a definite sense of purpose and urgency to it, aside from just "Keep decoding things and you'll get a .gif that says congratulations at the end!"


Can anyone make out the text on the envelope, that isn't obscured by the pen?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:siren: EMAIL :siren:

quote:

Knud,

It's no problem. The local police station is sending a car past my mother's flat every hour or so, and it seems I am staying here for the night. I've told them about the "threats" we received, but little else. It is rather disturbing.

Budgie the Little Helicopter was a British kid's TV show that was on in the mid-90's, I think. The Duchess of York wrote it. I would have been 17 at the time, Sara about 10. I suppose I vaguely remember it airing, quite childish but then again it was aimed at six year olds. Funny that she should mention it, I can't think of a reason as to why she would.

The letter was postmarked London.

Cheers,

Edward

intervoid
Nov 1, 2004
So he "called" the police?

Klauser
Feb 24, 2006
You got a dick with that problem!?!

intervoid posted:

This seems like an odd piece of the puzzle if it is an ARG. How would these further the storyline, other than creating fear?

It's an ARG. Maybe creating fear is precisely the point of this update.



Also, isn't 'You'll get what's coming for you' incorrect?

Skipjack
Sep 11, 2007

I prefer a quiet station,
thank you.

mix.lunar posted:

That's rude. Not to mention he'd probably just go to someone different and lose us this awesome opportunity at being hero's. Plus, think about it. If you call the cops for some chick that went missing and you don't even know her, you'll probably get arrested for false information. I'm sure the guy has thought of that.

You're right. I wasn't seriously suggesting he should do it, just illustrating my point that this is clearly an ARG, and the bit about the police serves to allow the player and the gamemaster to indicate to each other that they know what's up without seriously breaching the immersion of the game.

When I notice these sorts of things in any kind of game, my first instict is to try to break the game, to test the boundaries and see how robust it is v:shobon:v

Mephiston
Mar 10, 2006

Klauser posted:

It's an ARG. Maybe creating fear is precisely the point of this update.



Also, isn't 'You'll get what's coming for you' incorrect?

that bugged me as well, considering the rest of the sentence was grammatically correct.

Maybe it's just part of the fear angle, considering that it would imply that something (like a person) was coming after him, not just an idle threat as 'what's coming to you' would imply.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:siren: EMAIL :siren:

I got this in the budgie email, but I can't tell if it's a goon or not. It's from ichkannihnenhelfen@x.y (I can help you)

quote:

Sie sind ein Pfandgegenstand in seinem Spiel gerecht Stoppen

Sie jetzt, bevor es zu spät ist

My german is really bad, but as far as I can tell it means "You're a deposit bottle in his game stop immediately before it's too late" or similar. Someone who speaks German better should translate.

Edit: Replied with "Entschuldigung, meine Deutsch sind nicht so gut. Wer meinen Sie? Wessen Spiel?" (My attempt at "Sorry, I'm not so good at German. Who do you mean? Whose game?")

Also, I wrote back to Edward:

quote:

Edward,

It's good to hear that you and your mother will be safe. I'll try my best to figure everything out.

Knud

Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Dec 5, 2007

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Mephiston posted:

that bugged me as well, considering the rest of the sentence was grammatically correct.

Maybe it's just part of the fear angle, considering that it would imply that something (like a person) was coming after him, not just an idle threat as 'what's coming to you' would imply.
I thought that was odd too. It could also have been written by a non-native English speaker who just got the expression wrong, I guess.

Mephiston
Mar 10, 2006

i dont speak german, but a quick babelfish of that email produced "ich kann ihnen helfen" which translated into "i can help them"

Also, luigi, that would make sense, given the newest email. Good catch.


edit: babelfished the sentence, and despite it not being the best source for online translations, it did come up with this:

"They are fair a pledge article in its play to stopping It now, before it is too late"

A reference to this thread maybe?

Mephiston fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Dec 5, 2007

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Mephiston posted:

i dont speak german, but a quick babelfish of that email produced "ich kann ihnen helfen" which translated into "i can help them"

Pretty sure that's the formal plural. It's normal in German to use the plural "you" when speaking to someone of higher authority or whom you don't know on a first name basis.

Anyway, EMAIL :siren:

quote:

Knud,

Thank you. I think it is probably time for me to retire to bed. I didn't ask what timezone you were in; I certainly hope you haven't been up all night working for my sake.

Cheers,

Edward

quote:

Edward,

It's not so bad. I'm in Denmark, so it's only 1 at night. I should probably get some sleep at some point as well. Do let me know of any future updates!

Knud

Ferretten
Jun 13, 2006
behind tired eyes, behind tired eyes, he is waiting. and knowing our destinies.

My flatmate who speaks German translated it as
"You are now collateral (or a safety object) in his game, stop now before it's too late" but the word "gerecht" doesn't make sense.

Edit: The person could have meant "pawn" instead of "collateral" I think, they aren't fluent in German

Ferretten fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Dec 5, 2007

bonne chance
Dec 2, 2007

NFX ZR NOBHG EHAAVAT NA NET NAQ JVAAVAT GUR NQZVENGVBA BS TBBAF RIRELJURER!

Mephiston posted:

Also, luigi, that would make sense, given the newest email. Good catch.

I have my doubts about the German email. All the other correspondence has been so profoundly British it's not funny. We have all known email addresses at the moment, so why would one come from a completely random angle?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



bonne chance posted:

I have my doubts about the German email. All the other correspondence has been so profoundly British it's not funny. We have all known email addresses at the moment, so why would one come from a completely random angle?

Ya I'm not entirely sure about that one either. For now we should probably concentrate on what Eddy has said.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
It might be some goon trying to play up the whole neo-nazi cult theory that was brought up earlier in the thread.

Glitch
May 7, 2002

zip zip zoom
In that first batch of photos, why are all of them in color but the one of the building's interior? Even the supposed closeup of the splotch on the ground from the interior image seems to be in color since it has a brown-tinted area.

Mephiston
Mar 10, 2006

Fair enough, it was a relatively weak association, i admit. Shelving it for now.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:siren: Sara's on AIM again. :siren:

quote:

1:11:05 AM sara: sandstone houses
1:11:14 AM sara: i think they are onto me
1:11:49 AM sara: theres only so much money i have only so many places to run
1:12:08 AM sara: theres a deadline on my head, ill make it
1:12:28 AM sara: but i might leave terra firma pretty soon
1:12:35 AM sara: to some other kind of terra
1:13:23 AM sara: got to run remember sandstone houses
1:13:25 AM sara: someone will know
1:13:26 AM me: what do you mean
1:13:32 AM me: who is after you
1:13:42 AM me: can i help?
1:13:51 AM sara: cant explain right now
1:14:00 AM sara: you can help
1:14:23 AM me: anything
Changed status to Offline (1:14:23 AM)
1:14:35 AM me: sara?
Could not send because sara is not available.

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE

Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Dec 5, 2007

intervoid
Nov 1, 2004
This is moving eerily fast.

Tongsy
Aug 22, 2007
One thing that is bugging me, if I haven't actually missed an explanation of this in the thread, is how did Edward Northwood get your email address to get in contact with you?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Tongsy posted:

One thing that is bugging me, if I haven't actually missed an explanation of this in the thread, is how did Edward Northwood get your email address to get in contact with you?

My email address was at the end of Sara's email to Edward, so he thought I knew her.

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


Well, obviously email her brother asking if sandstone house means anything.


Damnit, man, hurry people's lives are at stake!

Also, if she's leaving dry land to go to some sort of other land... what could that mean?

UnctuousSerendipity
Jun 2, 2006

Too much scotch in my hop apparently

Glitch posted:

In that first batch of photos, why are all of them in color but the one of the building's interior? Even the supposed closeup of the splotch on the ground from the interior image seems to be in color since it has a brown-tinted area.

That's been bothering me as well. If the "closeup of the splotch on the ground" really was that, I feel like that photo would also be in black and white to illustrate the connection. Also if you take that photo and rotate it 90 degrees counter clockwise it almost looks like a bear with water running at its feet. Maybe a cave of some sort. Although the upper part is not defined.

River Raid
Apr 2, 2004

GODDAMN I AM A HUGE MORON! WITH A JETPLANE OF STUPID!

Llama posted:

It might be some goon trying to play up the whole neo-nazi cult theory that was brought up earlier in the thread.

Nope, Im just watching the thread and trying to see the significance of the weird picture with the 9s.

edit: but the german may denote a 3rd party is now getting involved to make itself known at a future time.

River Raid fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Dec 5, 2007

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



SgtScruffy posted:

Well, obviously email her brother asking if sandstone house means anything.


Damnit, man, hurry people's lives are at stake!

Also, if she's leaving dry land to go to some sort of other land... what could that mean?

Replied,

quote:

Edward,

I don't know if you're still awake, but Sara just contacted me again. She said someone was after her, and said to "remember sandstone houses" - "someone will know". Then she signed off again.

Do you know what she means?

Knud

Edit: "leave terra firma" = die?

Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Dec 5, 2007

Nerdlord Actual
Apr 14, 2007

Awaken to your true self with Wisconsin Potatoes
Grimey Drawer
Terra firma is earth, buddy. So, I think so, yes.

:f5:

daveb29
May 21, 2007
SMD

Verdafolio posted:

efb: That is what I get for answering a friend's question about Java.

Anyone else see a flag? Of course it could be a flag for anyplace in Europe that has that cross design. Perhaps it is a flag for a specific city or town.

Along these lines the clouds are only on the left hand side of the "flag", does this suggest color pattern, or was it just a coincidence that the clouds are only in the left most squares of the photo? Perhaps she wanted to emphasize blue and white? I'll be damned this is intriguing.
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Weezy88
Sep 25, 2006

Llama posted:

It might be some goon trying to play up the whole neo-nazi cult theory that was brought up earlier in the thread.

This is funny because I keep reading Edward Northwood as Edward Norton for some reason.

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


Carthag posted:

Replied,


Edit: "leave terra firma" = die?

I figured that, but she says she'll be going to some other terra - is that essentially saying somewhere in the afterlife, or perhaps a more literal translation is necessary?

River Raid
Apr 2, 2004

GODDAMN I AM A HUGE MORON! WITH A JETPLANE OF STUPID!

Carthag posted:

Replied,


Edit: "leave terra firma" = die?

Most likely, many cults beleive in killing themselves in order to "leave the earth" and go party with aliens.

UnctuousSerendipity
Jun 2, 2006

Too much scotch in my hop apparently
In the b/w picture is it just me, or does the chair look blurry. More so than it should even with digital zoom. Is there something underneath the chair?

KatWithHands
Nov 14, 2007

SgtScruffy posted:

I figured that, but she says she'll be going to some other terra - is that essentially saying somewhere in the afterlife, or perhaps a more literal translation is necessary?

Maybe the cult she's in is Heaven's Gate 2.0?

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

SgtScruffy posted:

I figured that, but she says she'll be going to some other terra - is that essentially saying somewhere in the afterlife, or perhaps a more literal translation is necessary?
Maybe. She said "some other kind of terra," as in terra that's not firma - maybe a swamp or marsh or something? Dammit, red herrings all over the place.

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River Raid
Apr 2, 2004

GODDAMN I AM A HUGE MORON! WITH A JETPLANE OF STUPID!

daveb29 posted:

Along these lines the clouds are only on the left hand side of the "flag", does this suggest color pattern, or was it just a coincidence that the clouds are only in the left most squares of the photo? Perhaps she wanted to emphasize blue and white? I'll be damned the is intriguing.
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Blue and white with a Nordic Cross would be an allusion to Greece. But it seems unlikely at this point.