DGK2000 posted:

DGK2000 posted:

And there hasn't been a gnawing since night talking so I suspect it's one or the other. Or maybe he needs to recharge it with "nightmares" which are the talking, since night hags in history were nightmares. And sleep paralysis.

Sub Rosa posted:

Only night we didn't have night talking was N1 so far, but that was his first opportunity to trigger night talking for the next night? So since we could talk N2 that means his N1 action was to trigger talking the next night, not killing someone?

Or do you think that choosing to let people talk at night is actually a daytime action?

CapnAndy posted:

Your night actions have done harm to the town by preventing my actions, which I assure you are helpful.

Also how about any of the other points i made? You couldn't even gloss over those with a false equivalence.
If I was a strongman voodoo couldn't have stopped me and if I'm a ninja a watcher would see me target no one, which is inherently suspicious given that I've said my night action targets. C'mon, I expect this level of thoughtlessness out of voodo, but you're better than that.

In conclusion

Voodoofly posted:

Sorry I’m not swayed by your assurance that you are town and your power will help us. If only everyone who was town would make the same assurance we would have this game won. Like how do you make that argument in good faith to someone who has called you scum.

quote:

You also keep quoting the maigius stuff like you caught me in some lie. I don’t think maigius is scum, you do. But I’m also willing to throw out a possible reason how, if he was scum, he could fake an action or try to bluff results. Me comment about he could know what his scumbuds did re merk was a sarcastic way to disprove your argument that maigius could not be faking results. It was to call you scum for defending someone you thought was scum.

Voodoofly posted:

Actually there is one big difference: you don't need to actually know who they are if they out themselves.

No offense now I want you to say it before them so we can verify it.

CapnAndy posted:

...this is nonsense, are you suggesting he outed merk correctly by guessing

Voodoofly posted:

you aren't this dumb

When I'm scum I usually know what my scum team did.

quote:

Andy I’m not responding to you anymore. You are either completely disingenuous in how you read my posts or you are so in your head that you can’t see how anyone can see you’re actions and responses as scummy or even acknowledge your own contradictions.

Voodoofly posted:

you aren't this dumb

When I'm scum I usually know what my scum team did.

Voodoofly posted:

I don't think Maigius is scum

Voodoofly posted:

Andy I’m not responding to you anymore.

Voodoofly posted:

You caught me Andy bravo.

Voodoofly posted:

you aren't this dumb

When I'm scum I usually know what my scum team did.

Voodoofly posted:

I don't think Maigius is scum

Voodoofly posted:

You caught me Andy bravo.

nicer me posted:

There are many ways he could fake a night action Andy:

1. He could have been scum buddies with merk, and knew what merk did.
2. He could have performed his action night 1, and killed someone night 2, and wants someone to come forward and claim to provide him cover.
3. He could be on some different team that has a rolecop. Maybe they rolecop merk night 1 and, as he is facing the gavel, he takes an educated guess. This is something I do ALL THE TIME as scum. I did it in Good Place that we both were in when I knew Tom Tucker was a doctor from a scum buddies rolecop so I claimed that I saw "someone" target a cop that I didn't want to reveal, hoping he would assume I was talking about him. He confirmed it worked later on in dead chat. It was a guess but it was worth a shot.
4. Plenty of other things I'm probably not thinking about.

I have no idea if Maigius is doing any of those things. I believe him right now but why would I let him possibly pull a gambit when instead he can claim.

Furthermore, since you spent all night calling him scum I do not understand why you don't IMMEDIATELY think the same thing and, instead of questioning me about it, turn your guns full force on the person you yelled all night about being scummy

DGK2000 posted:

Squiggly, since Night Hags are malevolent creatures in mythology and every RPG ever. Also, just letting night talking happen and vanilla? That's hard to believe given literally every claim.

Mr. Humalong posted:

Quiet night this time around

Voodoofly posted:

You want to call a Twilight truce

quote:

, because at this point I really am starting to think you really believe 100% of what you are saying and you just don't see at all why I find it scummy. Despite what you think I'm not just trying to go after you for no reason, I really think some of the statements you've made are really off throughout the game. I'm now just trying to determine if they are scummy or just a complete different viewpoint.

quote:

Let's just take Maigius. You spent all twilight N2 saying he was still scum despite the merk flip. Cool, I don't agree with you but that isn't scummy in the slightest if you believe it. But then:

1. Maigius says "I'm giving whoever robbed that claim XX hours to come forward"

2. I say if he is going to out him regardless there isn't any difference between him just saying it now or letting someone else claim.

3. I immediately post after saying "wait, there is a difference in that it allows you to fake knowing who did it N2"

4. You then come in and say "what do you mean, you think he just guessed merk did it N1" insinuating that there isn't any way he might be lying about seeing N2, or might have known it was merk for some other reason.

In my mind, if I'm suspicious of someone there is NO WAY I give them that sort of latitude. I don't think he is scummy but I don't want to give him any latitude. There are multiple ways that he could fake a claim (see below) and I don't want to provide him those options and it BLOWS MY MIND that you, after saying how much you still find him scummy, aren't immediately suspicious as well. This is when I go back to quote all those posts and vote you.

5. I make the remark you keep quoting saying that one way he could know is if he was scum buddies with merk. I was being a jerk here because I was just pointing out the most obvious way a player could know someone else's night actions without using their role, and I still don't understand why I would have to say that. [I'm also sorry I said the thing about you being this dumb - I'm sure I've said it way too many times. I don't think you are dumb, I know you aren't just from playing with you off and on all these years]

6. We go back and forth at each other ad nauseum.

So, let me go back and redo that jerk post I made and see if you can see where I'm coming from:
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Does that help? That is why I think your response to me was scummy. It's why I voted you again. For what it's worth I hadn't voted you D3 until then because yes I did jail you twice and kills went through and I figured "maybe I'm just to focused on you." It was your complete lack of cynicism on Maigius, someone you found scummy, that I found scummy.

quote:

It's the same thing with Spoonsy: if I think spoonsy is scummy or "suspicious" or whatever there is no way I assume his vote charade makes him town and I can't understand how anyone else would feel the same. The fact that you just gave up and moved along looks crazy to me as a townie who is suspicious of someone.

quote:

It's the same thing with you thinking (1) Voodoo knows Andy didn't make a kill 2 nights in a row, if he votes him it's because he is scummy WHILE (2) Andy knows Voodoo didn't make a kill two nights in a row but YOU ARE VOTING ME ANYWAY. It's just such a huge contradiction in thought that it makes no sense to me - if you think not doing a kill 2 nights in a row clears someone why wouldn't it clear both of us? Again, for the record, I do NOT think either of us should be cleared because you were in my jail and I was jailing you while kills are happening.

quote:

LONG STORY SHORT: I'm at the point I think I just don't understand how you look at people when you play this game. I'm willing to back off at this point. Your actions have been so consistently "whatever" that I don't know if I can actually call them scummy anymore. They just make no sense to me. I'm sure you feel the same way about me as well.

Mr. Humalong posted:

Quiet night this time around

Sandwolf posted:

What’s everyone’s favorite dessert pastry AND breakfast pastry?

I like a chocolate croissant and then a brownie after din

Sandwolf posted:

What’s everyone’s favorite dessert pastry AND breakfast pastry?

I like a chocolate croissant and then a brownie after din

Amnistar posted:

The crew gathers at the break of dawn and finds, for once, only one body waiting for them...

DGK2000, Technopolis Magi-Tech Cult-Aligned Saboteur has been mauled by some kind of animal.

SKILL: Sabotage - Each night you can target a player. If the player has a TECH skill, they lose 1 instance of the item. If this would reduce the number of items to 0 before their ability resolves, then their action fails. If they have more than tech skiil, they will lose 1 of each item associated with that skill.

Sandwolf posted:

Ok so boogie didn’t kill anyone and the scumkill got blocked/docced/not used, nevermind, not that crazy

LordNad posted:

I believe his roleclaim. He'll only kill someone who visits his protect target.

CapnAndy posted:

Well there goes today's easy vote, but Sal getting vindicated is good.

Also thank you voodoo

Sandwolf posted:

Theorycraft: maybe Sal or boogie are odd night SK with an even night utility

Spoonsy posted:

I knew he was the better lunch choice for yesterday.

I guess we need to case new people?

Sal - any chance you did another group of 3 last night?

Voodoofly posted:

It's going to come up so I'll be up front: I jailed Boogie.

It was between him and DGK once night flipped. I was more suspicious of Boogie, but honestly the deciding factor was DGK was supposed to hand out the vest and I figured if he was doing that he couldn't do a kill.

Voodoofly posted:

It's going to come up so I'll be up front: I jailed Boogie.

It was between him and DGK once night flipped. I was more suspicious of Boogie, but honestly the deciding factor was DGK was supposed to hand out the vest and I figured if he was doing that he couldn't do a kill.