The US will lose WW3

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CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Hedenius posted:

Come on, I bet it's a very good and not the least bit racist book!

See! He's just simply saying that the uniquely Chinese custom of ripping off tourists is not as efficient as the western way where you never would do such a thing. And for very non racists reasons he has to mention that the Arabs are even worse.

Oh, so when he says "china hand" it's okay?

# ? Jun 20, 2024 19:55

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# ? Jun 27, 2024 16:21

corona familiar: Aug 13, 2021

Orange Devil posted:

You gotta be able to produce poo poo to be called an industry in my book. Otherwise you're just another bullshit artist aka marketeer.

they do produce poo poo :c00lbutt:

# ? Jun 20, 2024 20:09

Tankbuster: Oct 1, 2021

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

The literature on the insane physical violence in congress and the explosion of duelling tie both to the south becoming deranged over slavery, which for some reason caused personal honour to become a pathological obsession. I don't remember the exact details but even people at the time noticed that southerners were becoming increasingly violent, erratic, and sensitive to their personal dignity as various political crises over slavery began to emerge from about 1830 onwards.

e: here's one, The Field of Blood: Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War
(I hate this publisher, so pirate this poo poo)

Historian Joanne B. Freeman recovers the long-lost story of physical violence on the floor of the U.S. Congress. Drawing on an extraordinary range of sources, she shows that the Capitol was rife with conflict in the decades before the Civil War. Legislative sessions were often punctuated by mortal threats, canings, flipped desks, and all-out slugfests. When debate broke down, congressmen drew pistols and waved Bowie knives. One representative even killed another in a duel. Many were beaten and bullied in an attempt to intimidate them into compliance, particularly on the issue of slavery.

These fights didn�t happen in a vacuum. Freeman�s dramatic accounts of brawls and thrashings tell a larger story of how fisticuffs and journalism, and the powerful emotions they elicited, raised tensions between North and South and led toward war. In the process, she brings the antebellum Congress to life, revealing its rough realities�the feel, sense, and sound of it�as well as its nation-shaping import. Funny, tragic, and rivetingly told, The Field of Blood offers a front-row view of congressional mayhem and sheds new light on the careers of John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay, and other luminaries, as well as introducing a host of lesser-known but no less fascinating men. The result is a fresh understanding of the workings of American democracy and the bonds of Union on the eve of their greatest peril.

ee: Hmm, Tankbuster might appreciate this one, it draws a connection between India and the south: The Cult of Imperial Honor in British India

What was imperial honor and how did it sustain the British Raj? If "No man may harm me with impunity" was an ancient theme of the European aristocracy, British imperialists of almost all classes in India possessed a similar vision of themselves as overlords belonging to an honorable race, so that ideals of honor condoned and sanctified their rituals, connecting them with status, power, and authority. Honor, most broadly, legitimated imperial rule, since imperialists ostensibly kept India safe from outside threats. Yet at the individual level, honor kept the "white herd" together, providing the protocols and etiquette for the imperialist, who had to conform to the strict notions of proper and improper behavior in a society that was always obsessed with maintaining its dominance over India and Indians.Examining imperial society through the prism of honor therefore opens up a new methodology for the study of British India.

sick.

# ? Jun 20, 2024 20:26

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

it's just bog standard aristocratic or warrior caste right of violent retaliation against actual or perceived attacks on their privilege. every privileged warrior caste in history has a version of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiri-sute_gomen

_{us cops also have it}

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:05

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

their privileges are indefensible so they take challenges personally to feel vindicated in lashing out

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:07

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

The Oldest Man posted:

it's just bog standard aristocratic or warrior caste right of violent retaliation against actual or perceived attacks on their privilege. every privileged warrior caste in history has a version of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiri-sute_gomen

_{us cops also have it}

lmao this could describe what happens when a US cop kills someone for annoying them without a single word needing to be changed. Though we're now at the point where doctors aren't immune anymore and also get shot or hauled away.

quote:

Because the right was defined as a part of self defence, kiri-sute gomen had a set of tight rules. The strike had to follow immediately after the offence, meaning that the striker could not attack someone for a past grievance or after a substantial amount of time. Also, due to the right being self-defence, it was not permissible to deliver a further coup de gr�ce if a blow had been successfully applied. Anyone who was at the receiving end had the right to defend themselves by wakizashi, a situation most common in the case of a higher samurai exercising the right against a lower ranked samurai as those would always carry wakizashi.[1]

Some professions, like doctors and midwives, were not eligible targets for kiri-sute gomen while at work or heading to their workplaces, as their jobs often required them to push the boundaries of honor. This exception was called torinuke gomen (通り抜け御免, "authorization to pass first").[4]

In any case, the samurai performing the act had to prove that his action was right. After striking down his victim, the user was required to report the incident to a nearby government official, give his version of the facts and provide at least one witness who corroborated it, and he was expected to spend the next 20 days at home as a proof of contrition. The last one applied even after favorable verdict, although it is unclear whether it applied to the physical author of the death or his superior in case the kill was performed by proxy. Moreover, the homicidal weapon could be confiscated if an investigation was necessary or as a warning for a kill whose justification was feeble, and it was only given back after the 20 days.[1]

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:11

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Thoguh posted:

lmao this could describe what happens when a US cop kills someone for annoying them without a single word needing to be changed. Though we're now at the point where doctors aren't immune anymore and also get shot or hauled away.

yeah my favorite part is how samurai also had to go on administrative leave after murdering a peasant

it's word for word

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:15

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

A peasant mean has died in Kanto prefecture today after a samurai-involved slashing. The samurai has been stood down from duty for 20 days while an investigation is conducted.

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:20

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

goddamn thats uncanny

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:23

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Thoguh posted:

lmao this could describe what happens when a US cop kills someone for annoying them without a single word needing to be changed. Though we're now at the point where doctors aren't immune anymore and also get shot or hauled away.

quote:

A popular incident tells how a commoner bumped into Saiheiji Tomo, treasurer of the Owari-Tokugawa family, and ignored him further when Tomo demanded him to apologize. Feeling merciful, the samurai offered the peasant his wakizashi so he had a chance to defend himself, but instead, the commoner decided to run away with his wakizashi, causing further dishonor. The incident resulted in Tomo being disowned from the Owari-Tokugawa clan. He later regained his honor by seeking out the commoner, collecting the wakizashi and killing the whole family

also planting weapons on their intended victims and going after their families too

# ? Jun 20, 2024 21:23

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://x.com/WarshipCam/status/1802890155310690807

What's a little rust between friends.

# ? Jun 20, 2024 23:16

JAY ZERO SUM GAME: Oct 18, 2005; Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.

i thought the exterior of subs were very fancy sound absorbing materials

not rust maybe, but lots of material in terrible condition? idk

# ? Jun 20, 2024 23:17

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

no worries itll buff right out

e: as soon as we can secure some drydock time to do the buffing....

# ? Jun 20, 2024 23:20

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Danann posted:

https://x.com/WarshipCam/status/1802890155310690807

What's a little rust between friends.

that doesn't matter, its clearly above the waterline so not a big deal. if you understood anything about Ships, you'd know that.

# ? Jun 20, 2024 23:26

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

The most rusty subs can be sold to Australia anyway.

# ? Jun 20, 2024 23:29

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

The most rusty subs can be sold to Australia anyway.

*Leased

# ? Jun 21, 2024 00:03

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Danann posted:

https://x.com/WarshipCam/status/1802890155310690807

What's a little rust between friends.

thats just patina

# ? Jun 21, 2024 00:13

Kitfox88: Aug 21, 2007; Anybody lose their glasses?

captainbananas posted:

barnacle-jim-52

# ? Jun 21, 2024 00:18

Kitfox88: Aug 21, 2007; Anybody lose their glasses?

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

Avro, Canadair, Bombardier...

Nous reviendrons.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 00:19

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

CN CREW-VESSEL posted:

The literature on the insane physical violence in congress and the explosion of duelling tie both to the south becoming deranged over slavery, which for some reason caused personal honour to become a pathological obsession. I don't remember the exact details but even people at the time noticed that southerners were becoming increasingly violent, erratic, and sensitive to their personal dignity as various political crises over slavery began to emerge from about 1830 onwards.

e: here's one, The Field of Blood: Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War
(I hate this publisher, so pirate this poo poo)

Historian Joanne B. Freeman recovers the long-lost story of physical violence on the floor of the U.S. Congress. Drawing on an extraordinary range of sources, she shows that the Capitol was rife with conflict in the decades before the Civil War. Legislative sessions were often punctuated by mortal threats, canings, flipped desks, and all-out slugfests. When debate broke down, congressmen drew pistols and waved Bowie knives. One representative even killed another in a duel. Many were beaten and bullied in an attempt to intimidate them into compliance, particularly on the issue of slavery.

These fights didn’t happen in a vacuum. Freeman’s dramatic accounts of brawls and thrashings tell a larger story of how fisticuffs and journalism, and the powerful emotions they elicited, raised tensions between North and South and led toward war. In the process, she brings the antebellum Congress to life, revealing its rough realities—the feel, sense, and sound of it—as well as its nation-shaping import. Funny, tragic, and rivetingly told, The Field of Blood offers a front-row view of congressional mayhem and sheds new light on the careers of John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay, and other luminaries, as well as introducing a host of lesser-known but no less fascinating men. The result is a fresh understanding of the workings of American democracy and the bonds of Union on the eve of their greatest peril.

ee: Hmm, Tankbuster might appreciate this one, it draws a connection between India and the south: The Cult of Imperial Honor in British India

What was imperial honor and how did it sustain the British Raj? If "No man may harm me with impunity" was an ancient theme of the European aristocracy, British imperialists of almost all classes in India possessed a similar vision of themselves as overlords belonging to an honorable race, so that ideals of honor condoned and sanctified their rituals, connecting them with status, power, and authority. Honor, most broadly, legitimated imperial rule, since imperialists ostensibly kept India safe from outside threats. Yet at the individual level, honor kept the "white herd" together, providing the protocols and etiquette for the imperialist, who had to conform to the strict notions of proper and improper behavior in a society that was always obsessed with maintaining its dominance over India and Indians.Examining imperial society through the prism of honor therefore opens up a new methodology for the study of British India.

In otherwords, once a century a bunch of butthurt Southerners get taught that they need to shut the gently caress up

# ? Jun 21, 2024 00:20

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Slavvy posted:

A peasant mean has died in Kanto prefecture today after a samurai-involved slashing. The samurai has been stood down from duty for 20 days while an investigation is conducted.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 01:00

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

Slavvy posted:

*Leased

Landlordism for nuclear submarines.

Australian sub captains sending hundreds of emails to the Pentagon asking them to please fix the leaks, we are getting sick from the mould and damp, they are ignored until the end of the lease when they get sent a repair bill for returning the property in poor condition

# ? Jun 21, 2024 01:16

CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Slavvy posted:

A peasant man has died in Kanto prefecture today after a samurai-involved slashing. The samurai has been stood down from duty for 20 days while an investigation is conducted.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 02:04

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

Slavvy posted:

A peasant man has died in Kanto prefecture today after a samurai-involved slashing. The samurai has been stood down from duty for 20 days while an investigation is conducted.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 02:58

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/BAESystemsInc/status/1802740615924392036

when the mic is advertising modularity do they mean you can actually bolt and unbolt modules in the motor pool or is it a buzzword for stuff with common chassis and different module built at the factory

# ? Jun 21, 2024 03:21

CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Guess.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 04:43

Clip-On Fedora: Feb 20, 2011

Slavvy posted:

A peasant man has died in Kanto prefecture today after a samurai-involved slashing. The samurai has been stood down from duty for 20 days while an investigation is conducted.

Oh what so he wasn�t supposed to test out his new blade? What if some bandit comes at him and he hasn�t properly mastered a new sword technique? If you weren�t so ignorant and emotional you�d realize that Tsujigiri is a time honored tradition that saves lives.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 04:58

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

30-40 feral yama kujira

# ? Jun 21, 2024 06:16

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

You never unsheathe your katana without killing someone.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 09:02

SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Palladium posted:

you gotta be braindead to buy israeli weaponry by this point

You rang?

(Government gave literally all the artillery to Ukraine and ordered Elbit replacements. They have been delayed. Army has one artillery piece for training presently.)

# ? Jun 21, 2024 10:18

Wassbix: May 24, 2006; Thanks guy!

Palladium posted:

you gotta be braindead to buy israeli weaponry by this point

Kenya is currently getting mega ripped off on some Israeli missile defence and in return they also have to let Americans build a base inside Kenya

with their budget they can afford like 4 of them, which protects nothing lol

# ? Jun 21, 2024 11:08

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

Wassbix posted:

Kenya is currently getting mega ripped off on some Israeli missile defence and in return they also have to let Americans build a base inside Kenya

with their budget they can afford like 4 of them, which protects nothing lol

Don't forget being the colonial police in Haiti, a place where they don't speak the language, because of obvious reasons lmao

# ? Jun 21, 2024 11:12

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

yeah, arms sales within the imperial core and its various dependencies make no sense if you look at it from a national defense perspective, but funnily enough make perfect sense if you look at them as a form of imperial tribute

# ? Jun 21, 2024 11:17

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

brother kenya spare a sam

# ? Jun 21, 2024 11:31

CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Wassbix posted:

Kenya is currently getting mega ripped off on some Israeli missile defence and in return they also have to let Americans build a base inside Kenya

with their budget they can afford like 4 of them, which protects nothing lol

It will protect the American base

# ? Jun 21, 2024 12:19

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Cerebral Bore posted:

yeah, arms sales within the imperial core and its various dependencies make no sense if you look at it from a national defense perspective, but funnily enough make perfect sense if you look at them as a form of imperial tribute

This is the primary reason why I'm not fully convinced by Zodium's analysis that the term "vassal" is wrong to use in the US vs the rest of the west relationship and we should see the entire west entirely as a cybernetic capitalist system which doesn't care about nationality.

It doesn't explain the observable reality that all non-US (and I suppose non-Israeli) defense industries are being systematically disassembled in favour of channelling the orders to US firms.

Like, to be clear, having massive consolidation in the defense industry sector absolutely fits with the cybernetic model. Putting pressure on nation states to spend exorbitant amounts of money on "defense", funnelling public monies to (international) shareholders under the PR cover of security etcetc also makes perfect sense under the cybernetic model. But what doesn't make sense is that the companies these monies are channelled through are specifically American while the competitors being dismantled are specifically non-American. Even if the shareholders are international and thus again fitting with the cybernetic model (which I'm not even sure is entirely true, I wouldn't be surprised if the % of US shareholders in US defense industry companies is larger than the % of US shareholders in non-US western defense industry companies), it still seems like there (also?) something else going on here.

Zodium, explain yourself!

# ? Jun 21, 2024 12:48

CN CREW-VESSEL: Feb 1, 2024; 敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

France shut down their last small arms factory and turned it into a museum. NATO is so cooked because to get Germany and France onboard with NATO expansion in the 90�s and 2000�s, the US presented it as a cost savings because war is over. So they could end conscription, and production, cut their militaries, and bask in the spreadsheet economy, with the Poles, Czechs etc. providing a buffer with their huge remaining Eastern Bloc stockpiles.

# ? Jun 21, 2024 13:10

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://x.com/mamashami/status/1803911926470115370?t=T7KmsR_NRyDmvcaEASysyw&s=19

SINK THE loving BOAT!!!

loser rear end carrier name

# ? Jun 21, 2024 13:33

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Harry SS Truman

# ? Jun 21, 2024 13:44

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# ? Jun 27, 2024 16:21

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/BAESystemsInc/status/1802740615924392036

when the mic is advertising modularity do they mean you can actually bolt and unbolt modules in the motor pool or is it a buzzword for stuff with common chassis and different module built at the factory

They reinvented the 113? This is the best they could do? Someone paid them to do this lmao

# ? Jun 21, 2024 13:58

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