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Ok, found it on p21: "All monstrosities can make the slam, head-butt, and push power attacks. Heavy monstrosities can make the trample power attack." PP is relatively forward-looking in their design, so they're probably leaving that space for future expansion, but it seems like a weird distinction to make unless light monstrosities have been considered or there's more in the full list. and on p81 they talk a bit about "Exulon Thexus' theme force, which is featured in the upcoming Forces of WARMACHINE: Cephalyx." I mean that could just be the name of a PDF or magazine article, but it looks really book-ish. Have they said how the list is getting released? All I know is that it's coming out at L&L, which doesn't really line up with a NQ article or booklet pack-in.
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waah posted:General question: with the new errata that came out do the digital versions of books/cards in the Privateer Press apps automatically update to reflect errata entries? Cards in Warroom are auto updated; can't say about the books, but hopefully so. moths posted:Ok, found it on p21: PP thinks waaaaaaay far out into the future. In the fullness of time, barring a company collapse or other tramautic business event, there will be a Cephalyx book. There will be a Mark III. There will be a reason they renamed all those damned units in the errata. And yeah, there will be light Monstrosities.
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May 13, 2014 20:03
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Am I crazy or didn't they just flat out say Cephalyx is getting a book release in the reveal? As in "they're not in Vengeance, they're getting their own book". I can't double check right now but I was certain that a book was confirmed.
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May 13, 2014 20:16
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It will probably be a small No Quarter style book.
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May 13, 2014 20:19
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AttackBacon posted:Am I crazy or didn't they just flat out say Cephalyx is getting a book release in the reveal? As in "they're not in Vengeance, they're getting their own book". I can't double check right now but I was certain that a book was confirmed. They said that at templecon iirc
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May 13, 2014 20:46
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My impression was that there was going to be a digital Forces book released at their initial release, and then the paper release will be them included in the merc section of the next Warmachine book.
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May 13, 2014 20:47
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Whats the most forgiving hordes faction? Trolls?
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May 13, 2014 21:16
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DJ Dizzy posted:Whats the most forgiving hordes faction? Trolls? I'd argue Legion. They get to ignore Stealth and certain LOS rules.
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May 13, 2014 21:18
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DJ Dizzy posted:Whats the most forgiving hordes faction? Trolls? Personally I'd say Skorne or Legion, but others would probably know better than me. Definitely not Circle 
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May 13, 2014 21:18
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fool_of_sound posted:I'd argue Legion. They get to ignore Stealth and certain LOS rules. Legion gets to ignore lots of rules along with being relatively cheap to buy into.
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May 13, 2014 22:06
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GEMorris posted:Legion gets to ignore lots of rules along with being relatively cheap to buy into. Legion are really unforgiving if you don't know every threat range, though.
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May 13, 2014 22:37
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Incy posted:Legion are really unforgiving if you don't know every threat range, though. Your own threat range or your opponent's? You can ask. Learning this game isn't particularly easy with any faction.
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May 13, 2014 22:43
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Skorne is perhaps the only faction in all of Warmahordes that doesnt appeal to me
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May 13, 2014 23:21
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I feel the same way. I could comfortably see myself owning at least a small-sized contingent in every faction, except for Skorne.
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May 13, 2014 23:25
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I'm on board with everything but Legion and Skorne, for essentially the same reason. I realize what they were going for with the "near human" races(Blighted Nyss and Skorne), but in the end they just look poorly sculpted to me.
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May 13, 2014 23:29
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What are the Skorne guys, anyway? They remind me of Stargate Atlantis aliens.
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May 14, 2014 00:27
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Titans are loving awesome, and that can't even be disputed. They're reason enough for me to play Skorne. I don't think there's any faction I don't like part of. Hell I split a 2 player Hordes box recently and now I'm going to be painting up some Circle if I can ever get off my rear end and pick the brush back up. And then I'm looking at the new Merc Contract, and Earthbreakers, and I don't know who I am anymore. I just see myself sitting in a room with boxes full of unassembled armies, living in squalor.
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May 14, 2014 00:28
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moths posted:What are the Skorne guys, anyway? They remind me of Stargate Atlantis aliens. Mutated elves.
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May 14, 2014 00:28
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GEMorris posted:Mutated elves. Skorne are a unique race not descended from elves or any others.
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May 14, 2014 00:31
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KuangMkV posted:Skorne are a unique race not descended from elves or any others. You know PP lies to players about backstory all the time right? Info is presented as the point of view of a faction, not objective truth. Or you were being sarcastic, in which case: well played sir.
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May 14, 2014 00:34
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moths posted:What are the Skorne guys, anyway? They remind me of Stargate Atlantis aliens. Definitely not a self hating elven subspecies that are mad about not being uplifted like their haughty cousins and hold a grudge for thousands of years and could be a reason for why elven souls aren't being recycled.
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May 14, 2014 00:38
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Ohhhh Kuang just got schooled about PP 
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May 14, 2014 00:39
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No, really. We've officially stated a number of times that they are a distinct race. 
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May 14, 2014 00:45
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CONSPIRACY!
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May 14, 2014 00:54
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GEMorris posted:You know PP lies to players about backstory all the time right? Info is presented as the point of view of a faction, not objective truth. Most of the backstory isn't presented from anything except an omniscient viewpoint.
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May 14, 2014 01:13
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S.J. posted:Most of the backstory isn't presented from anything except an omniscient viewpoint. He's basically right. Faction backgrounds and other related chapters like the nation-oriented sections of Kings, Nations, & Gods are written with mild faction bias. For example, the Border Wars are described in every chapter in KNG, but you only get a holistic and near-omniscient viewpoint of that event if you compare, contrast, and read between the lines of the relevant section in each nation's chapter.
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May 14, 2014 01:23
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KuangMkV posted:He's basically right. Faction backgrounds and other related chapters like the nation-oriented sections of Kings, Nations, & Gods are written with mild faction bias. For example, the Border Wars are described in every chapter in KNG, but you only get a holistic and near-omniscient viewpoint of that event if you compare, contrast, and read between the lines of the relevant section in each nation's chapter. Oh I get that, I'm just saying there's a big difference between the backstory of say, KNG, and the way Rhupert is presenting it in the main rulebook. It honestly feels more like a faction emphasis rather than bias when reading it.
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May 14, 2014 01:32
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S.J. posted:Oh I get that, I'm just saying there's a big difference between the backstory of say, KNG, and the way Rhupert is presenting it in the main rulebook. It honestly feels more like a faction emphasis rather than bias when reading it. Yeah, absolutely. Model entries are different beasts than structural background fiction (faction histories, military force overviews, etc).
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May 14, 2014 01:39
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Honestly, the tendency for all of the elves to be very "Let's shove as much Japan in this as possible," with gigantic Legion/Nyss odachi wielders and ronin aesthetics and Skorne with their katanas, samurai armor, etc., when I look at the two 'distinct races' all I see is one race that split into two a long time ago. In Star Wars terms, they're Nemodians and Duros. Oh sure, they're separate and distinct now but the idea that they always were just seems wrong even if we're only speaking aesthetically. Hell, around here even the press gangers will tell you that the Nyss are "ronin viking elves from the frozen north who use dragons," that Iosans are "hi-tech power armor elves with space robots," and that the Skorne are "samurai desert elves who worship pain." And after reading the fluff and looking at the figures/art it kinda fits.
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May 14, 2014 01:43
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DJ Dizzy posted:Whats the most forgiving hordes faction? Trolls? I also vote legion. Swags posted:Nyss odachi wielders Nyss Hunters wield claymores. It says so right on their card. Those are totally claymores, for reals yo. 
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Swags posted:Honestly, the tendency for all of the elves to be very "Let's shove as much Japan in this as possible," with gigantic Legion/Nyss odachi wielders and ronin aesthetics and Skorne with their katanas, samurai armor, etc., when I look at the two 'distinct races' all I see is one race that split into two a long time ago. The Skorne are samurai desert klingons thank you very much
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Doug Seacat posted:Skorne and elves are distinct races, and there is no indication that they are related in any way. They were simply from the same side of the continent (along with Anura, Efaarit, and a few others), just as humans, dwarves, trollkin, ogrun, and gobbers are from western Immoren. The skorne were there when the Lyossan empire was at its height, as a nomadic and barbaric race living in the wastes and conducting raids on outlying elven communities. They survived the cataclysm of the fall of Lyoss and endured great hardship during this period, primarily surviving by taking shelter south of the great mountain range in the middle of eastern Immoren, where their first and oldest city remains. Some bands of skorne continued to harass and waylay the retreating elves who survived this cataclysm and who would eventually settle Ios. The skorne stayed in the east and developed their own civilization in the wake of the cataclysm over the last few thousand years. There is considerable information about this and the timeline of skorne civilization in the Monsternomicon II. Source: http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?13235-Nyss-Fluff-and-souls&p=203836&viewfull=1#post203836
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Vulich the Subtle posted:Source: http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?13235-Nyss-Fluff-and-souls&p=203836&viewfull=1#post203836 drat right. Elves aren't awesome enough to be able to tame Titans and Cyclopses and loving Pteryodactls.
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May 14, 2014 02:56
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Murder all the Skorne, make a full cyclops faction. Where we're going, we don't need small bases.
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May 14, 2014 03:08
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waah posted:drat right. Elves aren't awesome enough to be able to tame Titans and Cyclopses and loving Pteryodactls.
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I really like a lot of Skorne but I can't stand the look of the agonizer or the basilisks. Cyclops guys and dinosaurs are cool and I like several of their warlocks but I don't really like the studio scheme of gross grey mummy skin on them.
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jodai posted:I really like a lot of Skorne but I can't stand the look of the agonizer or the basilisks. Cyclops guys and dinosaurs are cool and I like several of their warlocks but I don't really like the studio scheme of gross grey mummy skin on them. Could always just paint them whatever you want. One guy's basilisks when he came in were painted int he colors that chameleons go when they fight.
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Pretty much, all the cool looking Retribution armies ignore the studio scheme.
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May 14, 2014 05:42
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Retribution is the army with the worst studio scheme, to be fair.
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HiveCommander posted:Remind me, why am I not playing Skorne yet? Yeah. Why aren't you?! For content: I get the Seacat stuff. I understand the fluff as it's presented. I just think the fluff really conflicts with the reality of the models. Also, what the gently caress are Efaarit?
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