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Crescent Wrench
Sep 30, 2005

The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Grimey Drawer

Quarex posted:

I think you are all missing his fundamental question as to why funk+disco+1980s hip-hop.


Precisely.

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Crescent Wrench
Sep 30, 2005

The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Grimey Drawer
Although I do appreciate the background on how a hoss transitioned to a goofball dance gimmick. I just am baffled as to the logic behind the gimmick itself.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

He got his head busted open something fierce in the (I think) del Rio/Christian ladder match. The gash left a big, pooling puddle of blood on the mats, and I think he disappeared after that match until he redebuted. I think.

I remember that everyone joked how he had died. Then you see the screen cap and it looks like a crime scene photo.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Mons Hubris posted:

Is Barrett coming back anytime soon? I was pretty surprised he didn't even make an appearance on Raw 1000.

He is busy filming a movie and shaking his head at Heath.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

AKMoose posted:

Although I do appreciate the background on how a hoss transitioned to a goofball dance gimmick. I just am baffled as to the logic behind the gimmick itself.

Vince McMahon supposedly is at least a decade behind on cultural trends, if not more. Stories include him not recognizing Scott Hall doing a Scarface impersonation when he pitched Razor Ramon and, when told that Burchill was going to do a pirate gimmick, was very confused when it was very Pirate of the Caribbean rather than Errol Flynn. No clue how accurate these are, though.

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

AKMoose posted:

Although I do appreciate the background on how a hoss transitioned to a goofball dance gimmick. I just am baffled as to the logic behind the gimmick itself.

About as good a reason you're going to get is "Because VInce McMahon thought it would be funny." That's it.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

nasboat posted:

yeah, I can get behind this. We're suffering from a lack of the term "yak" in wrestling nowadays.

As well as "fruit booty"

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib

Mons Hubris posted:

Is Barrett coming back anytime soon? I was pretty surprised he didn't even make an appearance on Raw 1000.

My understanding is that he's close to being ready to come back, but they were going to hold him out until after Summerslam.

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.

Rodney the Piper posted:

Vince McMahon supposedly is at least a decade behind on cultural trends, if not more. Stories include him not recognizing Scott Hall doing a Scarface impersonation when he pitched Razor Ramon and, when told that Burchill was going to do a pirate gimmick, was very confused when it was very Pirate of the Caribbean rather than Errol Flynn. No clue how accurate these are, though.

In all fairness doing an Errol Flynn "Captain Blood" style pirate instead of Errol Flynn filtered through Johnny Depp quirkiness filtered again through WWE creative might've been better.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

AKMoose posted:

Although I do appreciate the background on how a hoss transitioned to a goofball dance gimmick. I just am baffled as to the logic behind the gimmick itself.

"You know what'd be funny? Make the fat guy dance!"

- Vince McMahon

Perry Normal
Jul 23, 2010

Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.
I'm watching an edition of Prime Time Wrestling, from the lead up to Summerslam 89. Hogan and Beefcake cut a promo about how they were going to win the match with Savage and Zeus because Elizabeth had given them a "history lesson" (Hogan actually describes a mythology lesson) and a "potion" she had given them.

Does anyone know what in the gently caress? I had no idea Liz was an alchemist (or a mythology buff for that matter). Did they ever give more info on the potion?

As an aside, fun episode. Lots of Heenan, Rude and Piper yelling at each other.

the_Vandal
Feb 7, 2004

You make me wanna cry
You make me wanna die
I love you, I love you, I love you,
I love you, I love you
Night Man

Perry Normal posted:

I'm watching an edition of Prime Time Wrestling, from the lead up to Summerslam 89. Hogan and Beefcake cut a promo about how they were going to win the match with Savage and Zeus because Elizabeth had given them a "history lesson" (Hogan actually describes a mythology lesson) and a "potion" she had given them.

Does anyone know what in the gently caress? I had no idea Liz was an alchemist (or a mythology buff for that matter). Did they ever give more info on the potion?

As an aside, fun episode. Lots of Heenan, Rude and Piper yelling at each other.

Miss Elizabeth was experienced in drug making and drug taking. Her potion consisted of 85mg of hydrocodone and 30mg of oxycodone.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Perry Normal posted:

I'm watching an edition of Prime Time Wrestling, from the lead up to Summerslam 89. Hogan and Beefcake cut a promo about how they were going to win the match with Savage and Zeus because Elizabeth had given them a "history lesson" (Hogan actually describes a mythology lesson) and a "potion" she had given them.

Does anyone know what in the gently caress? I had no idea Liz was an alchemist (or a mythology buff for that matter). Did they ever give more info on the potion?

As an aside, fun episode. Lots of Heenan, Rude and Piper yelling at each other.

"Potion" is code for steroids and cocaine

Web Jew.0
May 13, 2009

AKMoose posted:

Although I do appreciate the background on how a hoss transitioned to a goofball dance gimmick. I just am baffled as to the logic behind the gimmick itself.

They've done dancing fat clown tons of times. Dude Love, Rikishi, Hip Hop Tensai, etc.

Brodus Clay actually used to be a serious bad guy working for Alberto Del Rio on SD. When ADR got drafted to Raw last year Brodus was left behind and off tv for a few months. They showed promos hyping for his return that implied he'd be a monster badass... then they did this gag where his return kept getting postponed week after week... so when he finally came out as the Funkasaurus it was a nice surprise.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
According to WWE magazine, Brodus became the Funkasaurus "because he was tired of being angry all the time." As good a reason as any!

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.
During that time period he was having squash matches on Superstars against local jobbers.

Perigryn
Oct 22, 2010

TaJaaaaadoruuuuu

Golden Bee posted:

According to WWE magazine, Brodus became the Funkasaurus "because he was tired of being angry all the time." As good a reason as any!
He explained it on Santino's show too.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005

the_Vandal posted:

Miss Elizabeth was experienced in drug making and drug taking. Her potion consisted of 85mg of hydrocodone and 30mg of oxycodone.

I laughed at this a bit too long and hard.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Any day now, I expect Vince to find out about this "grunge" thing and have a dude come out in flannel and torn jeans. Rad Radford doesn't count.

Perigryn
Oct 22, 2010

TaJaaaaadoruuuuu

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Any day now, I expect Vince to find out about this "grunge" thing and have a dude come out in flannel and torn jeans. Rad Radford doesn't count.
And then wonders who re-hired Raven again.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Perry Normal posted:

I'm watching an edition of Prime Time Wrestling, from the lead up to Summerslam 89. Hogan and Beefcake cut a promo about how they were going to win the match with Savage and Zeus because Elizabeth had given them a "history lesson" (Hogan actually describes a mythology lesson) and a "potion" she had given them.

Nice armwarmers. Didn't know they had a Hot Topic in 1989. So is this a relic from the days when I loved the Undertaker because I was five and literally believed he was a wrestling vampire?

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Dickeye posted:

"You know what'd be funny? Make the fat guy dance!"

- Vince McMahon

I'm fairly critical of vince in a lot of ways, but to be fair I have to say I'd defend this one, because it gets over and can pop a live crowd really well. Plus, it is usually funny. Dont make me dig up that clip of the Osirian Portal hypnotising the CZW locker room to make them dance...

Edit: gently caress it, I love this clip:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejQFkSFDpn8

SiKboy fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jul 25, 2012

Grant DaNasty
Jul 17, 2006

AKMoose posted:

Monday Night Wars junkie/casual fan query: why does Brodus Clay have a funk gimmick, come out under a disco ball, and dress like an 80s rapper?

It reminds me of Dude Love. He's a tie-dyed hippie that somehow has a disco entrance theme.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END

The GIG posted:

I remember that everyone joked how he had died. Then you see the screen cap and it looks like a crime scene photo.

Yeah it deserves posting.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Oh hey I have an actual question: Why did Ricky Steamboat keep that name is entire career, even when he came to the WWF with a "Dragon" gimmick? His last name is Blood. He has the perfect last name for a wrestler. If he had been born 15 years later, he could have worked in ECW as Dick Blood.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?

Halloween Jack posted:

Oh hey I have an actual question: Why did Ricky Steamboat keep that name is entire career, even when he came to the WWF with a "Dragon" gimmick? His last name is Blood. He has the perfect last name for a wrestler. If he had been born 15 years later, he could have worked in ECW as Dick Blood.

Richard Blood isn't a very good face name and I'm pretty sure Steamboat never turned heel.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Back before the Monday Night Wars it wasn't that uncommon for people to keep their ring names throughout their career, regardless of where they went. Then WCW and WWE started to copyright/Trademark ring names so people either got forced to choose new ring names before or after joining a company to ensure the name they're most known for got to stick around.

For example, Lance Hoyt in TNA went to the WWE and was forced to change his name to Vance Archer because TNA owned his previous name (Or WWE wanted a name they could themselves TM). Now in Japan, he has Lance Archer, since he can't use either name.

In the modern era, it's very rare for a Superstar to own the rights to their own ring name. CM Punk is a weird anomaly.

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002


Flameingblack posted:

In the modern era, it's very rare for a Superstar to own the rights to their own ring name. CM Punk is a weird anomaly.
CM Punk is (now) his legal name so I don't think they could trademark it if they wanted to.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END

Orgophlax posted:

CM Punk is (now) his legal name so I don't think they could trademark it if they wanted to.

I missed this story. When did that happen?

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002


Strenuous Manflurry posted:

I missed this story. When did that happen?
No idea, but he's mentioned it a few times on Twitter.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

Orgophlax posted:

CM Punk is (now) his legal name so I don't think they could trademark it if they wanted to.

I'm wondering how common of a move this has become in wrestling. We all know about how Jim Hellwig legally changed his name to Warrior (although I believe he did that after WWF had trademarked the Ultimate Warrior and of course there was litigation or at least the threat of it between the two). Anyone know of any other guys who have officially changed their names?

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END

nasboat posted:

I'm wondering how common of a move this has become in wrestling. We all know about how Jim Hellwig legally changed his name to Warrior (although I believe he did that after WWF had trademarked the Ultimate Warrior and of course there was litigation or at least the threat of it between the two). Anyone know of any other guys who have officially changed their names?

I only know of Warrior Warrior and Chyna.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Is the Warrior doing anything? What's the status of his right-wing speaking career?


I find him a really reprehensible person. Seems like he wants to posit himself as having moved beyond wrestling and being better than everyone in it, but he's failed at everything he's tried outside of wrestling and whatever fame he has is built on his wrestling career. Maybe I'm wrong and he's currently a successful entrepreneur.

nasboat
Sep 9, 2004

Halloween Jack posted:

Is the Warrior doing anything? What's the status of his right-wing speaking career?


I find him a really reprehensible person. Seems like he wants to posit himself as having moved beyond wrestling and being better than everyone in it, but he's failed at everything he's tried outside of wrestling and whatever fame he has is built on his wrestling career. Maybe I'm wrong and he's currently a successful entrepreneur.

No, he really is a reprehensible person. I would not be surprised if he had some mental illness involved, too.

While we're on the subject, this reminds me: how many of our PSP posters are aware of DESTRUCITY? I don't even really remember the "definition" but it was basically the only thing Warrior would post about online back in the late '90s, probably right around the time his comic book failed. It was some sort of idea or way of life or some other poo poo that Warrior had come up with, and he mentioned it all the loving time, usually in all caps if I remember correctly. That was when he really began to get a reputation for being an absolute whackjob. I mean, we all knew Warrior was fairly crazy, just from watching his insane promos back in the early 90s, but that was the first glimpse I can remember into the real mind of Jim Hellwig, and it was scary.

Reminded me of a wannabe cult leader. Or someone on another planet like Darren Daulton.

e: Urban Dictionary (the first result on a Google search for "warrior destrucity") tells me that the definition is as follows:

1. The name of the galaxy in WARRIOR wherein the "Terrain of Testament" lies.

2. The living of one's life in the Way of a Warrior according to a Warrior's eight disciplines: physical, beliefs, moment of mastery, attitude, commitment, association, integrity and wisdom.

3. The creating of a truce between one's Destiny and one's Reality. Promising to stay true to what one is destined to be, yet accepting what is the now... one's reality.

"Dreams are the movies that tell one's story... Some already told... some not yet written."
--Warrior Wisdom

:stare: :psyduck: :wtc:

nasboat fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 25, 2012

Iskanderson
Apr 16, 2009
He was most recently accused of ripping off some memorabilia company to the tune of 30 grand.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Iskanderson posted:

He was most recently accused of ripping off some memorabilia company to the tune of 30 grand.
Oh, I forgot about that. I saw it in some website's newsfeed.

nasboat posted:

No, he really is a reprehensible person. I would not be surprised if he had some mental illness involved, too.

While we're on the subject, this reminds me: how many of our PSP posters are aware of DESTRUCITY? I don't even really remember the "definition" but it was basically the only thing Warrior would post about online back in the late '90s, probably right around the time his comic book failed. It was some sort of idea or way of life or some other poo poo that Warrior had come up with, and he mentioned it all the loving time, usually in all caps if I remember correctly. That was when he really began to get a reputation for being an absolute whackjob. I mean, we all knew Warrior was fairly crazy, just from watching his insane promos back in the early 90s, but that was the first glimpse I can remember into the real mind of Jim Hellwig, and it was scary.

Reminded me of a wannabe cult leader. Or someone on another planet like Darren Daulton.

e: Urban Dictionary (the first result on a Google search for "warrior destrucity") tells me that the definition is as follows:

1. The name of the galaxy in WARRIOR wherein the "Terrain of Testament" lies.

2. The living of one's life in the Way of a Warrior according to a Warrior's eight disciplines: physical, beliefs, moment of mastery, attitude, commitment, association, integrity and wisdom.

3. The creating of a truce between one's Destiny and one's Reality. Promising to stay true to what one is destined to be, yet accepting what is the now... one's reality.

"Dreams are the movies that tell one's story... Some already told... some not yet written."
--Warrior Wisdom

:stare: :psyduck: :wtc:
Warrior is really funny to me because he seems to carry this epic science fiction/fantasy concept of the pure archetype of The Warrior, but he's not intelligent or articulate enough to convey it to anybody else. It's his most lovable trait. Like he's a dumb jock who started playing Dungeons & Dragons, and the nerds in the group roll their eyes and shake their heads when he starts rambling about his totally awesome idea for the next campaign. His comic book pretty much bears this out.

The family that he lives for only breathes the air that smells of combat.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

God, I remember reading some of his racist, sexist, homophobic rants in university and being baffled at how someone outside of a Westboro Batshit clone could think that way.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

nasboat posted:

No, he really is a reprehensible person. I would not be surprised if he had some mental illness involved, too.

While we're on the subject, this reminds me: how many of our PSP posters are aware of DESTRUCITY? I don't even really remember the "definition" but it was basically the only thing Warrior would post about online back in the late '90s, probably right around the time his comic book failed. It was some sort of idea or way of life or some other poo poo that Warrior had come up with, and he mentioned it all the loving time, usually in all caps if I remember correctly. That was when he really began to get a reputation for being an absolute whackjob. I mean, we all knew Warrior was fairly crazy, just from watching his insane promos back in the early 90s, but that was the first glimpse I can remember into the real mind of Jim Hellwig, and it was scary.

Reminded me of a wannabe cult leader. Or someone on another planet like Darren Daulton.

e: Urban Dictionary (the first result on a Google search for "warrior destrucity") tells me that the definition is as follows:

1. The name of the galaxy in WARRIOR wherein the "Terrain of Testament" lies.

2. The living of one's life in the Way of a Warrior according to a Warrior's eight disciplines: physical, beliefs, moment of mastery, attitude, commitment, association, integrity and wisdom.

3. The creating of a truce between one's Destiny and one's Reality. Promising to stay true to what one is destined to be, yet accepting what is the now... one's reality.

"Dreams are the movies that tell one's story... Some already told... some not yet written."
--Warrior Wisdom

:stare: :psyduck: :wtc:

Best part? Destiny, truce, reality. Yes, the word is made by literally sticking 'truce' between destiny and reality.

bartok
May 10, 2006



Speaking of Warrior what was his World Title reign like? He held on to the title from Wrestlemania 6 to the '91 Rumble so it was a fairly lengthy reign.

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Bocc Kob
Oct 26, 2010

flashy_mcflash posted:

God, I remember reading some of his racist, sexist, homophobic rants in university and being baffled at how someone outside of a Westboro Batshit clone could think that way.

I like the one story where some football player's agent or whatever was trying to cut him through line to get a Warrior autograph, so Warrior demanded the agent take off his shirt to show what he'd accomplished in life.

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