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When I was young my parents used to have multitple indoor/outdoor cats that mostly stayed in their giant privacy-fenced yard in a sleepy low-density neighborhood so things were fine. After my parents divorced, my mom and I moved to a different house in a suburb with smaller yards and more traffic, and one of them almost immediately disappeared (likely hit by a car but we'll never know). It turned out our next door neighbor was a retiree with an obsession for gardening and one day he discovered some cat poop in his flowerbed. Instead of consulting us about the problem, he complained to the town government and had them send us a nasty letter warning about potential fines, then started putting out cage traps. My mom ended up rescuing one of ours from a cage, as well as a stray that we took in (it ended up being a sweet old lady that lived almost 20 years). Not sure what his actual intentions were but we didn't want to find out so they became indoor-only and have remained since. My girlfriend and I have 3 cats + a foster we're trying to find a home for; all rescued strays, all kept indoors because the world is full of predators, psychos, and cars. Also we ended up slowly and subtly ruining that neighbor's garden over the next few years. He kept a flowerbed adjoining our house's driveway and it was common for us to regularly 'miss' and put a wheel through his flowers when pulling in. When my mom ended up adopting a dog, she'd let it piss in his yard at night. Vernii fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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The Splash posted:If you live on a farm where a cat can be a ratter, great. Outdoor cats with jobs are different. But letting pets loose in and around cities should be illegal (if it's not already). You don't let your dogs wander the streets at night, why would you let your cats?
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Jan 8, 2020 05:35
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Fleetwood Crack posted:Hear hear! Preach!!
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Jan 8, 2020 05:49
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Well Americans are huge on leash laws and formal ‘dog walking’ whereas in the UK its totally normal to let your dog off-lead. We just kinda let animals run around and entertain themselves here, but it doesn’t seem to lead to widespread animal massacre and misery
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Jan 8, 2020 09:43
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Well Americans are huge on leash laws and formal ‘dog walking’ whereas in the UK its totally normal to let your dog off-lead. We just kinda let animals run around and entertain themselves here, but it doesn’t seem to lead to widespread animal massacre and misery You talkin city or rural tho?
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Jan 8, 2020 09:57
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One thing that always strike me as disingenuous is that people quoting statistics always seem to take the stats for purely outside 'working cats' or even strays, then compare that to cats who are kept inside as loved pets with full vet visits. Then claim that indoor cats live 7 year longer or whatever. Indoor/outdoor cats who are family pets and are taken to the vet, fed properly, etc? In a country without predators? I very much doubt the difference is more than a year or two at most and that almost entirely due to cars, so very dependent upon where you live. Anecdotally I know of one largely outdoor cat who made it to twenty two and she only died because she loved to jump between boats.
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Jan 8, 2020 10:23
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esperterra posted:You talkin city or rural tho? Our suburbs aren't the hellscapes that us suburbs are
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Jan 8, 2020 10:26
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Both. I’m in the city, my parents are rural. Only difference I noticed was that you don’t tend to get free-roaming chickens in the city... e: I am in a residential/suburby part of the city though. Yeah if you live in some completely urban central location you’re not letting your cat out, but then you’re probably renting at extortionate prices and can’t have a pet anyway Prism Mirror Lens fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Jan 8, 2020 10:28
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Vernii posted:When I was young my parents used to have multitple indoor/outdoor cats that mostly stayed in their giant privacy-fenced yard in a sleepy low-density neighborhood so things were fine. After my parents divorced, my mom and I moved to a different house in a suburb with smaller yards and more traffic, and one of them almost immediately disappeared (likely hit by a car but we'll never know). It turned out our next door neighbor was a retiree with an obsession for gardening and one day he discovered some cat poop in his flowerbed.
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Jan 8, 2020 19:07
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Both. I’m in the city, my parents are rural. Only difference I noticed was that you don’t tend to get free-roaming chickens in the city... lol remember how the press and police made a huge deal about someone travelling around murdering outdoor cats with hundreds of cases of it and then it turned out to be foxes when they asked an expert. the same expert they'd asked a decade earlier after the exact same thing happened
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Jan 8, 2020 19:09
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Jose posted:lol remember how the press and police made a huge deal about someone travelling around murdering outdoor cats with hundreds of cases of it and then it turned out to be foxes when they asked an expert. the same expert they'd asked a decade earlier after the exact same thing happened You'd have to be crazy to let your cat outdoors. Crazy like a fox!!!
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Jan 8, 2020 19:10
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Vernii posted:When I was young my parents used to have multitple indoor/outdoor cats that mostly stayed in their giant privacy-fenced yard in a sleepy low-density neighborhood so things were fine. After my parents divorced, my mom and I moved to a different house in a suburb with smaller yards and more traffic, and one of them almost immediately disappeared (likely hit by a car but we'll never know). It turned out our next door neighbor was a retiree with an obsession for gardening and one day he discovered some cat poop in his flowerbed. Haha wow your family is assholes. We moved in next to a retiree and ruined the thing he loved the most tee hee. Pretty on brand for outdoor cat owners tbh
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Jan 8, 2020 19:33
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It just goes with how outdoor cat owners are irresponsible pet owners but cat poo poo is gross, you’re expected to pick up after your dog but lazy outdoor cat owners don’t think it’s their responsibility
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Jan 8, 2020 19:37
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*literally gets a city letter about their nuisance animals* hmm not going to do anything *neighbor puts out perfectly legal cage traps on their own property* wow this is just unacceptable I will now generate a lifelong grudge and ruin this man’s one passion, probably the only thing he still has in his life, which also beautifies the neighborhood
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Jan 8, 2020 19:49
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Cars bury their poo poo, mixing the soil and adding nutrients. Their urine scares away herbivores. You want cats to poo poo and piss in your garden.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:22
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Ceiling fan posted:Cars bury their poo poo, mixing the soil and adding nutrients. Their urine scares away herbivores. You want cats to poo poo and piss in your garden. Love to have carnivore poo poo in my garden adding nutrients lol is this what you actually think?
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Jan 8, 2020 20:30
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Dogs are a nuisance in the US. People get them as a form of virtue signalling, and then drag them around on a leash so other idiots with terminal doggo brain can make a huge deal about seeing dogs. The worst is when people take their dogs in stores because they know that no one is really paid enough to deal with the poo poo fit said virtue signalling idiot will throw when asked to remove their stupid dog from the shopping cart. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jan 8, 2020 20:33
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Iron Crowned posted:Dogs are a nuisance in the US. People get them as a form of virtue signalling, and then drag them around on a leash so other idiots with terminal doggo brain can make a huge deal about seeing dogs. I was going to ask how the gently caress dogs are virtue signalling, but then I took a look at your rap sheet and saw you have an entire page worth of probes for some kind of anti dog agenda and I think you may be legitimately unwell. Hope you get some help.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:41
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Like 99% sure all the indoor people are the kind who refer to their pets as their "babies" in casual conversation.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:49
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My cats are not my babies tyvm. They're my best friends!!! And I live on one of the busiest streets in my city so they sure as gently caress are staying indoor.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:59
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Vernii posted:the world is full of predators, psychos, and cars. 
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Jan 8, 2020 23:09
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phasmid posted:Like 99% sure all the indoor people are the kind who refer to their pets as their "babies" in casual conversation.  Babies are annoying, loud, and needy. Very much unlike cats.
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Jan 8, 2020 23:48
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Where the hell are the pictures of outdoor cats?
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Jan 9, 2020 00:02
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Foreskin Problems posted:Where the hell are the pictures of outdoor cats? Asking goons to go outdoors. Smh.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:21
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Foreskin Problems posted:Where the hell are the pictures of outdoor cats?
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Jan 9, 2020 00:54
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Maybe its a U.S thing but pretty much everyone in my end lets their cats outside, its quite nice to not have to own cat to get the chance to pet one.
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Jan 9, 2020 02:07
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Yeah it’s pretty sweet to get to pet a dirty cat probably with feline aids, three different types of worms and whatever else it’s suffering from
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Jan 9, 2020 02:11
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Do it ironically posted:Yeah it’s pretty sweet to get to pet a dirty cat probably with feline aids, three different types of worms and whatever else it’s suffering from You shy away from cats when you're out and about? Also lol @ "feline aids" because you can't do without scaremongering.
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Jan 9, 2020 02:19
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Cats are good. There should be more of them. And they should be BIGGER.
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Jan 9, 2020 02:22
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The US has a huge problem with feral cats compounded with cat breeding mills that add to the problem. In contrast to countries like Germany that rarely euthanize in their shelters except to end suffering, the US kills hundreds of thousands of healthy strays every year because of mass overpopulation. The trap and spay/neuter teams do great work and help cut down on the problem. The trappers gets screamed at by idiots who want them to personally investigate every cat they trap before taking it in just in case someone owns it. Homed cats are a tiny fraction of the cats living outdoors and it's not feasible to stop sending animals to shelters just because you might pick up someone's pet. If you don't want your cat trapped then keep them indoors, if they don't come home then check with county animal services. I reserve a special "gently caress you" to lovely owners who claim their cat must have escaped their breakaway collar when they've never put any collar on their cat, never chipped them, and don't intend to.
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Jan 9, 2020 02:29
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Do it ironically posted:Yeah it’s pretty sweet to get to pet a dirty cat probably with feline aids, three different types of worms and whatever else it’s suffering from lmao am I just supposed to live my life in constant fear of every cat i see that i don't recognise?
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Jan 9, 2020 02:43
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JustaDamnFool posted:lmao am I just supposed to live my life in constant fear of every cat i see that i don't recognise?
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Jan 9, 2020 02:46
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phasmid posted:Cats are good. There should be more of them. And they should be BIGGER. FWIW we occasionally (all the time) have problem cougars stalking hikers, runners and mountain bikers. Not saying you're wrong tho, training cats to attack invasive species is a good idea imo.
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Jan 9, 2020 03:23
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Fleetwood Crack posted:Yes if you have cats of your own that you value the health of. Outdoor/stray cats are carriers of many diseases which have fomites that can easily be brought home to your own cats. You may be a palm master, but try the back of your hand for petting kitties
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Jan 9, 2020 03:26
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There's one easy trick to avoid getting feline aids
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Jan 9, 2020 04:21
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Iron Crowned posted:Dogs are a nuisance in the US. People get them as a form of virtue signalling, and then drag them around on a leash so other idiots with terminal doggo brain can make a huge deal about seeing dogs. seek help my guy
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Jan 9, 2020 05:14
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phasmid posted:Cats are good. There should be more of them. And they should be BIGGER.
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Jan 9, 2020 06:33
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If you're going to have a pet keep it to your drat self. I don't need someones dickhead cat screwing with my poo poo because they don't want to deal with it.
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Jan 9, 2020 08:03
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JustaDamnFool posted:lmao am I just supposed to live my life in constant fear of every cat i see that i don't recognise? Americans need guns because as soon as they step outside they’re overrun by feral hogs and AIDS cats
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Colonel Cancer posted:There's one easy trick to avoid getting feline aids Wear a condom?
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