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15 | 13.27% |
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91 | 80.53% |
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Man, so the last TDS show is the night of the republican debate? Goddamn.
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Jul 29, 2015 06:53
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After having tried watching a few episodes, wow, Larry Wilmore is terrible. He's all awkward and almost a little cringe-inducing in his delivery that it makes him feel like "that one sort of annoying guy at work who feels like he has to bring up social justice issues every single day and makes unfunny jokes constantly", and I say that as an unabashed bleeding-heart cryptomuslimliberoanarchocommunist type. I suspect similar sentiments have been shared in this thread a few times already, though.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:23
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Krinkle posted:Have you ever seen him defend the concept of rape games and call amazon out for taking them off their store front? I must have missed that episode of The Daily Show  .
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Jul 29, 2015 08:31
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I kinda chuckled at Stewart suggesting Cruise should have himself dropped into a volcano for kicks.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:47
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Is the Daily Show going to go on a break before Trevor starts?
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Jul 29, 2015 10:48
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I kinda chuckled at Stewart suggesting Cruise should have himself dropped into a volcano for kicks.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:50
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Last night's episode of Daily Show had a hilarious opening! Best in a while. I noticed something during the interview, though: Jon says "maybe they should drop you in a volcano" to Tom Cruise (talking about future Mission movies). I wondered if that was a dig at Scientology. edit: Duzzy Funlop posted:I kinda chuckled at Stewart suggesting Cruise should have himself dropped into a volcano for kicks. ah, beaten
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Jul 29, 2015 13:04
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jerichojx posted:Is the Daily Show going to go on a break before Trevor starts? I'd like to know that too, but it sounds like he's been in the writer's room and such so hopefully he's been getting some on the job training the last few months. I can't decide whether I think they'll change the sets or not. Both would make sense.
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Jul 29, 2015 13:55
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They already announced that Trevor will be starting on September 28. Since the last Daily Show with Jon Stewart is on Aug 6th, there will be an almost 2 month break.
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Jul 29, 2015 14:11
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swickles posted:I must have missed that episode of The Daily Show Oh I forgot about that I assumed he was talking about Penn Jillette and my brain broke because his politics is the worst part about him - why would anyone be glad they get to hear his politics?
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Jul 29, 2015 14:35
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I liked how the third guy just stayed the hell out of that whole awful discussion until he realized that if he didn't interject a joke at least once he wasn't going to get paid or something.
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Jul 29, 2015 14:39
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Yeah for sure I was talking about Jon. I turned my TV off when Penn started talking.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:49
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Zero One posted:Yeah for sure I was talking about Jon. I turned my TV off when Penn started talking. He told Larry Wilmore it's because people like him that there are so many shootings in America. Classy. Collin Quinn actually made more sense than Penn, that's a feat. e; I also wish Rick Perry would just get put into solitary already, the last thing I need at the theater in this stupid state is to be worried about some idiot negligent discharging and killing me or someone I care about. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 18:58
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MariusLecter posted:He told Larry Wilmore it's because people like him that there are so many shootings in America. Classy. Wait, what? 
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Jul 29, 2015 19:08
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MariusLecter posted:He told Larry Wilmore it's because people like him that there are so many shootings in America. Classy. Wait, was he saying people like himself, or people like Wilmore? Either way,  but I'm curious.
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Jul 29, 2015 19:18
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I wonder if Jon's appearance on Larry and being made to feel how it feels to "be on someone else's show and have a whole race on your shoulders" might be his way of responding or showing contrition over the Cenac thing...
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Jul 29, 2015 19:22
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thrawn527 posted:Wait, was he saying people like himself, or people like Wilmore? Either way, People like Wilmore in the media that give attention to mass shooters.
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Jul 29, 2015 19:45
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MariusLecter posted:People like Wilmore in the media that give attention to mass shooters. Its a bit misguided, but its not far off the mark. The two cops in New York got shot because the media created and fostered a 'war on blacks' narrative after Ferguson. Young people are easily persuaded into doing stupid things for dumb causes. Look at ISIS. Young people with bright futures are getting suckered into leaving civilized countries to join those loving barbarians in the desert because [something something] holy war. People are dumb, and young people moreso, so when you have supposedly 'legitimate' news anchors telling them the world's out to get them, enough of them are going to be stupid enough to believe them and take it to the next level.
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Jul 29, 2015 20:55
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MariusLecter posted:He told Larry Wilmore it's because people like him that there are so many shootings in America. Classy. Penn was talking about this. This video makes the rounds online after every mass shooting. It's a very loving valid criticism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4
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Jul 29, 2015 21:04
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I know this thread jumped on the full Larry Wilmore sucks bandwagon, but Nightly is still a "watchable enough" second half hour of TDS that still feeds me when I want "a little more" after Stewart. It's not a good show and doubt it'll substantially improve. And I might just start watching The Late Show instead, but there's still a niche of people who like it. I have a Facebook friend who posts more Nightly clips than TDS or LWT. Roadie posted:After having tried watching a few episodes, wow, Larry Wilmore is terrible. He's all awkward and almost a little cringe-inducing in his delivery that it makes him feel like "that one sort of annoying guy at work who feels like he has to bring up social justice issues every single day and makes unfunny jokes constantly", and I say that as an unabashed bleeding-heart cryptomuslimliberoanarchocommunist type. And then instead we get a program that's usually not cathartic enough for the former and a lot of "comedians having fun circlejerking but we're not".
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Jul 29, 2015 21:32
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I like Wilmore because it fills in the gap nicely between TDS and @midnight (which has been kind of down lately, but thats mostly due to the guests they have and not any writing/hosting abilities). Its going to be interesting to see the numbers once we get a Stewart-less TDS and Wilmore back to back.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:21
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I think the Nightly Show has gotten a lot better. I wish it wasn't because he's passionate and good at talking about the blatant racism in America, though. Mike Yard is great and they regularly bring on Felonious Munk. It's starting to figure itself out.
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Jul 29, 2015 23:49
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I like the Nightly Show. Larry isn't as funny as Stewart but he's got a good take on the issues, and his panel guests are sometimes good.
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Jul 30, 2015 00:28
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Android Blues posted:I like the Nightly Show. Larry isn't as funny as Stewart but he's got a good take on the issues Unless he's talking about the death penalty.
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Jul 30, 2015 00:47
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kittenmittons posted:Unless he's talking about the death penalty. Yeah, Larry gets loving when talking about the death penalty.
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Jul 30, 2015 00:54
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Or prison, LOL PRISON RAPE SURE IS COOL *2 beats later* A Cosby Tirade. TNS is unmitigated garbage.
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Jul 30, 2015 01:40
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I'm loving 'I got like a bit over a week left gently caress it' Stewart so much.
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Jul 30, 2015 04:07
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This old lady is adorable and awesome.
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Jul 30, 2015 04:19
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Finally got to watch the grunting segment from Monday. Excellent!
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Jul 30, 2015 04:28
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Holy loving poo poo. Is that Jon Stewart's wife in the Wednesday section as the VO says "on his very next show"? drat Jon. You did... you did pretty well for yourself man.
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Jul 30, 2015 10:10
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Chromatic posted:Penn was talking about this. This video makes the rounds online after every mass shooting. To suggest that talking about mass shootings is the cause of mass shootings is absolutely goddamned retarded. I don't know how you even got that from that video, which is focused more on the sensationalization of the shooter, and while that's a sign of how poo poo journalism has become suggesting even that causes more mass shootings is pretty loving daft IMO. Nobody's going to look at that poo poo and say "Well I wasn't thinking of shooting up a kindergarten before, but NOW I've got murder on the mind!" It's almost as loving dumb as the other sentiment going around recently that the news shouldn't report on cops beating the poo poo out of and/or murdering black people every other day, because all it does is "create racial tension." Because THAT's the part causing the tension and not, y'know, all the cop murder. raditts fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Jul 30, 2015 18:26
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Well if you can't blame video games, movies, D&D, music, drugs, tv shows, or call things "isolated incidents" then you have to blame the media itself, right? *Studiously avoids mentioning that mass shootings wouldn't happen without laughably easy access guns*
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Jul 30, 2015 19:04
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raditts posted:I don't know how you even got that from that video, which is focused more on the sensationalization of the shooter, and while that's a sign of how poo poo journalism has become suggesting even that causes more mass shootings is pretty loving daft IMO. Nobody's going to look at that poo poo and say "Well I wasn't thinking of shooting up a kindergarten before, but NOW I've got murder on the mind!" It's very sensible and if media followed those directions it would save lives. Most rampage killers state that their primary motivation is the publicity it creates. They feel that killings will be some kind of turning point that will cause a revolution, literal or figurative, and that they will be viewed as heroes by some. It's very rare for massacres to be committed because a person simply wants to inflict pain on others, it's almost always part of a greater social statement. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303309504579181702252120052 quote:Whereas serial killers are driven by long-standing sadistic and sexual pleasure in inflicting pain, massacre killers usually have no prior history of violence. Instead, writes Eric W. Hickey, dean of the California School of Forensic Studies, in his 2009 book "Serial Murderers and Their Victims," massacre killers commit a single and final act in which violence becomes a "medium" to make a " 'final statement' in or about life." Fantasy, public expression and messaging are central to what motivates and defines massacre killings.
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Jul 30, 2015 19:30
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raditts posted:It's almost as loving dumb as the other sentiment going around recently that the news shouldn't report on cops beating the poo poo out of and/or murdering black people every other day, because all it does is "create racial tension." Because THAT's the part causing the tension and not, y'know, all the cop murder. Reporting on an abuse of power is not going to perpetuate that abuse of power. That makes no sense. And it obviously doesn't cause racial tensions, it just exposes them. Sensationalizing spree killings can (in theory) romanticize and encourage them. I don't know enough about spree killing specifically (the post above makes a fairly good case), but I know it can make a huge difference how the media reports on suicides and self harm. If the media sensationalizes it, then in effect they're romanticizing it, and that does measurably increase the rate of these things. Mental illness is out there, and its expression is hugely affected by culture. The idea that you should be conscious of the implications of your words on vulnerable people should be a no brainer for the media. The idea here is not to censor the facts at all- you should still report on it, and analyze it... people should know about it if it happens, especially if there's public policy decisions that need to be made that would affect it (gun control, mental health services), the point is it's not just crass but actively harmful to go all "Shocking news! Misanthropic badass kills dozens! One lone misunderstood youth shakes whole community! Wow!" for a whole news cycle and then some.
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Jul 30, 2015 20:03
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Calling out WIlmore on that is still stupid.
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Jul 30, 2015 20:14
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Oh. Yeah. I forgot what we're talking about. WIlmore's totally on the analysis side of things rather than the sensationalism side of things. Calling out Wilmore is totally missing the point. I presume. I, uh, stopped watching the Nightly Show a while back...
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Jul 30, 2015 20:19
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I've had satellite hooked up for all of a week now and the Nightly show seems pretty decent. Why the hate?
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Jul 31, 2015 05:49
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Deki posted:I've had satellite hooked up for all of a week now and the Nightly show seems pretty decent. Why the hate? It took him some time to find his voice, as all new hosts do. Also, apparently if you don't agree 100% with every opinion a guy has, then he is terrible.
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Jul 31, 2015 05:52
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Letting an anti-vaxxer pretty much run wild without challenge early on had a lasting effect in terms of perception, I think. Larry's boner for using the death penalty for revenge killings also gets uncomfortable when it pops up. Dude goes all-in on that whenever it comes up on a topic.
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Jul 31, 2015 06:06
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Early on, there were quite a few shows in rapid succession that just knocked the wind out of a some people beyond just letting the show find a voice. At least, that's what happened to me personally; it seemed like there would be a brief string of mediocre/passable shows with a sparse handful of promising ones, and then it would promptly hit the reset button by doing something abhorrent or just irritating enough to piss away the good will that it was slowly earning in small increments. Still, even I have to admit that Larry has a hit a stride in the past couple of weeks. Or at least, he's found his niche by covering more... fluffy topics in general to fill the gaps, and only touching on heavier stuff when he personally knows about it instead of trying to fake it or relying too heavily on his guests that might be horrible people with horrible positions. I tuned back into the show around when Officer Barrelrolls abused a teenage girl in Texas out of curiosity to see how Larry would handle it, and I've been pretty content with it since.
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