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Prince of Space posted:If peramene DID cast something in the battle phase to aid her teammates, it was probably something that decreased damage taken. Or it could be... The impetuous buff... That you saw on your own sheet as actually getting... After battle phase resolved. 
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I can not fathom where the “peramene cast no buffs” line of reasoning ever came from at this point. I feel like I’ve had hours of my life wasted.
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Jan 9, 2018 12:30
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Bifauxnen posted:hey flerp while you're here, that other cool thing was fine in either row, right? yeah, it works no matter where im at
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Bifauxnen posted:If pera DID cast a buff during battle phase, what would you EXPECT to see? But whatever, this could just be a case of people trying to play Super Mario Brothers 2 again or something. You haven't paid enough attention to what Cat's said anyway so this seems to just be going around in circles. Even if pera did cast a buff, it could be a ploy for townie cred while the back row got blown the gently caress up instead. It proves nothing. We still need to play Mafia. Venom Soag posted:I can not fathom where the “peramene cast no buffs” line of reasoning ever came from at this point. I feel like I’ve had hours of my life wasted. Yyyyyyyup Even Cat was trying to say she's suss despite the buff, not trying to disprove it
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At this point I really want to know what CuriousCat is willing to confirm about what she did or didn't do in last night's preliminary phase and battle. Same goes with peramene, since I'm currently voting fer her and all. Bifauxnen posted:Or it could be... The impetuous buff... That you saw on your own sheet as actually getting... After battle phase resolved. It certainly is possible! But in my honest opinion that would be a really poor skill to use when yer in the front row, spendin' your battle action only buffing people fer the next battle.
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Prince of Space posted:At this point I really want to know what CuriousCat is willing to confirm about what she did or didn't do in last night's preliminary phase and battle. Yeah nah let's focus more on lunching somebody please
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I'll hold off on voting for now since I'll be getting some sleep soon, and want to be able to come ok the hammer once y'all get closer to it. Around -3 is where we stop and check. Votecount for Day 3   Drunk Nerds (2): busb, flerp SirSamVimes (2): Little Mac, Prince of Space, Venom Soag, peramene (2): Venom Soag, Mithross (2): curiousCat, SLASHER HAWKE Natural 20 (1): Prince of Space, SLASHER HAWKE (0): Drunk Nerds, Venom Soag (0): busb, Drunk Nerds, Prince of Space, Not Voting (11): Atomic Soda, Bifauxnen, Drunk Nerds, iajanus, Jeabus Mahogany, Mithross, Natural 20, peramene, SirSamVimes, Tired Moritz, tpink  With 20 people still alive, it takes 11 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 09th, 2018 at 8 p.m. EST -- that's in about 13 hours, 22 minutes.
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Bifauxnen posted:Yeah nah let's focus more on lunching somebody please CuriousCat is more or less the lunch-pin of whether or not I'm somewhere on the right track. I'm going hafta go to bed with a vote on peramene fer now, then. Lookin' forward to seein' all the new material (and votes) when I get up.
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Jan 9, 2018 12:43
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It's tricky because I have suspicions about all four current vote leaders also because I'm a sleepy idiot
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Jan 9, 2018 13:07
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I feel like buff talk went in circles and was pretty much pointless. I believe SSV should be our choice today, they have been moderately scummy all game, and missing TNL's death doesn't help that any (even I know who died Bif right? I'm pretty sure Bif died in the battle last night ##vote SSV
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Jan 9, 2018 13:15
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Tired Moritz I'd like your opinion on TNL's tactician list in light of last night's flips I quoted it earlier Others feel free to chime in
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Jan 9, 2018 13:17
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Jeabus Mahogany posted:Town are you trying to say that im lying about my tactician status? or that since there was so many town tacticians that at least one of us has to be scum? that's a wee bit setup speccy of you, ain't it? there's no reason to believe flerp's attack'd claim tbh.
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Jan 9, 2018 13:21
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Tired Moritz posted:are you trying to say that im lying about my tactician status? or that since there was so many town tacticians that at least one of us has to be scum? that's a wee bit setup speccy of you, ain't it? who got "nightkilled" night 1 if it wasn't flerp?
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Jan 9, 2018 13:25
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Jeabus Mahogany posted:who got "nightkilled" night 1 if it wasn't flerp? So many options here. No one, long term town cred gambit, NK was blocked, etc.
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Jan 9, 2018 13:29
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[quote]The scum in each thread mayalso perform a Night Kill during the Battle phase if desired.[quote/] its in the rules
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my brain is exploding for messing that upTired Moritz posted:
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Jan 9, 2018 13:31
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##unvote I'm uncomfortable voting after the claim and not remembering TNL died is more likely a disengaged town mistake to make. I'm still open to it, but not committed. Also busb is in this game?
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Jan 9, 2018 13:33
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Tired Moritz posted:that's a wee bit setup speccy of you, ain't it? Also you should probably be asking that of tithin and TNL, who both flipped town Venom Soag posted:So many options here. No one, long term town cred gambit, NK was blocked, etc. don't answer the questions for him gdi
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Jan 9, 2018 13:34
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just because theyre town doesnt mean that theyre right.
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while flerp could be lying saying there's absolutely zero reason to believe him is a bit of a stretch
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well im town so i dont get what youre trying to get me to say.
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Jan 9, 2018 13:40
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Little Mac posted:##unvote Everything about this sucks. - it’s more commonly lurky scum who don’t pay attention to flips - you’re lurky as gently caress so YOU don’t get to pull the “so and so is in this game???” bullshit All you’re interested in is excusing yourself.
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Tired Moritz posted:well im town I mainly just wanted to see your initial reaction to the prod fyi it seemed a bit omgus-y
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Jeabus Mahogany posted:I mainly just wanted to see your initial reaction to the prod but you were the one who pushed that I had to be scum because Im the "only unconfirmed tactician" I'm just pointing out that flerp could be lying.
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Venom Soag posted:Everything about this sucks. Coming from the pov of an actual disengaged townie, I disagree! I also get to post what I want. It's very good and fun. Perhaps I could have worded it with "busb's parts weirded me out, but I will reread later" but that's less funny to me.
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Tired Moritz posted:but you were the one who pushed that I had to be scum because Im the "only unconfirmed tactician" I think withholding the NK for a tactical advantage is unlikely. If we look at gamestate D1, B-minus went for a lynch and Inf was being Inf and had a tonne of heat. You withhold the NK to generate confusion and a long term advantage in return for less initial damage, but if that's the case, scum were probably looking what? 3 days in advance for this to yield rewards? This is with the confusion of battles added on. I can buy a scumteam doing that, but it seems like an awfully large investment for potential yield down the road.
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Jesus Christ phone posting is loving terrible
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flerp did waste a bunch of heals that could had been used on someone else you know, if they were lying.
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Little Mac posted:Also Please don't edit your posts, even "ninja" edits aren't always safe! There's no shame in Mafia edits! I saw the original post and this edit is harmless, but the whole thread should take this as a warning. Thanks for understanding!
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Venom Soag posted:Iaj is legit always slimy though. Same Tired Moritz posted:I dont think pera is doing her usual town game. Seems very off I am not and I have now thrice told you that due to an enormous amount of picking and private complaint, I'm trying to buck against it. That means first and foremost taking a step back because when I go hog on anything, I can say so much it's loving deafening. As scum this is good but it's always detrimental as town. And a lot of work either way Prince of Space posted:I noticed you've been sussin' peramene all game and I wanted to hear your take on her. Now it seems like both you and Venom Soag are saying the same gut-feeling thing about her. Even though I agree with your conclusion, I'm not sure I'm comfortable backing this reasoning, especially because I explicitly theorized it d1. Always gotta be super suspicious of chaining anything, especially when you're confident. Prince of Space posted:Mind you all, this here buff I have is a minor increase to all stats, lasts fer one whole day, and it can't be applied to those who're injured. You loving idiot.
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hi, it's me, peramene; prolific liar, bad town player, friend to all who kiss i spent a lot of effort and posting trying to get around saying the buff's name, indeed wanting to give only the information that was loving necessary space, you jackass, how many different ranks or whatever do you think have the ability to do the same ability for gently caress'S SAKE this entire line of questioning and/or confusing has either been blatant rolefishing that I'm disgusted to be basically trapped into checking the loving yes box so Good Play, I Guess but I cannot imagine that an upstanding texas citizen would make this mistake PoS is now my primary target and imo a safe-as-gently caress bet-hedger because even if he isn't scum, he sure seems keen to do their work for them. ##vote prince of space I'm gonna reread his dumbass now.
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Natural 20 posted:I think withholding the NK for a tactical advantage is unlikely. I disagree entirely - a nightkill that doesn't actually kill could be withheld and the "recipient" for that day could straight up pretend to have been targeted. Nightkills that don't explicitly kill should - at least to my "permanent scum mindset" - be used utterly differently. Add to that that KB happens to be the player who taught me this. In one of cpig's games, he was smart enough to realize that everything in the game was topsy-loving-turvied to the extreme on DAY ONE. He took all of the knowledge he had as a scum player - which fantastically enough did indeed include a list of all the abilities in the game lmao - and he realized that the nightkill was incredibly dangerous to use. Too many town powers were "traditionally scum powers" that redirected, or lightning rod'd. Targeting anyone for a nightkill was playing russian roulette, always. Instead of just accepting it and spending the insane amount of effort trying to manipulate everyone into doing as he wanted in nightphase (impossible without the support of a competent team, which he did not have) which is what I had theorized I would do with that information, he realized that there was only one surefire guaranteed kill in the game: town's vote to execute. Unless I'm mistaken, he is in roughly the same position now, which makes him an incredibly brilliant adversary who also happens to be playing a faction which heads, so Holy poo poo Sara, he's simultaneously town as far as he's concerned, which he (disappointingly) prefers to play as, and can leverage his absolutely loving masterful scumbrain. It is entirely possible that KB would experiment to see what the NK does and then never use it again unless to specifically help buy cred for a prior fake target. Without explicitly knowing what it does in fact I'UNNO, but don't ever underestimate scum!KB. this was a much more entertaining post to write. im going for a walk. vote space
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Podima posted:Please don't edit your posts, even "ninja" edits aren't always safe! There's no shame in Mafia edits! Yeah I was ready to take my licks for that one. Again, phone posting sucks. Thank you for understanding.
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peramene posted:I disagree entirely - a nightkill that doesn't actually kill could be withheld and the "recipient" for that day could straight up pretend to have been targeted. Nightkills that don't explicitly kill should - at least to my "permanent scum mindset" - be used utterly differently. Okay, so the game is effectively super role madness. But, if we assume a scumteam of 4-5, they have knowledge of 4-5 roles. If additionally they have a diverse set of roles it's likely that they have a decent read on town capabilities. You're correct, in a game with swarms of redirects and lightningrods your best choice as scum is often to just not NK because you have no idea what the drat thing is actually going to do. But this isn't how I perceive soldiers. My character sheet gives me no out of battle actions during the battle phase. Given that nobody has reported outside of battle actions during the battle phase for the past two days, I have strong reason now to believe that this is universal. Given scum are likely to have known that this was universal since they have multiple character sheets to check, it seems likely then that they have no reason to fear a redirected night kill. Even if the target doesn't die, scum can pick players who seem like they have strong abilities or whose confirmation as town will make it more likely that other town targets die in the future. This benefit is at least similar to the gain granted by choosing to withhold the NK. Logically then, I think that if scum didn't cripple someone D1 they would be making a large tactical error, so I'm willing to buy flerp.
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Votecount for Day 3 Drunk Nerds (2): busb, flerp SirSamVimes (2): Little Mac, Prince of Space, Venom Soag, peramene (2): Venom Soag, Mithross (2): curiousCat, SLASHER HAWKE Prince of Space (1): peramene Natural 20 (1): Prince of Space, SLASHER HAWKE (0): Drunk Nerds, Venom Soag (0): busb, Drunk Nerds, Prince of Space, Not Voting (10): Atomic Soda, Bifauxnen, Drunk Nerds, iajanus, Jeabus Mahogany, Little Mac, Natural 20, SirSamVimes, Tired Moritz, tpink With 20 people still alive, it takes 11 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 09th, 2018 at 8 p.m. EST -- that's in about 7 hours, 28 minutes.  Compared to the jovial attitude after the previous victory, things got downright acrimonious at Camp Mabry in the wake of their drubbing at the Mexicans' hands. A handful of hot-headed members of the State Guard snuck off for a few head-clearing drinks at the local saloon. Draining mug after mug, the conversation grew steadily more heated as they tried to figure out who among them could be a filthy rotten traitor. All well and good, until they began accusing each other! Ultimately, they darn near trashed the place until Ma turned up to drag them all back to camp by the ear.
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 While reviewing, I noted that some people were not provided with correct/clear information on their sheets. Everyone should review for potential updates. Thank you for your continued patience.
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Ohhhhh, I see. You meant that bitch. You and Bizarro Asiina are giving me fuckin flash backs, you know. I don't think I can afford to go the third option in this scenario. But do I have a new fourth option this time? Both instead of neither? Is that wishful thinking? To the rest of you: morning all, why are there not more votes
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