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RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

Darth Brooks posted:

I wonder what percentage of england is the pre-celts and how much is the Roman, Angle, Saxon, Danish and Norman.

https://peopleofthebritishisles.web.ox.ac.uk/population-genetics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_British_Isles



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The dark blue Norwegian contribution stands out clearly in the Orkney samples, as expected, but represents only about a 25% Norse Viking admixture. This shows that the Norse Vikings certainly did not wipe out the resident Pictish population and replace it, but rather intermarried significantly with it. There are also clear Norwegian contributions to all the Scottish and Northern Ireland samples, less to Northern England, even less to Wales and very small contributions elsewhere.

The three Welsh clusters are the most distinctive and completely lack contributions from North and North West Germany (EU3 pink) and Northern France (EU17 red). They have the largest contributions from West Germany (EU6 medium green) and North West France (EU14 dark green). This configuration strongly suggests that the Welsh may be closest to the original settlers who came to Britain after the end of the ice age. While there is no clear ‘Celtic Fringe’, as is so often assumed, there is evidence of ancient British DNA in common with other British populations, especially in Scotland and Northern Ireland, but less in Cornwall, or Devon, in contrast to what might have been expected.

The small differences between South and North Pembrokeshire, especially the slightly larger contributions from Belgium (EU11 yellow) and Denmark (EU18 dark red) (matching Danish place names in South Pembrokeshire) are consistent with the suggestion that this group may represent the area that is sometimes called “Little England Beyond Wales”. This is because the farmers settled there by Henry II probably mostly came from that part of Europe.

The most obvious contribution representing the Anglo-Saxons is EU3 (pink) from North and North West Germany. That is consistent with the lack of evidence for Anglo-Saxon incursions into Wales. Denmark (EU18 dark red) is another clear candidate for an Anglo-Saxon contribution. Based on these two contributions, the best estimates for the proportion of presumed Anglo-Saxon ancestry in the large eastern, central and southern England cluster (red squares) are a maximum of 40% and could be as little as 10%. This is strong evidence against an Anglo-Saxon wipe-out of the resident ancient British population, but clearly indicates extensive admixture between the incoming invaders and the indigenous people. The difference between Devon and Cornwall is most probably due to the greater Saxon influence in Devon, this being consistent with the slightly greater contributions of EU3 (pink) and EU18(dark red) to the makeup of the Devon cluster as compared to that in Cornwall.

The homogeneity of the east, central and southern British cluster (red squares) with no obvious differences in the Danish contribution (EU18 dark red) between them and the more northern English populations, strongly suggests that the Danish Vikings, in spite of their major influence through the “Danelaw’ and many place names of Danish origin, contributed little of their DNA to the English population.

There is evidence for only a very small Spanish contribution to the PoBI samples, in contrast to what has been claimed by some authors.

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Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
Wales is popular as ever I see.

naem
May 29, 2011

Grape posted:

Wales is popular as ever I see.

I wish the japanese would stop hunting them

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
I saw a more global map with those kind of gene wheels, and let's just say Uzbekistan gets around.

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.


Thanks, that's very cool. I did notice this:

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Danish Vikings, in spite of their major influence through the “Danelaw’ and many place names of Danish origin, contributed little of their DNA to the English population.


In November 1002, the English king "ordered slain all the Danish men who were in England". It seems to have been effective.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

naem posted:

I wish the japanese would stop hunting them

I’m fine with it

naem
May 29, 2011

WatermelonGun posted:

I’m fine with it

they say it’s for scientific purposes but you know they’re eating them

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WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

naem posted:

they say it’s for scientific purposes but you know they’re eating them


WatermelonGun posted:

I’m fine with it

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