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My local Asian market closed down. Waimakiriri: too white to even have tasty food
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Mar 1, 2023 02:42
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Just lol if you don't have dozens of rando Asian supermarkets to choose from.
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Mar 1, 2023 03:18
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Imagine not having any, let alone enough for them to specialise into regional/national cuisines.
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Mar 1, 2023 03:50
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Sphyre posted:Footpath painted lines do nothing to induce additional bike users because they're not practical for transportation - most footpaths resemble a pump track due to the number of driveway cutouts, and cause further resentment from car users ("why aren't they using the bike lane!?"). They're useless. It's literally better to do nothing at all. Wrong! They aren't going to get any longer distance commuters using them sure, we still need arterial routes to have fully separated bike paths, but for mobility around the local community they're great. Gonna pull out the ol' stat that 1/6 of car journeys are less than 2km and nearly half are less than 5km. A big reason that more of those distances aren't done by bike is because people don't feel safe, and having sanctioned footpath space helps that a lot. This is a particularly gendered thing too, a big part of why far more men than women bike is because of perceptions of safety. Slavvy posted:People who are willing to ride on the sidewalk at 10kmh already do that whether there's lines or not. Nah people are very reluctant to ride on the sidewalk even when it's obviously wide enough. I do because I don't give a gently caress but NZers are diligent rule followers. Just making it legal to ride your bike on the footpath would probably achieve the same thing but then you'd get assholes hooning down hills as 40kph and killing kids/old people.
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Mar 1, 2023 06:02
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You're wrong but I can't be bothered arguing with you
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Mar 1, 2023 06:11
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Slavvy posted:You're wrong but I can't be bothered arguing with you that's ok, your refutations are always "your claims don't align with my specific, personal experience and therefore are wrong"  Same with sphyre w/r/t cycling, now that I think of it
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Mar 1, 2023 06:19
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I sort of understand what you are advocating for, is it a remotely likely thing? My understanding was local politics in most of New Zealand is all about cars and isn't going to spend money on cyclists.
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Mar 1, 2023 06:51
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What I "advocate" for is a fully interconnected system of separated cycle ways all around the city. What's preventing this from happening is carbrained idiots who think you can solve urban traffic problems just by building more roads and fix climate change by switching to EVs, and an alliance of business associations, residents groups and NIMBYs lobbying to make sure that 1/2 of our road space is exclusively used for storing cars, and the other half exclusively for driving cars. What Wayne Brown has said that I think has a kernel of truth is that there are ways to improve bike accessibility without the need for big budget, fully consulted, 50-year business-cased projects. For example, some footpaths could have a line painted down the middle to encourage cycling off the road. I don't agree with the posters saying that this is worse than the status quo, though I agree it is far from the ideal.
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Mar 1, 2023 07:17
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bike tory posted:that's ok, your refutations are always "your claims don't align with my specific, personal experience and therefore are wrong" i’ll look over the piles of evidence you’ve provided to prove that “markings on the footpath have any effect on modeshare whatsoever” and get back to you
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Mar 1, 2023 07:20
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No, it is the cyclists who are wrong
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Mar 1, 2023 07:29
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Sphyre posted:i’ll look over the piles of evidence you’ve provided to prove that “markings on the footpath have any effect on modeshare whatsoever” and get back to you Pretty well understood that safety concerns are one of the biggest barriers to mode shift. As you'd expect, this is not true among people such as yourself who are in the "committed commuters" group, but rather among people who are supportive of cycling but don't currently do it much/as much as they'd like. 70% of people surveyed said that painted cycle lanes would encourage them to ride more. They weren't asked specifically about footpath lines but given that it's more separated from the roadway it seems logical that this would also be the case. The Symonds St bridge and far end of K Road is a great example of this working well imo. Tāmaki Drive is an example of it not working well, and fortunately they've built a dedicated cycle path. Slavvy posted:No, it is the cyclists who are wrong unironically yeah? We need to ask people who aren't cycling why not? How is that difficult to understand. voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 07:40
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The far end of k road sucks rear end? You go from having an excellent separate cycle lane, which is still infested with dummies stepping across without looking, to a hosed up zigzag around a busy bus stop with poor sight lines. It is not logically the case that people would think of a divided sidewalk as being the same as a cycle lane wtf I also think that a lot of the reasons people give for not cycling are bullshit and the reality is they prefer the comfort and convenience of a car but are too ashamed to just outright say it
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Mar 1, 2023 07:47
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bike tory posted:What I "advocate" for is a fully interconnected system of separated cycle ways all around the city. What's preventing this from happening is carbrained idiots who think you can solve urban traffic problems just by building more roads and fix climate change by switching to EVs, and an alliance of business associations, residents groups and NIMBYs lobbying to make sure that 1/2 of our road space is exclusively used for storing cars, and the other half exclusively for driving cars. I'm rural in the South Island and wasn't quite following that Wayne Brown was suggesting spending on cyclists at all, sort of figured he was solely for more cars, less public transport and the death penalty for cycling.
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Mar 1, 2023 07:52
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Slavvy posted:The far end of k road sucks rear end? You go from having an excellent separate cycle lane, which is still infested with dummies stepping across without looking, to a hosed up zigzag around a busy bus stop with poor sight lines. You're right people actually prefer to be off the road than using an on-road painted strip: they actually rate just having "trails and pathways separated from the roadways" as highly or almost as highly as "dedicated cycleways" among improvements that would encourage them to bike more. tl;dr most people don't care about having to share the their bike space with pedestrians like you seem to! E: Content to Hover posted:I'm rural in the South Island and wasn't quite following that Wayne Brown was suggesting spending on cyclists at all, sort of figured he was solely for more cars, less public transport and the death penalty for cycling. Wayne isn't actually anti-cycling, he often bikes to work himself and also bikes for leisure/exercise. He's just an arrogant dick convinced that the only reason AT hasn't delivered on its goals of doubling cycling as a percent of the mode share is because they didn't have his Big Brain Ideas thThat Will Fix Everything™. Auckland Council is currently going through the budget with a machete though, some of the proposed cuts are loving brutal. And it's all to avoid raising rates even remotely close to inflation. I think the necessary rates rise to avoid any cuts is only $8/week on the average homeowner. Apparently that's too much more to pay for all the services they're getting rid of. voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 08:37
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Content to Hover posted:I'm rural in the South Island and wasn't quite following that Wayne Brown was suggesting spending on cyclists at all, sort of figured he was solely for more cars, less public transport and the death penalty for cycling.
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Mar 1, 2023 08:42
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Rozzbot posted:I got to visit to Sydney for the first time last week (work trip just happened to sync up with Mardi Gras When I moved back to Wellington from Melbourne, I had to get used to reading timetables again. Also taking an earlier bus because the one I wanted is often full.
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Mar 1, 2023 08:45
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bike tory posted:You're right people actually prefer to be off the road than using an on-road painted strip: they actually rate just having "trails and pathways separated from the roadways" as highly or almost as highly as "dedicated cycleways" among improvements that would encourage them to bike more. All this tells me is that people who don't cycle don't know what sucks about it and think sharing paths with pedestrians doesn't suck
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Mar 1, 2023 09:03
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Cycle lanes exist so you can cream past all the losers in stop/start car traffic at like 30 km/h with your huge fuckin bicycle leg muscles. If you're on the footpath you ain't gonna be much faster than walking cause of all the previously mentioned obstacles
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Mar 1, 2023 09:35
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our problem with public transport is that we didn't get nuked like japan or else we would have kept our rail and maybe even by now started on or would have had a high speed rail network
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Mar 1, 2023 09:36
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Rozzbot posted:Cycle lanes exist so you can cream past all the losers in stop/start car traffic at like 30 km/h with your huge fuckin bicycle leg muscles. If you're on the footpath you ain't gonna be much faster than walking cause of all the previously mentioned obstacles clearly the solution is us drivers and cyclists need to band together and ban pedestrians
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Mar 1, 2023 09:37
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Certainly can't think of anywhere in the world where cyclists and pedestrians share the same footpath.
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Mar 1, 2023 12:06
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i think we can convince wayne that a congestion charge for central auckland is a sufficiently engineer-brained idea that will also prevent the council from having to make cuts
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Mar 1, 2023 12:32
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carrionman posted:My local Asian market closed down. im in there
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Rozzbot posted:Cycle lanes exist so you can cream past all the losers in stop/start car traffic at like 30 km/h with your huge fuckin bicycle leg muscles. If you're on the footpath you ain't gonna be much faster than walking cause of all the previously mentioned obstacles gently caress yeah
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Mar 1, 2023 17:18
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it's called a footpath for a reason folks
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Mar 1, 2023 19:18
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Slavvy and Bike Tory are both right for different reasons, because they ride bikes for different reasons. Slavvy is from the lycra and 13.4 grams of carbonfiber bike frame set, who times his every ride and gets hopping mad if he's 0.1sec off his PB for his daily commute. Bike Tory rides towing a trailer behind him containing a couple of kids and the weekly groceries, plus potentailly his partner riding on the handlebar at the same time. Bike Tory will accept any space for his bike that's away from heavy vehicles, as he makes a leisurely journey. Slavvy wants to maintain a minimum speed of 50km/h for the whole journey and can't tolerate having to deal with any obstacles beyond smooth concrete.
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Mar 1, 2023 19:52
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It's well documented itt that Slavvy goes everywhere with a brick of water bottles (weighing well in excess of 35 books) strapped to his bike. Pretty much, I think we're talking at cross purposes. I'm just saying it's true you can probably achieve greater mode shift with some cheap projects, Sphyre and Slavvy are talking about what's needed for people to sustain 25+kph the whole trip. You're right that on any given day I have 50+ kg on the back of my bike, but never my partner. She doesn't ride despite wanting to because it's not safe enough.
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NZAmoeba posted:Slavvy and Bike Tory are both right for different reasons, because they ride bikes for different reasons. Lol no I'm not wtf bike tory posted:It's well documented itt that Slavvy goes everywhere with a brick of water bottles (weighing well in excess of 35 books) strapped to his bike. This is true though. Although my average speed on my fastest bike even when I'm trying hard comes out around 22-23, my preference is 100+km rides that avoid the city altogether on a heavier slower bike. On my commute, using my two wheeled Hilux, I'm doing like 21kmh at best and it's almost exclusively on the NW cycleway and cycle lanes. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Mar 1, 2023 |
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Mar 1, 2023 20:13
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Some analysis of Christchurch bike counters found that the growth in cycling numbers is in the dedicated major cycle routes and not so much in the existing on-road cycle lanes shared with traffic. http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2023/01/21/chch-cycle-counter-update-2022-lockdown-jitters/ There's a huge untapped market of people who want to bike but don't think it's safe enough- like bike Tory's partner. Also cheapest way to implement cheap cycle lanes is to take out the street parking. But some politicians don't want to do that, and so drive there costs up
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Mar 1, 2023 21:31
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The 27T being cancelled indefinitely might as well be this.
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NZAmoeba posted:Slavvy is from the lycra and 13.4 grams of carbonfiber bike frame set, who times his every ride and gets hopping mad if he's 0.1sec off his PB for his daily commute. many are saying this!
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bike tory posted:
Ironically enough my commute to work is mostly on John Key’s cycle way in to town so I easily average around 25-30km/h on my e-bike when I ride to/from work. No Lycra or dedicated cycling muscles in sight. Unfortunately this year I have to take the kids to school so I don’t have the option to cycle anymore.
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Mar 1, 2023 23:55
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I'm still unimpressed at having to bike along the side of a 80k 4 lane stretch. At least I have a few bits of paint to protect me. All the boys of broken glass end up there too, I've had two flat tyres this year already
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Bloody Pom posted:The 27T being cancelled indefinitely might as well be this. At least the mighty 70 gets you to Grafton bridge
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Varkk posted:Ironically enough my commute to work is mostly on John Key’s cycle way in to town so I easily average around 25-30km/h on my e-bike when I ride to/from work. No Lycra or dedicated cycling muscles in sight. Unfortunately this year I have to take the kids to school so I don’t have the option to cycle anymore. Either you're stronger than you think or your bike is  illegal because as far as I know they stop assisting at 25kmh
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Really? I can get up to 30kph pretty easily on mine, more if I'm pedalling hard. As far as I can tell the speedo isn't even connected to the motor. Maybe that's a mid-drive design thing?
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Mar 2, 2023 02:21
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Just looked it up and it seems nz is the wild west because the government doesn't stipulate a maximum assist speed, so whether you have a limiter or not is down to the manufacturer and distributor. Which means we have essentially unregistered, warrantless mopeds running around. Neat!
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Mar 2, 2023 02:27
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Oh no! Not unregistered, warrantless mopeds!
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I think so long as the output power is under a certain amount of watts it is all fine.
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