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Brock and Taker trying to kill each other in 2002 is the best cell match.
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bobkatt013 posted:The best Hell in the Cell is and will forever be Undertaker vs HBK Badd Blood. For some reason I completely forgot about it. You could be right. I'm a pretty big Foley mark and I remember just absolutely losing it as a 12 year old during the Cactus Jack/HHH cell match, so I'm a little biased. The 6 way Cell match at Armageddon was pretty fun too, including Rikishi getting dropped off the cell into a dump truck. Pretty much the definition of Attitude era excess. Fauxhawk Express posted:Brock and Taker trying to kill each other in 2002 is the best cell match. Crazy bleeding Paul Heyman will always make this match own Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Brock and Taker trying to kill each other in 2002 is the best cell match. This is my favourite cell match of all time. Just two guys doing what they do best and killing the poo poo out of each other in a giant chainlink structure.
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I'm probably just thinking about this because of the discussion yesterday and the Cell, but I'd probably toss on the bookends of the Triple H/Batista feud, the 2005 Elimination Chamber and their HIAC match at Vengeance 2005. They're both great matches and the intensity level is above anything WWE has done in many years.
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Anything from the HHH-Shawn Michaels feud in the early 2000s would probably be appropriate. Their Street Fight at (I think) Summerslam 2002 was really crazy.
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HBK vs Hogan Summerslam is a classic
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I'd throw HBK vs Mankind from "IYH: Mind Games" on there as well. Solid match that isn't too long and holds your attention the whole time.
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Professor Funk posted:Anything from the HHH-Shawn Michaels feud in the early 2000s would probably be appropriate. Their Street Fight at (I think) Summerslam 2002 was really crazy. The SummerSlam '02 match is great, but the problem with that feud is that every singles match between them is worse than the one before it. As the feud dragged on, the matches became longer and more masturbatory. Watch the SummerSlam '02 match, watch the triple threat match at WrestleMania XX, and don't bother with any of the others.
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bobkatt013 posted:HBK vs Hogan Summerslam is a classic Yeah this definitely isn't a match you'd show to someone new to wrestling. Shawn's ridiculous overselling would more than likely garner a "Wow what is this fake bullshit?" rather than a "Wow this is awesome!" reaction from a new fan.
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bradzilla posted:Yeah this definitely isn't a match you'd show to someone new to wrestling. Shawn's ridiculous overselling would more than likely garner a "Wow what is this fake bullshit?" rather than a "Wow this is awesome!" reaction from a new fan. This is probably reaching, but the match might be worthwhile on some level if only to show a new fan about A) how commonplace such backstage politicking is in the wrestling world and B) how that politicking can affect the quality of matches. If he just wants to try to enjoy wrestling on an aesthetic level then yeah, keep him far away from this one. But yeah that was a really loving terrible situation and it made both guys look horrible. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 8, 2013 |
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Professor Funk posted:Anything from the HHH-Shawn Michaels feud in the early 2000s would probably be appropriate. Their Street Fight at (I think) Summerslam 2002 was really crazy. And then HBK be all like...HBK.
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We had some non-wrestling watchers checking out WM with my group of friends Sunday night and one of them asked a good question. Are Fandango's dancers (or I guess more specifically, his main one) supposed to be heels too?
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Quasipox posted:Are Fandango's dancers (or I guess more specifically, his main one) supposed to be heels too? The main one is the only one you'll see with any regularity. I'm pretty sure those other ladies were for Mania only, and yeah, the main one is his valet and I would assume has the same alignment as him (heel).
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Quasipox posted:We had some non-wrestling watchers checking out WM with my group of friends Sunday night and one of them asked a good question. Yeah I've wondered this for a long time. I'm hoping one day way down the line she suddenly gets involved in one of Fandango's matches, making him win a title or something. I think the crowd would react to the dancer who previously just faded into the background doing something big out of nowhere.
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Listening to the Punchcast (which is my new fave thing) has any NXT wrestler carried their gimmick on to WWE?
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Manwithastick posted:Listening to the Punchcast (which is my new fave thing) has any NXT wrestler carried their gimmick on to WWE? Are you talking modern day NXT/FCW, or the old show NXT too? If you're counting the old show Kaval didn't change too much I don't think. A-Ri was basically the same, Miz's lackey/ jock guy.
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Manwithastick posted:Listening to the Punchcast (which is my new fave thing) has any NXT wrestler carried their gimmick on to WWE? Dean Ambrose, to an extent. He's pretty much the same character, just as part of a stable. And I pray that Bray Wyatt stays the same.
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Percy Watson didn't change much at all either, if he counts. I think he's in the Dean Ambrose zone where you do dark matches for 2 years.
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VogeGandire posted:Dean Ambrose, to an extent. He's pretty much the same character, just as part of a stable. Was he ever on NXT?
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triplexpac posted:Was he ever on NXT? Well, FCW, but he was technically on the NXT roster after the merge.
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Quasipox posted:We had some non-wrestling watchers checking out WM with my group of friends Sunday night and one of them asked a good question. She hasn't done anything overtly heel, but she tends to sneer at his opponents so I'd say it's a safe bet she's heel
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Other than *maybe* Elizabeth (who seemed perpetually face or at least neutral), I can't think of too many managers/valets who had a different heel/face alignment than their charges.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Other than *maybe* Elizabeth (who seemed perpetually face or at least neutral), I can't think of too many managers/valets who had a different heel/face alignment than their charges. Santino and Maria
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jeffersonlives posted:Santino and Maria I loved that era of Santino. Him and Maria were comedy gold.
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89 posted:Somebody's gonna have to help me out here but long ago during Samoa Joe's ROH title run, there was a tag match. It was during the Aries/Joe feud. I think Aries/Joe got into a fight before or after it. Anyways, I remember feeling like that tag match was just a perfect introduction to the whole ROH thing. Back when I would make VHS compilations, I was going to put it on a compilation that was geared as an introduction into pro wrestling for the person who isn't a pro wrestling fan yet. Just...can't remember which tag match it was other than it had Joe in it.. Cena vs. Umaga Last Man Standing at Royal Rumble 2007 was awesome. For all the poo poo we can say about Cena as a character, he deserves another mention besides Money in the Bank 2011.
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jeffersonlives posted:Santino and Maria Ah, true. I forgot those two were even aligned. I'm so used to ignoring Santino. I guess AJ and Bryan during his heel run would probably qualify as well (since they were riffing on Savage/Liz).
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jeffersonlives posted:Santino and Maria Dolph and Maria as well. Maria likes bad boys! Kelly and Drew was heading in that direction too before it was aborted.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:42
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Face Undertaker was managed during his second title run by heel Paul Bearer, when he was being blackmailed with the secret that turned out to be him killing his parents.
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Cherry with Deuce and Domino. Why I remember this, I don't know.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Other than *maybe* Elizabeth (who seemed perpetually face or at least neutral), I can't think of too many managers/valets who had a different heel/face alignment than their charges. Jamie Noble Boy and blind!Nidia
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Mike Knox and Kelly Kelly is another one
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Taijiri and Torrie, too drat there's a bunch of abusive boyfriend angles
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Yeah poo poo, I was racking my brain thinking of male managers but they sure love to portray abuse in their own special way.
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Then there are the creepy angles where you win the manager for the weekend or any time period and it is a bit rapey. During this time there is a face/heel dynamic, but then the face manager turns on her previous charge to be heel since she likes being evil since good is stupid.
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Chuck Palumbo and Michelle McCool Test and Stacy Keibler
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Didn't that angle end with Test and Steiner discovering they enjoyed abusing Stacy?
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bobkatt013 posted:Didn't that angle end with Test and Steiner discovering they enjoyed abusing Stacy? Yeah that sounds about right
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Gaylord Plower posted:drat there's a bunch of abusive boyfriend angles It's been one of their favorite midcard tropes for awhile because it's easy heat. Cheap heat that doesn't transfer or last, but that's better than nothing.
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The original abusive boyfriend angle, which got the Dirty White Boy death threats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9XZ-eEW8Fo What's interesting is how suspicious Pritchard is at first, then he gives in. Should have gone with your gut instinct, Tom.
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