KitConstantine posted:

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1512158447491551233?t=286yzulKM3CE2eqZz81QaQ&s=19
I can't jump the paywall rn anyone wanna take a look at this article and see if it has more info ?

Ukraine get plane as a treat?

quote:

Nato member states have agreed to supply new types of advanced weaponry to Ukraine, alliance representatives have said, as Kyiv prepares for a fresh offensive by Russia in the country’s east.

The pledge came after a plea from Ukraine’s foreign minister for western countries to move faster with fresh supplies or instead see “many people die . . . because this help came too late”.

Six weeks since Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, ordered the invasion of Ukraine, Moscow’s troops have largely withdrawn from territory north of Kyiv after failing to seize the capital but are regrouping and rearming ahead of an attempt to advance in the eastern Donbas region, Ukrainian and western officials say.

That has sparked demands from Kyiv for western countries to supply more heavy weapons, armour and more advanced systems. Ukraine’s foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba said he would use a Nato meeting in Brussels to ask for aircraft, missiles, armoured vehicles and heavy air defence systems, among others.

UK foreign secretary Liz Truss told reporters after the meeting that member states had backed giving more weapons.

“There was support for countries to supply new and heavier equipment to Ukraine, so that they can respond to these new threats from Russia,” she said. “And we agreed to help Ukrainian forces move from their Soviet-era equipment to Nato standard equipment, on a bilateral basis.”

Antony Blinken, US secretary of state, said Washington was looking at sending “new systems” to Ukraine.

“We are not going to let anything stand in the way of getting Ukrainians what they need,” he said. “We are looking across the board right now, not only at what we have provided . . . [but] whether there are additional systems that would make a difference.”

The promise of more military aid came as Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s spokesperson, admitted Russia had suffered “significant losses of troops” during its invasion of Ukraine, which he described as “a huge tragedy for us”.

Peskov said Russia had withdrawn from Kyiv and Chernihiv in central Ukraine last week as a “goodwill act to lift tension from those regions and show Russia is really ready to create comfortable conditions to continue negotiations”. But fighting would continue in the Donbas, he added.

Nato member countries have supplied Ukraine with anti-tank missiles, drones and other defensive weaponry before and during the war. However, they have declined to supply other classes of weapons or impose a no-fly zone, as Kyiv has demanded, over the risk of engaging Russia in a wider war.

Kuleba said afterwards he was “cautiously optimistic” that alliance states would meet his demand but warned that delays would result in more deaths.

“Either you help us now, and I am speaking about days . . . or your help will come too late,” Kuleba said. “Many people will die . . . exactly because this help came too late.”

He added: “I was very specific about the requests and the timeline that they should be accommodated. I will be looking forward to the follow-up from allies.”

Ukraine has warned Russia is preparing a fresh offensive in the Donbas, aimed at seizing territory in the two administrative regions of Luhansk and Donetsk, which separatists have partially occupied since a Moscow-backed uprising in 2014.

Ukraine’s military authorities on Wednesday called on residents living in the regions to leave “while they still had the chance”.

Jens Stoltenberg, Nato’s secretary-general, said allies had agreed to “further strengthen” support for Ukraine immediately and in the “medium and long term”.

“It was a clear message from the meeting today that allies should do more and are ready to do more to supply more equipment. They realise and recognise the urgency,” he said.

Meanwhile, the UN’s general assembly on Thursday voted to suspend Russia from the Geneva-based Human Rights Council, in a new international rebuke to Moscow over the invasion of Ukraine and alleged atrocities.

Ninety-three UN members approved Russia’s suspension — the first imposed on any permanent member of the UN security council.

However, 24 UN members, including China, Iran, Bolivia and Kazakhstan, voted against Russia’s suspension. Another 58 countries abstained, including India, Indonesia and Egypt, showing that a wide range of countries are either siding with Moscow or remaining neutral as the military conflict continues.

KitConstantine posted:

Oooooh news!

Preliminary list of the new sanctions package from the EU
https://twitter.com/NewsfeedUkraine/status/1512152216555208710?s=20&t=YW29iEHvx8XP9X0Mk0-Ucw
the third one is the biggie imo. Shipping is pretty much Russia's lifeblood and that means they can't refuel at ports either.

Trainee PornStar posted:

Reminds me of talking to an ex-services guy at tankfest, his statement on war was that 'its not fluffy bunny time'... thats stuck with me.

War by definition is poo poo for all involved.

Hasselblad posted:

Uh...gotta wonder why it took till now for #2


e:f,b

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

This might be ghoulish to say, but did anyone else have Karma Police playing in their head?

Power Khan posted:

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1512165927563018240

loving Moron posted:

I really do think this ends with Putin being removed from power. He might not go the Gaddafi route but the strong man facade is crumbling and there has to be a few brave and/or opportunistic people willing to take the chance.

Also Kit you are doing a bang up job as the IK for such an emotional thread.

poverty goat posted:

is there a good place for a submarine to get hit w/ a javelin?

pro starcraft loser posted:

Well, gently caress.

There are a lot of very rich, very powerful people in Russia completely hamstrung by Putin's little Hitler adventure in Ukraine. They know this won't end anytime soon with him retaining power.

Flyinglemur posted:

If the submarine is on the surface then hitting it in the sail, that big part that sticks up, is probably the only real target. If the sub is already rigged for dive, there's a chance the javelin would explode inside the sail but not in the people tank. It would still render the submarine useless and I assume that people are talking about how to hit a submarine whilel it's n port next to a pier.

Until javelins work underwater, then the answer is still torpedo and not any kind of shoulder launched missile.

Barcley posted:

In drydock?

mobby_6kl posted:

Is there a reason a javelin wouldn't work underwater? Worst case, make it two stage, so it will dive under water close to the target and swim like a torpedo with the second stage

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Watch The Beast

the article posted:

The United Nations General Assembly on Thursday suspended Russia from the U.N. Human Rights Council over reports of "gross and systematic violations and abuses of human rights" in Ukraine, prompting Moscow to announce it was quitting the body.

The U.S.-led push garnered 93 votes in favor, while 24 countries voted no and 58 countries abstained. A two-thirds majority of voting members in the 193-member General Assembly in New York - abstentions do not count - was needed to suspend Russia from the 47-member Geneva-based Human Rights Council.

Speaking after the vote, Russia's deputy U.N. Ambassador Gennady Kuzmin described the move as an "illegitimate and politically motivated step" and then announced that Russia had decided to quit the Human Rights Council altogether.

"You do not submit your resignation after you are fired," Ukraine's U.N. Ambassador Sergiy Kyslytsya told reporters.

teardrop posted:

“I thought we were still playing gently caress, marry, kill?”

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

When I was stationed in Korea I was issued a Geneva Convention card. Our instructions if we happened to be captured was to present the card and stress the importance of the Geneva Convention, because at the time, Kim Jong-Il didn't seem like the type of person to actually honor the Conventions, so we were essentially being told "they're supposed to honor the Geneva Convention, but we're not sure if the North Korean soldiers actually WILL".

They were sort of known for being cruel and vicious, you see.

Despite all that there was never any language or sentiment effectively saying "well, since we KNOW they're gonna gently caress us up pretty bad, there's no reason for US to be nice to THEM!" because there's just no place for that kind of premeditated brutality in what is very much regarded as a civilized fighting force, and despite the contradiction in terms there have always been and will always be severe consequences for any of that kind of poo poo, as well there should be. War is hell, but as long as there will be a time after the war, there will be a reckoning.

Russia will absolutely receive a reckoning, and it will be a strong and harsh rebuke proportional to the harm they have done to the Ukrainian people, the stability of the European Union, and threats to other legitimate democracies in the region. Do not poison your souls with images of blood lust and revenge, that's exactly the sort of poo poo that got Russia into the mess they're in.

There WILL be a reckoning.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

This is always out of the mouth of someone justifying war crimes. It is beyond repugnant.

Fame Douglas posted:

Yeah, Russia should have never started this war. It's disgusting.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

In case you try to edit out how stupid this is.

Fame Douglas posted:

It is? Do you think Russia was justified in their war of aggression?

Fame Douglas posted:

It is? Do you think Russia was justified in their war of aggression?

Edit: lmao @ your edit

Cthulu Carl posted:

P. sure he meant your dumbass slapfighting.

Fame Douglas posted:

Thanks for the clarification, really needed that. Absolutely a great post! Always enjoy reading your insightful one-liners.

Fame Douglas posted:

Yeah, Russia should have never started this war. It's disgusting.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

speaking of shitter.

ben garrison has gone all the way. again.

KitConstantine posted:

Knock it off

Tiny Timbs posted:

I got an NLAW you can send to Ukraine. My mother ‘n law!!

Tiny Timbs posted:

I got an NLAW you can send to Ukraine. My mother ‘n law!!

Shinjobi posted:

Let em fight. I wanna see e-blood in this digital arena.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Can I offer you this NLAW in these trying times?

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Can I offer you this NLAW in these trying times?

KitConstantine posted:

What is NLAW?
Baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more
- the Russians probably

Also, avatar/post combo

Edit: I had to login on my phone browser for that probe, is how much I meant it. Knock it off.