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CygnusTM posted:Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by Sklansky. Can someone throw up a review of this? I heard it is based on an ante structure rather than blinds. Thanks
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Orbital Lance posted:Can someone throw up a review of this? I heard it is based on an ante structure rather than blinds. Thanks The 21st Century Edition is updated to include the Small/Big Blind Structure.
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Mar 13, 2006 07:38
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When they had antes, how did they decide who went first? Just have a dealer button but have it be meaningless other than position?
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Mar 15, 2006 23:05
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The Illustrated Guide to Texas Hold'em - Dennis Purdy - Sourcebooks inc. First poker book I have ever read and the results were immediate. There are 150 real-life illustrated examples of different hand scenerios, the author has a very good sense of humor, and most importantly it teaches you the ODDS on almost ever situation imaginable and how to calculate the risk. After reading it I have seriously become a contender in my tourneys. Rating out of 5 out of 5 stars Retail Price: $14.95
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Mar 16, 2006 04:04
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In regards to The Little Green Book, there is a new copy coming out in October called Phil Gordon's Little Blue Book : More Lessons and Hand Analysis in No Limit Texas Hold'em
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Mar 18, 2006 11:44
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Since it's an underplayed and *horribly* played game by most people playing, why not try Razz? Can be played on Full Tilt Poker or, well, in high mixed limit games. Or the WSOP event. That's basically it. Note: I will paraphrase Howard Lederer, the guy who is supposedly very, very hard to make annoyed. "It's hard to make me angry, but Razz can just about do it." Lots of suckouts, but that's okay. It's fun anyways. Sklansky on Poker/Sklansky on Razz - David Sklansky - 2 + 2 Publishing quote:
3.5/5 for the essays and 5/5 for the Razz section Retail Price: $29.95
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Mar 18, 2006 19:27
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Orbital Lance posted:Can someone throw up a review of this? I heard it is based on an ante structure rather than blinds. Thanks I don't think this was ever true - but the old version of his Hold 'em Poker (along with HEPFAP, I'd imagine) were based on the then more-common single blind structure. So instead of having a big blind and a small blind, there was just one blind. There are a lot of footnotes in Hold'em Poker that say "may not apply as often in the two-blind structure", "even more so in today's two blind structure", and so on.
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Apr 5, 2006 22:02
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I've renamed this thread the book discussion, question thread too, to cut down on the amount of threads lately about books. Anyhoo to contribute, anyone have thoughts on that "Best Hand I've Ever Played" book? I bought it about four months ago and it's just been sitting staring at me in my bookshelf. Do I: (1) Take the time to go through and read it? (2) Stick it in the bathroom, and use it whenever I have to go "powder my nose". E-mail: admin@rakebackresource.com / Rakeback Resource / Casino Answers! | Affiliate Bible
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Apr 18, 2006 04:42
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Scotsman posted:(2) Stick it in the bathroom, and use it whenever I have to go "powder my nose". I love re-reading the story Harrington tells at the end of HoH Vol.2 about Negreanu completely bluffing Deeb out of a significant heads-up pot. Well-told poker tales are a fine way to spend the time on one's throne.
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Apr 18, 2006 04:56
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Guys I am thinking of writing a new age crossover book about how to use Wicca to avoid bad beats and get good cards. I am going to use statistics to prove that it's better to be lucky than good and then show people ways to use self hypnosis and auras to read hands and draw out on people. I count on all of you to buy at least 3 copies!
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Apr 19, 2006 17:27
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I'm trying to decide what books to buy; I have already read "Kill Phil", "Harrington on Holdem v1" and "Small Stakes Holdem". I play mainly NL Cash games, 6 max when I can, microlimits. I have about 30$ to spend on books, which is why I am considering these books: Winning Texas Hold'em : Cash Game Poker Strategies for Players of All Skill Levels I'm almost definately getting the above, and I'm trying to decide beween the other two The Theory of Poker OR Phil Gordon's Little Green Book : Lessons and Teachings in No Limit Texas Hold'em OR The Psychology of Poker OR Suggest your own here! Thom Yorke raps fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 20, 2006 |
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Apr 20, 2006 00:44
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Ranma4703 posted:The Theory of Poker All 3  The first two are really necessities. Theory of Poker is a book every poker player should have in their library, and Gordon's book is also a great NL book. I'd try and figure out a way to get both of them. If you're really strapped, but able to move your BR around, e-mail admin@ultimatepokerbankroll.com and we might be able to work something out.
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Apr 20, 2006 01:50
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Scotsman posted:All 3 Is Gordon's book really worth it? The reason I don't want to get more books is I'm in the middle of my semester, and I don't have infinite time. I'm also afraid of getting a bunch of books and having a lot of overlap
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Apr 20, 2006 05:55
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This summer I really want to step up my NL cash game and tournament play. NL cash games much moreso than tournament play. Right now here is every poker book I own Little Green Book Theory of Poker HoH1 Winning Texas Hold 'Em GSIH SSHE 42 Lessons in 7 Card stud Spicy System I'm thinking about buying three books from amazon. I'm leaning towards HoH2, Tournament poker for advance players, and NL and Pot limit by Ciaffone. Should I consider other books instead of these three? If so which ones?
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Apr 20, 2006 06:46
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Ranma4703 posted:Winning Texas Hold'em : Cash Game Poker Strategies for Players of All Skill Levels
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Apr 20, 2006 15:42
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Mr. Orange posted:I wouldn't get it. I know it's cheap, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot (at the very least some) flawed concepts in there. Just stick to SSHE for limit hold 'em. What makes you say that?
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May 2, 2006 03:01
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Mr. Orange posted:I wouldn't get it. I know it's cheap, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot (at the very least some) flawed concepts in there. Just stick to SSHE for limit hold 'em. It's a pretty good book for its price. Definately not as good as SSHE, but it has some useful ideas. Just not as many as it should for a book "for all skill levels." There's a lot of things especially in the Short Handed chapter that he really needs to explain better since a newer player just isn't going to get it.
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May 2, 2006 03:29
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Ok, I reread some passages that I thought were horrible but I just didn't remember them correctly. However, I still don't think it's a good book. I hate learning stuff, I always try to take the short cut, but there hardly ever is one and definitely not in poker. I read this book after SSHE, ToP and a lot of articles on 2+2 and I always got the feeling that this book tries to give you a short cut on reading all that, which is simply not possible and even counterproductive in my opinion. As I said though, I misunderstood a small part, which would have made it an awful book, which it probably isn't. Sorry for that.
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May 2, 2006 21:17
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Its not a stand alone book, not even close, but I think ever limit player should read it at least once.
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May 9, 2006 04:56
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Does anyone have any input on The Book of Bluffs by Matt Lessinger? I received it as a gift and didn't know if it was worth my time or not. Also does anyone have any input on Weighing the Odds by King Yao? Any input would be appreciated.
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May 16, 2006 10:50
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I've heard that weighing the odds is supposed to be pretty good if you like the mathematical side of the game. Wouldn't hurt to read it I say
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May 16, 2006 20:28
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Scotsman posted:I've renamed this thread the book discussion, question thread too, to cut down on the amount of threads lately about books. I'd just stick it in the bathroom. It's an okay book, but it's about 99% entertainment, 1% educational.
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May 24, 2006 10:52
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So... having read the stuff over at 2p2 about NLTAP by Ed Miller et al, I am looking for, you know, real reviews of the book. Anyone have it in their hands yet? My local Barnes and Noble won't have it for antother week and a half since I live in the middle of a goddamn cornfield.
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Sub Par posted:So... having read the stuff over at 2p2 about NLTAP by Ed Miller et al, I am looking for, you know, real reviews of the book. Anyone have it in their hands yet? My local Barnes and Noble won't have it for antother week and a half since I live in the middle of a goddamn cornfield. I'll have it soon and will post a review ASAP.
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toybux posted:I'll have it soon and will post a review ASAP. Im thinking about picking this up. Where did you order from? Was it a good deal?
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Sub Par posted:So... having read the stuff over at 2p2 about NLTAP by Ed Miller et al, I am looking for, you know, real reviews of the book. Anyone have it in their hands yet? My local Barnes and Noble won't have it for antother week and a half since I live in the middle of a goddamn cornfield. I've pretty much give the book a fairly good look from front cover to back. I haven't reread many sections, and there are a lot of things worth rereading, so I won't write a nice long review, but I'll give you my impressions. The book has been extremely helpful to my NL play. A lot of the concepts needed to play deep-stack (or even moderately deep - say the 100 BB stacks on Party or Fortune) NL poker are different and sometimes completely the opposite of what you'd use in limit or short-stacked NL, and this book really hammers it home. It is not an instruction book, however. It doesn't give you step by step instructions on how to play a hand, not even to the degree that SSHE did. There are no hand quizzes in the back, although there is a great section with many many concepts from the book repeated (along with some new ones) in brief, which helps reinforce the lessons from other sections of the book. The book really is about concepts and understanding on a strategic level what it takes to win in NL hold'em. Things that aren't in the book, which might disappoint some people, include more than some basic ideas on shorter-stacked games that are pretty common online and in card rooms (although there is some info on how to adjust, and how stack sizes change the game), and virtually nothing on short-handed play. But, there's not really much specifically on full-ring play either, so I'm not sure that's really a weakness; again, the book is more about the strategic than the tactical, and the decision-making process is what they're trying to teach. Those are my initial thoughts. I'm really getting a lot out of the book, which makes me guess a lot of PITR can. It's a bit advanced for a first poker book, but assuming you've read Harrington or TOP or Phil Gordon's book or anything like that, you should be fine. There are some math heavy sections, but you don't necessarily have to follow the math to get what they're saying. They admit it would be impossible to do the math at the table anyway; it's really there to prove the validity behind their concepts and points.
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Just got my package from Amazon with NLHE: T&P and HOH:3 YAY!
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Winning Low-Limit Hold'em - Lee Jones - Conjelco quote:This book is alot better than people give it credit for, largely thanks to the large population of 2+2 and their fan-boys who will put it down simply because it is competing with SSHE. 3.8 out of 5 Retail Price: $24.95 Funso Banjo fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jun 10, 2006 |
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Jun 10, 2006 20:44
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I've read several of the books discussed, and I feel that the most interesting and helpful limit HE book was Hellmuth's Play Poker Like the Pros. I am annoyed by Phil as much as the next guy, but I thought there was some pretty good stuff in there. However, Sklansky's Theory of Poker was far and away the best poker book I've read overall.
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Funso Banjo posted:Winning Low-Limit Hold'em - Lee Jones - Conjelco I haven't read this book but I have to disagree with your statement that people like SSHE more because it advocates a looser playstyle. In reality, SSHE is too tight to extract maximum value out of most limit games, and anything suggesting to play tighter than it does is starting to give up solidly +EV spots.
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Sub Par posted:So... having read the stuff over at 2p2 about NLTAP by Ed Miller et al, I am looking for, you know, real reviews of the book. Anyone have it in their hands yet? My local Barnes and Noble won't have it for antother week and a half since I live in the middle of a goddamn cornfield. I got this book last weekend. I had read TOP, HoHE 1, half of HoHE 2, and SSHE, but I was looking for something to help me with no limit ring games. Limit games drive me nuts (too many perfunctory actions), but I like the approach that the authors of SSHE take towards decision making and the game in general. Most of concepts from Harrington cross over to cash games, but many do not. I am about halfway through NLTAP currently, but so far it is exactly what I was looking for: a solid theoretical treatment of no-limit games that is applicable to both tournament and cash games. Some of the concepts that have helped me are sizing bets for various goals, adjusting your play of speculative hands to different stack sizes (at its core an implied odds discussion), and controlling pot size. I still have half of the book left to go, so I'll be sure to come back with a full review (in the right format) when I finish.
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Xyven posted:I haven't read this book but I have to disagree with your statement that people like SSHE more because it advocates a looser playstyle. In reality, SSHE is too tight to extract maximum value out of most limit games, and anything suggesting to play tighter than it does is starting to give up solidly +EV spots. Are you kidding? SSHE seems too loose to me preflop for most standard online games, as it's written for extremely passive casino games where you're almost guaranteed to be able to see a flop for 1 SB. They advocate calling poo poo from UTG I wouldn't even think twice about folding.
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Jun 14, 2006 15:46
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Stefan Prodan posted:Are you kidding? SSHE seems too loose to me preflop for most standard online games, as it's written for extremely passive casino games where you're almost guaranteed to be able to see a flop for 1 SB. What are your stats out of curosity?
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LuckySevens posted:What are your stats out of curosity? Full ring or 6max? I mean, granted, I may be a little tight for full ring, I don't know. My VPIP is 18.03%, VPIP (SB) 32%, attempted to steal blinds 28%, won $ when saw flop 34%, BB/100 1.88, went to SD 28.6%, won $ at SD 54.02%, PF raise 9.64%. I play extremely tight UTG and UTG+1 (VPIP of 12% UTG), and about 23% VPIP on the button. Either way, I don't remember the examples offhand, but SSHE was advocating calling some stuff on UTG that I thought was too loose for a full ring game especially if it's not as passive as a casino game might be. I don't remember what but I think it was like KJo or something that I thought was a pretty crappy hand to be calling with. I don't know that was the exact hand though.
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Here's a review Trading in the Zone by Mark Douglas This book isn't about poker. It's about day trading. However, it could just as easily be applied to poker, and it's a very good book for getting yourself into the mindset required of either day trading or poker. I highly recommend this to anyone who plays even if they don't think they have any sort of problems getting emotional about play. For whatever reason, after reading it, I have felt NOTHING after losing or winning hands, as opposed to the mild quickly passing annoyed sensation I used to. I don't know why, especially considering when I read the book I was mostly saying "Well, duh" the whole time. But if you read the whole thing and sink in, I think it'll help you control your emotions better subconsciously, and that's incredibly valuable in a field where your winrate is razor thin compared to the variance. 3.5/5, I would give it a 4.5 if it were about poker, but I can't really rate something above 4 when it isn't actually a poker book.
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Xyven posted:I haven't read this book but I have to disagree with your statement that people like SSHE more because it advocates a looser playstyle. In reality, SSHE is too tight to extract maximum value out of most limit games, and anything suggesting to play tighter than it does is starting to give up solidly +EV spots. As Stefan says, you are wrong. SSHE advises playing Q9s and 89s, for example, UTG. You can't play that sort of thing unless you're in the most passive loose game. And online small stakes poker is not nearly passive enough to allow you to play that hand 90% of the time. No, I stand by my statement that people like SSHE simply because it advises loose play. They praise it because it is natural for people to want to play loose poker, and they praise the book which advises a looser game. They advise playing the same hands that Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by Sklansky and Malmuth advises, almost to the letter. Now Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players is a great book, but it is aimed at the mid and high level games, and rightly promotes an aggressive, moderate loose game. But small stakes games cannot tolorate that attitude, because the players are not advanced enough to respect your aggressive plays.
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So you guys are saying SSHE is too loose because ONE of its charts is a little too loose? Also, if I couldn't play Q9s/98s profitably from a small stakes table, id leave immediatly.
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LuckySevens posted:So you guys are saying SSHE is too loose because ONE of its charts is a little too loose? Ummmm.. Did you read all of what we said, or are you just typing things? Or do you really think you should be able to play those hands UTG? Also notice all I ever said was that SSHE was too loose "preflop". So, yes, since I said it is too loose preflop I am going to judge that by its preflop charts! Imagine that!
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Stefan Prodan posted:Ummmm.. From memory, doesn't it have multiple preflop charts depending on the game? That was more my point. And Im still pretty sure I could play Q9s EP limping it and making a profit in most online small stakes games.
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LuckySevens posted:And Im still pretty sure I could play Q9s EP limping it and making a profit in most online small stakes games.
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