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Origami Dali posted:I can't believe I've spent this much time talking about Heaven's Gate, of all loving movies. I mean this isn't directed at you specifically, but there seems to be some kind of incredulity that Criterion is releasing the film, along with a bunch of very predictable jokes that are of roughly the same vintage as the film itself. I think this is kinda silly in its own right, but it's particularly silly given that it doesn't have much, if anything, to do with the film itself, rather than popular opinion (and misconceptions) about it. I'm not raging against the negative opinions of the film---you are of course free to dislike any film you want to---and I'm not trying to champion it as a landmark of filmmaking or anything like that. The whole easy dismissal of the film as a punchline just feels really weak and lazy to me.
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Well, my dismissal is because I think Heaven's Gate is a bad film, not because of opinion A or B. It isn't particularly dismal, it's just a bore. And speaking at great length about a film that I personally feel so little towards doesn't strike me as a valuable use of time, yet here I am, hence of all loving films. My questioning the nature of this particular release of the film, however, is precisely because of opinion A or B and not because of my opinion of the quality of the film. I don't feel attacked or anything of the sort, and it's great that you can get jazzed up about it, but I didn't expect an off the cuff remark to turn into a full blown debate.
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FitFortDanga posted:
Oh, yes! X From Outer Space is such a weird, funky movie. I'm glad it's finally seeing release.
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Aug 16, 2012 07:28
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Maxwell Lord posted:Oh, yes! X From Outer Space is such a weird, funky movie. I'm glad it's finally seeing release. I love this release. Was so happy to see this.
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Aug 16, 2012 14:17
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X From Outer Space is what made me finally hook up my old VCR to my HDTV. I've been waiting for a DVD release forever. The fact that it comes with Goke, which I once over a decade ago and have been searching for ever since, is a slam dunk.
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Aug 16, 2012 16:29
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I can't remember, but are the November releases included in the B&N Fall Criterion sale? Or, was it just the first half of the month's releases?
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Twin Cinema posted:I can't remember, but are the November releases included in the B&N Fall Criterion sale? Or, was it just the first half of the month's releases? I think movies that are released the month of the sale get the discount as well, but don't hold me on that. There may be exceptions if the movies come out late in the month.
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I take full credit for Rashomon's arrival, since I just bitched about it the other day. This is the first Eclipse set that I'm 100% interested in, despite my aversion to buying new DVDs instead of blurays. I mean, I'm sure they scale up just fine, but I just get this fear from bad experiences with some of my DVDs…
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Mustach posted:I take full credit for Rashomon's arrival, since I just bitched about it the other day. Ever since they toured the new print around select theaters last year I've been dying for Rashomon on blu-ray as well, the restoration work looked incredible.
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Aug 16, 2012 22:09
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As far as I can recall, titles released during the sale are marked down. At the store I go to, anyway.
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Dangerous Person posted:As far as I can recall, titles released during the sale are marked down. At the store I go to, anyway. Yeah, the more I think about it, I am pretty sure this is the case. Because I was able to get Modern Times during the November '10 sale, but not the BBS boxset (at least, I assume this is why I bought it during a sale the summer after). I was just hoping that I'd be able to ask for Rashomon/Weekend/the Eclipse Series.
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Aug 16, 2012 23:53
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I've found this Heaven's Gate discussion interesting and realized that in my head I've been conflating Days of Heaven, Gates of Heaven and Heaven's Gate all into one movie. I really should watch all three of them to remedy this.
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Zogo posted:I've found this Heaven's Gate discussion interesting and realized that in my head I've been conflating Days of Heaven, Gates of Heaven and Heaven's Gate all into one movie. I really should watch all three of them to remedy this.
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Twin Cinema posted:I can't remember, but are the November releases included in the B&N Fall Criterion sale? Or, was it just the first half of the month's releases?
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robix smash posted:Be careful with box sets too, because B&N shipped my Fanny & Alexander in a thin plastic mailer instead of a box and the coverbox got all dinged up. Criterion's pretty good about replacing packaging. If you send them an e-mail saying your coverbox was damaged in shipping then they'll probably send you a free replacement. I bought a used copy of Bad Timing a while back that didn't have a booklet. I sent them an e-mail and had it by the end of the week. As much as I love the movies and the product, their customer service is easily what makes them the best DVD company.
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TrixRabbi posted:As much as I love the movies and the product, their customer service is easily what makes them the best DVD company. I'm not sure if I've mentioned this here before or not, but I had my basement flooded a couple years back. It was about 8 months afterwards that I thought to email Criterion to see how much it would cost me to buy just the cases & booklets. The next day I got a reply, saying not to worry, they'll send the 5-6 movie cases & booklets out to me no problem. Zero charge at all including the expedited shipping out to Canada - and this included the already OOP Third Man bluray. I can't say enough good things about this company, and I'm sure they'd have zero issue replacing your F&A set.
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Criterion's customer service is seriously wonderful. The mail carrier for my building recently changed from one who had common sense to one who is seriously terrible. She left a package from them in front of my door (I live in a large apartment building) and somebody stole it. I emailed their customer service on the offchance they'd replace it and not only did they do so, they saw I live in NYC and resent the items (to my work address this time, I obviously don't trust my current mail carrier anymore) direct from their offices so I'd get them quicker. I hope the kids who stole my box like Anthony Asquith since that's the stuff I had ordered 
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robix smash posted:I remember a warning from last year that even though some of the later November titles were initially marked down (Rushmore in particular, which came out the day after the sale ended), they didn't honor the mistake and charged people the full amount. So be careful with preorders if they're marked down. Be careful with box sets too, because B&N shipped my Fanny & Alexander in a thin plastic mailer instead of a box and the coverbox got all dinged up. I ordered a few things that were accidentally marked down for the first few hours of the last November sale (Rushmore, Belle de Jour (which released in January), and one other I can't remember) and I was charged the sale price correctly. Also, I had an Eclipse set damaged in shipping from BN, so I found that title in a local store and went and traded it in for the undamaged set. BN needs to learn how to package things if they don't want to eat the cost of replacing them. As long as you have the packaging slip and the product it shouldn't be a problem at all. I probably wouldn't order just a box set anymore. In the most recent sale I ordered a few box sets on one order (when the b2g1 free stacked) and it all came together in a sturdy box.
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leokitty posted:I hope the kids who stole my box like Anthony Asquith since that's the stuff I had ordered "Awwright, free movies!" [unwrap] "...'Jeanne Deal-man'?"
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I've gotten free cases from them before too, and have gotten check up emails from them as well to make sure everything came properly. The F&A box isn't damaged enough to bother with it really.zeroordie posted:I ordered a few things that were accidentally marked down for the first few hours of the last November sale (Rushmore, Belle de Jour (which released in January), and one other I can't remember) and I was charged the sale price correctly. Got my copy of Tenenbaums in the mail today. 
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I'm glad to hear they're good like this. I bought a used copy of the Aki Kaurismaki Proletariat Trilogy online a few months ago and when it arrived, it was in pretty rough shape: no slipcase and the copy of Match Factory Girl didn't work (it looks like it'd been stored underwater). But since the rest of the set is fine, I don't really want to buy another copy of the set, so I figured I was out of luck. I'll send them an email and see if I can get a new slipcase.
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Joe Der Maus posted:Even though I love me some Godard, I don't really like Weekend. I was planning on buying it anyway, becuase I find that if I don't like the movie, Criterion's extras are worth the cost, but this release has so few, that it doesn't seem worth it. I wish they'd release Bande a Part... Weekend is definitely one of my least favorite Godards though. Down there with like, les carabiniers and tout va bien. I'd say it's my favorite of my least favorites however.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:I wish they'd release Bande a Part...
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Cacator posted:You're in luck! http://www.criterion.com/films/291-band-of-outsiders I meant on blu, but I also thought the DVD was out of print? Guess not!
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Criterion Cast just posted a link to this on Twitter: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-20/merchant-ivory-sues-janus-films-over-movie-distributionquote:Merchant Ivory Productions Ltd., the maker of films such as “A Room With a View,” accused movie distributor Janus Films LLC OF infringing copyrights by distributing films after their licensing deals expired. Not sure what this means really in the long run but I guess you might want to grab Howard's End if you were considering the purchase?
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Geez, they should be happy anyone would care to make the Merchant Ivory films available.
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Hi everyone! I'm back from (deserved) probation and ready to continue discussing the notion of a "flop" (albeit more civilly). Origami Dali posted:Like it or not, that is the popular consensus. I'm not saying that it's therefore ipso facto valid, but Criterion is a company that prides itself on being comprehensive. To treat this consensus as some aberration of oversimplified history that bears no mention is to compromise the analysis. And I do think it's a view that holds some validity (and I never said that the film holds sole responsibility, though I get the impression that you believe that I have). But as you said yourself, any theories about the end of the era are speculative. I think the history bears evidence that the film contributed to the downfall of the auteur model in American cinema and you, apparently, don't. There really isn't much else to say. Personally I tend to prefer a Jeanine Basinger/Thomas Schatz producer-oriented approach to an auteur approach, so I don't put much faith in auteurism anyway. But when the press overwhelms the actual film, consensus is always an aberration of oversimplified history. Ishtar is a perfect example. Morocco location shooting only happened because Coca-Cola had money there it couldn't repatriate, and lots of its bad press came from its own studio, thanks to David Puttnam, Guy McElwaine's replacement as head of production. I guess I don't know what you're hoping for here, and where the line between "I don't like the film" and "opinion A and B" is, since you keep switching back and forth with abandon.
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On a whim I watched Black Lizard on the Criterion Hulu channel, and man was it an enjoyably campy romp. Anyone know if there's rumors of a disc release?
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Here comes Brazil, apparently.
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Ah, poo poo. I just bought the DVD about a year ago. The 25th anniverary came and went and then Universal put out their own Blu-ray version and Criterion stayed silent the whole time so I figured it wasn't going to happen.
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I would just assume that Criterion is going to get around to releasing a bluray of every Universal property they have the rights to.
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What's the word on current Wes Anderson movies? The existing Fantastic Mr. Fox blu-ray is fine, but I'm curious as to whether or not it and Moonrise Kingdom will get Criterion releases. I was shocked when Darjeeling Limited did, but then again it never got a blu-ray release at all from Fox Searchlight.
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I usually hold off on buying any Wes Anderson movies because Criterion loves him enough that I figure they'll eventually get around to it..
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 The going criterionforum theory is Koyaanisqatsi/Powaqqatsi/Naqoyqatsi (caught-C trilogy, geddit?).
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While that is almost certainly correct, I was really hoping for a triple whammy of Straw Dogs, A Man Escaped, and something else.
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kaujot posted:While that is almost certainly correct, I was really hoping for a triple whammy of Straw Dogs, A Man Escaped, and something else. For what it's worth, A Man Escaped is as certain as anything they haven't announced yet, though who knows when.
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RichterIX posted:What's the word on current Wes Anderson movies? The existing Fantastic Mr. Fox blu-ray is fine, but I'm curious as to whether or not it and Moonrise Kingdom will get Criterion releases. I was shocked when Darjeeling Limited did, but then again it never got a blu-ray release at all from Fox Searchlight. Have they even released any animated films ever? (other than like, Stan Brakhage, or something).
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Fag Boy Jim posted:Have they even released any animated films ever? (other than like, Stan Brakhage, or something). Akira. On Laserdisc.
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STEVIE B 4EVA posted:
*fistpump* I don't usually actively anticipate extras on discs but boy howdy I hope they deliver here.
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This may not be the best place to post this, but would anyone consider trading a blu-ray? I picked up the La Jetée / Sans Soleil set on a whim when trading in a bunch of old DVDs and I enjoyed them but would probably rather have something else in my permanent collection. I'm open minded to almost anything, but already own these: Antichrist, Chungking Express, Dazed & Confused, Fish Tank, Gomorrah, The Great Dictator, Mystery Train, Paris, Texas, Rushmore, & The Thin Red Line.
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