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This movie sucks. I went in expecting a cheesy movie, what I got was a gorefest typical of sequels. This is the only movie I've ever seen that features children, babies, and pregnant women getting gored. Besides all the cliched lines and pointless plot about half the film is watching a predator put widgets on his suit. I might have at least laughed at the horrid waste this movie was but killing children and such is disgusting and I'm surprised they put that in a movie. Should be 0/5 1/5
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My main thought coming out of this movie was that "Jesus, at least it was better than the first one." And I think that is going to be a lot of the thoughts of people coming out of this movie who saw the first one. I didn't so much mind the children/babies getting killed as it wasn't pointless (to me), it showed that in that type of situation, the children would be just as much at risk as anyone else. I did think that the chick getting most of the way naked was EXTREMELY pointless (if not hot), and was a bit annoyed by it (despite the fact that she was indeed, smoking hot). I was also really, really glad to see the predator moving like a predator should (instead of WWF players in predator suits). The way the predators moved in the first one was a bit insulting to fans of the franchise IMHO. The Pred-alien I'm a bit torn on. I don't so much have a problem with it existing, but the fact that it implanted embryos by mouthing the pregnant lady was a new twist on the alien franchise, and I'm not sure that I like it. Because the one thing that has always been (well, since the second one anyway) is that without a queen, there is no new eggs and thus no new aliens The main complaint that I had about this movie is one that there's really no way around - the fact that the story is about the humans and their survival during the fight between the aliens and predator. Rather than the story we WANT to see which is the story of the aliens fighting the predator. But there's not really a way to get around that without making a boring movie without any dialogue. Overall though, I have to admit that I had a good time. I'd say 3/5. The acting was bad, but not horrible. The effects were pretty cool, and the different creatures seemed to act in such a way that we expect them to do so. The one thought I will say however, is why was there only ONE predator sent instead of a full hunting party?
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I just got back from seeing AvP2 and I was very surprised by how much I liked it. Basically, they got changed everything I didn't like about AvP and made it perfect. If you go in expecting a lot of character development or great acting like in No Country for Old Men, you will be disappointed. There was just enough so you didn't notice it. In my opinion, an AvP movie needs the following: 1. Violence, lots and lots of violence: Definite check, probably the most violent out of either sequel. 2. Great one liners: Check, the audience was laughing half the movie from lines like, "But, the government doesn't lie!" and, "There are no monsters, baby, look." (ensuing hilarity as father is eaten) 3. Cursing and last stand one liners: Meh, the didn't have the immortal line from the first Predator movie. 4. Lots of fight scenes between the Predator: (None of this more than one Predator poo poo, these guys go it alone) Definite check, the Predator is not like the wimps from the first one. Anyway. I got everything I wanted out of it. 5/5
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Dec 28, 2007 03:57
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A lot of characters and scenes were ripped directly from the original movies: the very stylized way in which the Predator takes his helmet off is clearly from Predator, the female soldier is obviously a Ripley double, and with lines like "Get to tha coppa!" it was hard not to feel as though the movie was openly mocking the films the franchise is based on. The script was a piece of garbage, the acting was atrocious, the creature work in particular wouldn't have gotten good reviews in 1977, let alone 2007, and the cinematic direction was below what I would expect from a 15-year-old kid. Honestly, a pair of chestbursters popping out of a pregnant woman's abdomen? With a clearly visible fetus in the hole? There's a difference between shock violence and a complete lack of tact. I went into the empty theater with a group of friends who shared my expectations of a lovely movie we could all laugh at. We were not disappointed; by the time AVP:R was finished, we all agreed that it was one of the worst movies we had ever seen. You should only consider going to this movie if you are looking to laugh at it. 1/5.
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Dec 28, 2007 06:27
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I kind of liked the film, even with all the gore. But the massive amount of slip-ups is a real turn down. Also, from the middle of the movie it is more like Resident Evil 2 than AvP.
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I just got back from seeing it and all points I wanted to make have been already. I came out thinking, "Wait... I wasn't supposed to like that." Almost all aspects of each race held true to their history except the pregnant woman part. I can understand wanting to illustrate that not even children and helpless women are safe is fine but the fact that the PredAlien implanted eggs makes ZERO sense. Also, does anyone know why the Predetor was implanted in the first place and why the Predators in the ship failed to realize/contain this?
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Dec 29, 2007 09:30
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Inzombiac posted:
The Pred was implanted because that is the facehugger's purpose. To spread the species. The Predators on the ship failed to realize this because Paul WS Anderson is a human being and Fox wanted to rip apart its once-awesome franchises again (and possibly again!) to make a quick dozen or two million profit on the steaming pile of garbage that young morons will eat up. Real fans of either/both franchises then shake our heads in disgust that Fox decided to go this route with a hack of a writer/director, instead of the Cameron/Scott collaboration that was supposedly in talks. Even if they didn't go that route, they could've at least made a decent movie, not a piece of a garbage like the first one, and then this one. Acting was horrible, story was worse, and it had no redeeming qualities that I could find. I wouldn't recommend any fan of either franchise to go see this piece of poo poo, and any fan of the "extended universe" like the novels, graphic novels, or even videogames already knows better. Anyone with specific knowledge of the Predator culture or way of life will hate this movie that much more. Plus the whole "Aliens on Earth" thing. Ugh. 0/5 EDIT: If you think what Duxwig or TheChad said about this movie, is true about the first movie, then this is the movie for you - you are the reason why Hollywood makes movies like this... when they could easily have made a good, well-written, faithful to the canon of the franchises version for just as much money. If you like mindless gore fests (that poo poo on existing franchises), no matter how horribly written, then this is the movie for you. For everyone else I'd recommend getting the Alien Quadrilogy and watching the special features, or popping in that Aliens Special Edition DVD and re-watching that for your Alien fix. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Dec 29, 2007 |
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Dec 29, 2007 09:55
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discussion!!!!!
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Dec 29, 2007 12:52
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don't reply to discussion even if the person is a huge rear end as with above
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I went in expecting an hour and a half of stilted dialogue, obnoxious attempts at teenage drama, and a plotline that barely deserves the name. I got that, and oh so much more. This was loving garbage. I have so much more respect for AVP1 now. The cinematography was terrible. The Alien v. Predator battles, the only alleged redeeming quality of the film, were uninteresting for the most part. Granted, there were some cool scenes, but the film was so dark, and the camera so shakey, that I could barely tell what the hell was going on. Yes, they're fighting. Now get rid of the rain and smoke and rubble and zoom the gently caress out. Transformers all over again. I don't remember a single character name. Not one. There's like, 3 white guys that all look like Hayden Christenson (and studied under him apparently) who have all the depth and characterization of Chuck E. Cheese. Then there's the Designated Hot Chick, whos rear end the camera focuses on so blatantly it's comical. I guess there's no word in Incompetent-ese for subtle. Pacing was a mess. The first 10 minutes are like a trailer. The battle on the ship, something I had actual interest in, was handled like the opening of a video game. And the ending made no sense, but that may just be my fault. I haven't seen Alien in forever, if that's what it was supposed to reference. gently caress, I don't care. .5/5
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Inzombiac posted:I meant, why was the Predator implanted to begin with? How did it come about? Why didn't the Predator kill himself with a shot to the stomach when he woke up? Bored posted:There's no real reason for it - its a loving plot hole. It's not a plot hole. In AVP1, one of the predators gets too excited about his first kill and gets face-hugged. Later, he is the same predator who survives the longest and tries to stop the alien queen. Clearly his priority at this point is to fight the queen (rather than shoot himself in the stomach with a weapon he doesn't have). He dies in the fight and is taken into the predator ship. This is when the predalien hatches and the second movie begins. You could still argue that the predators should be smart enough to check the body for an alien infestation, but, with there being no dialogue, it's impossible to know what the predators are thinking most of the time. Which is how it should be since they are also aliens and their logic doesn't have to be clear to a human. I suppose, it is a little bit of a blanket explanation to cover all plot holes like this, so I wouldn't go so far as to use it to come up with an actual reason for why they didn't search the body. For example, I could say "hey if you read, like, the novels, a body of a slain predator warrior is untouchable", but that would be lame bs. It would be coming up with a human explanation for something that happened in a society of some crazy monstrosities from another planet. That's ridiculous. In fact, I actually liked the beginning of AVP2, because of this reason. The predator who is killed first by the predalien was in the middle of doing some weird sci-fi poo poo with those facehuggers and stuff.There was no way to tell what it was though and therefore actually felt kind of authentic. (Maybe he was in fact about to autopsy the body and he was just too late with it? ) For the same reason, the incubation time isn't really an issue, too. So, it takes longer with one type of organism than with another. Inconsistent between the movies? Fine, maybe there is actually a huge variance in the incubation time in each individual case. But... that thing with the predalien shooting more predaliens with its mouth... that I think was going too far. Of course, it's very important for the plot, because otherwise the bombing of the city would be pointless, but... If that's the only reason, it's inexcusable. quote:the depth and characterization of Chuck E. Cheese anyway, i give this a 4/5. (it would be a 3/5, but i am partial to Wolf). Nesetril fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Dec 30, 2007 |
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Not even really low expectations could prepare me for this film. The hardcore sci fi geeks will be hurt hardest by seeing their generation defining monster going after Archie, Betty and Veronica at the Pizza Shoppe (this is an approximation of what actually happens in the movie). "I just went for the cool violence and special effects" doesn't hold water as a defense because the action and effects were dark, muddy and crappy. The gore was subpar. I defended the crapness of the first AvsP saying that it was more or less the same thing as the comic book on which it was based (a predator and chick fight off the aliens together). Go see this thing if you must be remember, you'll feel either appalled, repelled or really, really angry. 1/5 (it would have gotten zero but there were a couple of spaceships in the movie and those are cool)
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Dec 30, 2007 06:19
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I went in expecting a terrible terrible movie, and it was somehow worse. I'm fairly certain the directors have never watched any of the other Alien or Pred movies. The aliens didnt act like aliens, the predatoR didnt act like a predator and the humans didnt act like they had an IQ over 40 or a personality (but they all had some lame back story that made no point?). Future weapons bounce off aliens skulls and M4's kill them in one burst. There was some bad gore, but aliens and pred arent about gore, and the camera work was bad and dark. Because they also invented things for this movie (pred planet / weapons / predalien )that sucked, id like to vote below zero if i could. I give it a +1 because of the pred skinning, but then i have to take it away because i still cant see why they just didnt drive out of town. Because the guy trying to kill everyone says they shouldn't? comeon. Overall: 0/5
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Nope. 0/5 High-Water Marx fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Dec 30, 2007 20:52
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The entire movie was a fetid pile of poo poo. The opening sequence of the movie served as a lame tie-in to the first movie, which served no purpose - none of the characters from the first film return, so why bother pretending the first movie even exists? As other posters have already stated, the main problem with the film is the infusion of the human drama in the plot of the story. Who the gently caress cares about "Older Brother Who Just Got Out of Prison" or "Younger Brother Who Delivers Pizza." We don't even get to see "Hot Young Slut Who Used to Date Pizza Boy" get naked! When I pay money for a film titled Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, I expect to see 90 minutes of Predators hunting and killing Aliens. I do not want to see a poorly written character drama with empty characters and wooden dialogue. I don't care about those characters, so watching them die resonates no emotional impact - except relief at the fact that another lovely, no-name actor is dead. I don't want to sound like a dick, but anyone who even thinks about rating this movie anything higher than a "1" is a tremendous human being. Note the names of all posters who gave this movie a "5" and promptly disregard any review they post in this forum. I hate to say this, but if Alien vs. Predator: Requiem is the best purported "fans" of the franchise can do, then I never want to see another AvP movie in theaters. Period. It would take nothing short of James Cameron, Ridley Scott, or David Cronenberg directing an AvP film to get me to shell out money for another movie in the franchise. 1/5
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There were no redeeming qualities in this movie. The plot was a horrible mess (with all the inconsistencies and silliness mentioned in this thread). The dialogue was sub-par for a porn. ("I couldn't decide which bathing suit to wear!") The Pred-alien was less interesting than the stupid Hum-alien from Alien 4. The special effects were drowned in darkness (either on purpose or by simple cinematic incompetence). And even the "edgy" violence (oh boy, groundbreaking kid death) was cut short like it was being graphically represented by an eight year old full of ritalin telling a story with his action figures. Insultingly bad. 1/5
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AvP2 is better than the first, but that’s about it, and no real redeeming qualities like the last Resident Evil movie that is attempting the art of painfully bad cinema. The more I see predators and aliens the more stupid or lame they are becoming. It’s all because of the way the franchise is playing the spin offs, and they are playing it way too safe. It’s not the baby/kid gore nor the showdown fights. It’s the way we are not at all surprise or suspense at the screen for what the filmmakers are setting out to do. This movie also implemented bad plot points from B movie teen horror elements (and zombie movies) that didn’t need to be in this movie, if that cancer was removed maybe the movie could have been more enjoyable. So if there is another movie and I mean “if” do not set the battlefield on earth, never ever again, and in fact set it 200+ years into the future on another planet because we are done with the modern world, for me when I see back these two movies it was a cop out for cutting corners with design and plot. Hell the video games plots where more interesting than these movies tried to do, and that’s bad. 1.5/5
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I went into this movie looking forward to a retarded gore-fest, and was disappointed. The action stinks. The fights are clumsily staged and awkwardly executed. And everything is filmed in the dark with rain and smoke, using lots of jumpy cuts and shaky cam to try to hide how lovely everything is. The special effects and gore are average at best, but since everything is shot in the dark you can't really tell. Too much of the movie is taken up by small-town teen drama, which is terribly written and acted. None of the characters are likable or interesting or funny. Large stretches of the movie are crushingly boring and annoying and have nothing to do with monsters eating people or blowing poo poo up. Oh, and the acting sucks and the plot makes no sense, but that goes without saying. And it isn't even lovely in a "so bad it's good" way, it's just loving annoying and boring. It gets 1 star for making me laugh when a Predator stuck a bimbo to the wall with a frisbee of death and 1/2 a star for the "the government wouldn't lie to us!" gag. And I'm pretty sure you can see those on Youtube for free. 1.5/5.
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This movie didn't "suck," as it was miles ahead of AVP but it was still hokey in a few areas. Of course, so was the original Predator and that's a "cult classic." This movie is brutal as neither the Aliens or Predator have any regard for humans, regardless of age or gender, which is how I guess they should be. The only thing I didn't like, actually, was the Predalien that laid a litter of eggs in a pregnant woman. I just thought that was dumb as poo poo. The rest of the movie was certainly passable and worth watching for a mindless action flick. Also: the "GET TO THE CHOPPER!" scene made me laugh and had to be a homage to the original Predator movie. If you liked Predator and you like both Alien and Aliens but hated the first Alien Vs. Predator, I think you'll like this movie. Definitely not as good as the first two Alien movies but it's just a campy action flick with some bad acting thrown in. I would say... 2.5 or 3 // 5.
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Honestly, I don't think this was original supposed to be an alien vs predator movie. It's like they took a script for your standard "creature attacks small town" movie, and then later decided "hey, we've got this script lying around, let's throw in aliens and predators and make a movie." So if you want a "monster" movie, this is it. If you want an Alien or Predator universe movie, you're kind of out of luck. Elysium fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 3, 2008 |
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Sylink posted:This movie sucks. Try "The Hills Have Eyes". Oh yeah, though, this movie was absolutely horrible. The friend I went with gave me biological profiles of aliens and predators as we stood in line, and i think even he had totally lost interest at the end. come to think of it, i have no recollection of how it ended. that's usually how i decide if the movie was poo poo or not; how much of it stays with me two weeks later. So, yeah, it was poo poo: 1/5
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Awefull movie not worthy of either franchise.
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loving terrible. Worse than AVP1, and I didn't think that was possible. The worst thing about it is that I can't even single out particular things as being the key flaws. The whole movie was just boring, dull, unimaginative, unconvincing.. gently caress, I just didn't care about anything that happened. At all. 1/5 If I could vote -5/5 I would
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Fairly bad movie. I would put it equally as bad a AvP1, but for different reasons. AvP1 set up a few characters and did a mediocre job of letting us get to know them and their motivations. It then placed everyone including the title critters into a terrible setting with a ludicrous plot, and then did so with minimal violence which just made no sense for a movie starring aliens and predators. AvP2 fixes the violence issue, and with that there's no qualms. Unfortunately it sucked even harder in about every other category. The characters are absolutely worthless and there is no reason to spend time with any of them. I am not here to watch Dawson's Creek unless a chestburster pops out while pizzaboy is fondling his girlfriend's boob. There is no reason to set this story on Earth. There is no reason to set this story in the present. This is not rocket science and both franchises are now pretty much done (confirming James Cameron's prediction). If you're going to have a story like this, it better well be focused on the Predator hunting down his prey with an intelligent predalien thwarting him. It's even worse when due to how the movie ends, none of the events that happened matter. I could almost forgive the utterly boring plot if we at least got a lot of... you know, aliens and predators. We do get a fair amount of them. But, oh! You can't see any of it because every monster scene is lit with one light to the side, so all you can see is glistening. I honestly couldn't tell what was going on in most of the action scenes. Failure. There was a grand total of one interesting and cool moment, when the father looks out the window and gets a split second of a view of teeth. Can't really recommend it, even for fans. 1.5/5
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Horrible acting, poor plot, unnecessary amount of violence (pregnant woman getting her stomach ripped open. Wtf?). In the original alien movies, the xenomorphs were actually scary, mysterious creatures. Now they're no scarier then glorified cockroaches. 0/5
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I did not see this movie in a theater, because I saw the first one in a theater and wished I hadn't. AvP: R suffers from many minor problems, as well as the same major problem as the first one: The money shots are blown. When an Alien is fighting a Predator I want to see both combatants clearly -at least for some of the fight. I want to be able to detect differences in their weaponry (natural or otherwise), tactics, and advantages/disadvantages in their physical makeup -including the numbers and reproductive rate of the aliens. All the fight sequences were dark, jumpy, and fast. In the first AvP I really, honestly think that some of the A v. P fights are literally Alien props and Predator props thrown in a tumble dryer and filmed. This one was not much better. You never clearly see an Alien or a Predator for more than a second throughout the whole movie. I could seriously give no poo poo at all about the plot or the characters if there were some good, clear, special effects and well-choreographed fights. Also what was the also the worst was the girl I watched it with constantly asking countless variations of: "Is that an Alien?", "Is that a predator?", "Is that a baby Alien? Does it have Predator genes too?", "Is that the Alien/Predator hybrid?", "Didn't you say it was the face-sucker babies that laid eggs in people? Why is that thing doing it? Is it a Alien/Predator hybrid baby half facesucker/half queen Alien?", "Isn't the blood the same color, is it acid too?"... and me not knowing the answer. 1/5, generously. I liked the "plot" of the first one better. Of the entire combined franchise I would go with: 1. Alien Predator 2 Predator Aliens Alien 3 AvP AvP: R.
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'twas a terrible, terrible movie, which made AVP1 look like a great prequel. Worthless action, worthless writing, worthless visuals, worthless acting. -1/5
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