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Meow Meow Meow posted:
first question. how do I tan the pig hide
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I outsourced that part.
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*taking notes* fascinating
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Just Winging It posted:I didn't know Bridge City sponsored youtubers, those guys don't seem to touch anything that doesn't come in a systainer or requires physical effort lmao Video content: Felder/Hammer gave me this sliding table saw to try out, now I don’t need a shooting board! There is a ton of manual skill in woodworking, and especially hand tool woodworking, that really can only be gained by time on the tools. I think the appeal of fancy tools is that they’ll let you skip that, but they won’t. Someone with 20 years experience can use a bad chisel more effectively than someone with little experience can use a good one. They’ll also know the difference between a bad chisel and a good one, and be able to turn a bad one into a good one. That being said, if you’re teaching yourself from books or YouTube or whatever, buying a known good tool can be super helpful to know what the tool should feel like and how it should work when it’s working well. This has come up itt before and it never occurred to me as a problem, but most people doing woodworking at home are self taught, and even the best video can’t show you what a well set-up plane or properly ground skew should feel like. Being able to have someone who knows what they’re doing hand you a tool that is set up so you can get your eBay plane to feel like that one, or better yet someone looks at your eBay plane and says ‘oh yeah that’s sharp but you’ve got the chip breaker waaaay too far back and that’s causing all your problems’ is really huge. I’ve never taken a woodworking class, but it seems like that kind of stuff would be as useful as whatever the class was actually nominally about. Anyway THE BEST PLANE that everyone should have is a good metal block plane. If I grab a plane (which isn’t as often as I’d like) it’s probably that one. It’s weird because they are kinda esoteric but my hollows and rounds are probably the 2nd most common planes I use. I don’t do a ton of hand plane work because I have machines and sandpaper for that but hollows and rounds solve a lot of problems in my work that aren’t easily, quickly, or cheaply solved any other other way.
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I have to plane all my wood by hand because I don't have space for any machines. Actually I just got a thickness planer because I can fit it under my bench. Now I can just use the hand planes to flatten one side and one edge and use the machine for the other two (unless the board is too wide in which case I guess I'll have to hand plane the opposite edge too).
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I have an all wood near 3ft jointer plane and its great. Dialing in the blade depth and angle is a bit fussy and its annoying you have to typically do it more than once per session in use but i also get very fast at dialing it in if i use it more often. At this point, I’d say the best tool is the one that you’re going to actually just sit down and use right away .
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For the past ~5 years I've been accumulating a collection of inexpensively-bought used metal and wood planes of every size and mostly of OK to goodish condition. Fixing them up, using them, figuring out that what I had "fixed up" wasn't quite right, and re-doing things has been an ongoing learning process. It has required a great deal of patience and a high level of attention to detail. But I didn't really figure out how to make a very large piece of wood flat until I'd tried to do it three or four times. Most recently I bought a big plank of alder, cut it up, and edge jointed it, and then hand-planed about a quarter inch off of it trying to get it flat in all dimensions after it twisted and warped to hell and back. I really had to learn how to use my radiused fore plane and then the try plane and that involved getting them sharp and keeping them sharp, learning how to plane across the grain, marking the wrong corners and making it worse for a while before realizing my mistake and going across the other two corners with a lot more effort to fix that, etc. Part of this process has revealed that I did not adequately flatten and sharpen about half the plane irons I thought I'd fixed up. I think 100% of the used planes I've bought have needed significant work on the irons not just to sharpen them but to get them flat first, profile the edge properly, and then get actually satisfactory results with the edge because those other two steps were done right first. I hadn't exactly done those things wrong before, I'd watched videos and followed instructions, I had just stopped at what I thought was "good enough" because it was taking a ton of effort and mess and my hands hurt and arms were tired. When what I really needed was to be brave and use a grinder, take a significant bit of the iron off, or even in one case just give up on a completely hosed iron and replace it. The completely hosed iron got hosed by the instructor of the one woodworking class I've taken. It was out of true (bent, basically) and he took it over to the belt sander and tried to fix it by hand and made it 10x worse and then told me it was good now. Dude was a cool instructor, it was a good class, and I genuinely didn't know any better, but I've been fighting with that one #4 plane ever since and I finally realized it's because the back is just unrecoverably non-flat. Anyway. None of this should discourage anyone from getting an old plane. But I think it speaks to what others are saying that just getting a lot of experience with hand tools is necessary to really start to get a muscle-memory feel for them and get great results, and spending lots of money on a very fancy expensive one doesn't remove that requirement. I personally find working with these old tools very rewarding and I don't want to overstate the issues, I've made several projects successfully with these planes over the last few years even with them not functioning at 100%. But now I'm working in non-straight-grained walnut making curved pieces and doing joinery where precision and flatness and not digging in or chattering and being true across the width of the iron etc. etc. are all critical to this project and it's actually working and there's no way I could have done this 4 years ago.
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HappyHippo posted:Never done this before. One down, 3 to go: Update on this, I added face frames and installed them:  Next up: making a counter of some sort, then doors for the lower cupboards. I wasn't expecting the floor to be level or square, I know that never happens, but I wasn't expecting it to be that unlevel. Like a 2" drop from the corner to the last cabinet. And the wall has a 1" depression about halfway through that run of cabinets. The shims I had were insufficient, I was grabbing scrap wood to make more. But overall not too difficult and I'm pretty happy with the result.
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HappyHippo posted:Update on this, I added face frames and installed them: Yeah nice work, those came out good
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what's the smallest usable surface planer? i live in a smallish apartment w a big balcony so something portable and storable. this may not exist at all, I have been using all hand planes for a few years now but I'm curious if anyone knows of some secret item I have not seen
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the size at which you find yourself picking it up, flipping it over, and using it as a powered hand planer
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so a powered hand planer?? why do you post like this
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he's a wizard of goatse
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I assume you're aware of portable jointers and planers so the question is totally pointless until you figure out what you actually want, but sure I won't make the mistake of bothering respond to you again, pal
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yeah I know they exist I was asking for recommendations for particularly small ones people in this thread like. did you read the part about "things I missed?" why are you so aggro it's woodworking chill out
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Apr 26, 2024 00:42
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Isn’t the cliche that woodworkers are quiet congenial types lol. Hobby subforum seems like a place where pissy posts are unnecessary 
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Y’all be nice to each other please. Post about your favorite posts, not poster.
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I’m rather fond of a stop chamfered post with a nice lambs tongue
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