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Aesop Poprock posted:MassRafTer, do you have any knowledge as to whether wwe or any other organization has ever used foley workers or insert sounds when it comes to people hitting or slamming each other. I’m not talking about crowd sounds, just stuff like strikes and kicks. I have a friend who is claiming the audio isn’t 100% original when it comes to hits and punches and it’s repeated for multiple strikes I think your friend took the Cheap Seats skit with H. Jon Benjamin seriously
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Aesop Poprock posted:MassRafTer, do you have any knowledge as to whether wwe or any other organization has ever used foley workers or insert sounds when it comes to people hitting or slamming each other. I’m not talking about crowd sounds, just stuff like strikes and kicks. I have a friend who is claiming the audio isn’t 100% original when it comes to hits and punches and it’s repeated for multiple strikes Your friend is dumb. The ring is set up for the workers to create their own sound effects, which they learn among other basics in school after the trainer is satisfied that they've taken a few thousand back bumps in a row. Doing a foot stamp with every strike you do or slapping your thigh when kicking someone in the face is wrestling 101.
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May 22, 2018 10:36
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Yeah if you go to a live show of any description, the rings are loud as hell. That's one reason why people use chops and stuff too, makes a much bigger noise than a punch.
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May 22, 2018 10:44
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Yeah, get your dumb friend like a third row ticket and it should cure him of his stupidity. Or at least that particular bit of it.
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May 22, 2018 12:18
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Lucha Underground is the o my company with the means or desire to really do that and they do. The training rooms at the Temple are very efficient because everyone has learned to throw kicks and chops that land in identically sounding ways.
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May 22, 2018 13:18
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I feel like I've seen some dumb short lived company add foley but nothing springs to mind. WSX must've for certain things but I haven't watched it in a few years so I don't remember.
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May 22, 2018 15:23
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Lucha Underground is the o my company with the means or desire to really do that and they do. The training rooms at the Temple are very efficient because everyone has learned to throw kicks and chops that land in identically sounding ways. Haha yeah LU does a lot of post production sound editing. Although Pentagon's chops don't need any sweetening, they sound like a gunshot
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Yeah, LU is the only company I can think of who's regularly sweetening the audio in post production. I guess impact might of done it at some time but they seem too incompetent to do that. A live show? No way they're doing additional foley work.
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May 22, 2018 15:46
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While the ring is indeed loud, I believe they also mic it to amplify the noise a bit.
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MrBling posted:Chinsuke Nakamura is great. Pro click
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Charles Gnarwin posted:Lucha Underground is the o my company with the means or desire to really do that and they do. The training rooms at the Temple are very efficient because everyone has learned to throw kicks and chops that land in identically sounding ways. I like how everyone who gets thrown into the post makes the exact same "thunk" noise even when their head misses it by 6 inches
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May 22, 2018 22:11
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Does the Mountie's shock stick count?
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Davros1 posted:Even before that. The Midnight Express was a three man squad, ala The Fabulous Freebirds, with Dennis Condrey, Randy Rose, and Norvell Austin. Then it became Condrey and Eaton, then Eaton and Lane, and then Condrey and Rose reunited in the AWA, bringing Paul Heyman into the spotlight. And then adding to this, The Andersons, with Gene and Lars, then bringing in new members like Ole and Arn. The Four Horsemen obviously too
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May 23, 2018 00:50
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Has Okada ever done a straightjacket suplex into a bridging pin, then when the opponent kicks out, held on and transitioned into a Rainmaker? That seems so obvious I imagine he has to have done it at least once. I know Ibushi once kept the wrists held after a suplex and transitioned it into a Kamigoye.
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May 23, 2018 02:10
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dont even fink about it posted:Your friend is dumb. The ring is set up for the workers to create their own sound effects, which they learn among other basics in school after the trainer is satisfied that they've taken a few thousand back bumps in a row. Doing a foot stamp with every strike you do or slapping your thigh when kicking someone in the face is wrestling 101. Yeah I explained that to him and told him I’ve been to a bunch of live shows and he was still claiming they pumped in foley at every live event and that’s what I was hearing because he used to be a sound guy for other types of live shows. To his credit he accepted the responses here though even though he’s a stubborn rear end
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The last couple wwe shows I've been to in person, one a tv and one a house show i think, the ring mics were turned up loud enough that it was actively annoying and distracting for the first match or so until i got used to it. But yeah, there's no way they do live Foley work for wrestling. Why would they when wrestlers are dumb and self destructive enough to just be their own effects?
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Aesop Poprock posted:Yeah I explained that to him and told him I’ve been to a bunch of live shows and he was still claiming they pumped in foley at every live event and that’s what I was hearing because he used to be a sound guy for other types of live shows. To his credit he accepted the responses here though even though he’s a stubborn rear end Take your friend to a wrestling school seminar to do back bumps for a few hours and he'll get smartened up real quick
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May 23, 2018 04:10
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Hogan may have slammed Andre but I'm the guy who made you hear it. Dropped a log full of old tire irons and steel wool on a section of The Tomb of the Unknown Solider I had brought in for the occasion.
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May 23, 2018 05:26
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Does the Mountie's shock stick count? On that note, what about TNA's electrified cage? It went BZZBZZBZZ BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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May 23, 2018 09:16
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Recently read a story about an electrified cage match WCW did at a Halloween Havoc. One of the Halloween props caught fire, but thanks to some quick thinking from The Great Muta, tragedy was avoided when he quickly extinguished it using his poisoned mist.
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Can someone think of a basic (less than 10 minutes) John Cena match that I can show someone as an example of basic match structure (shine/heat/comeback/finish)? I'm teaching a class and I need to show the basics before we dissect the complexities of good/long matches.
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Cena vs. Cesaro maybe?
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No Irish Need Imply posted:Can someone think of a basic (less than 10 minutes) John Cena match that I can show someone as an example of basic match structure (shine/heat/comeback/finish)? I'm teaching a class and I need to show the basics before we dissect the complexities of good/long matches. Any Hogan match from the 80s. Hogan/Savage from Mania V?
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Davros1 posted:Recently read a story about an electrified cage match WCW did at a Halloween Havoc. One of the Halloween props caught fire, but thanks to some quick thinking from The Great Muta, tragedy was avoided when he quickly extinguished it using his poisoned mist. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bmbv0 Skip to about 5 minutes.
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No Irish Need Imply posted:Can someone think of a basic (less than 10 minutes) John Cena match that I can show someone as an example of basic match structure (shine/heat/comeback/finish)? I'm teaching a class and I need to show the basics before we dissect the complexities of good/long matches. I have no suggestions, I'm just curious as to why it has to be a John Cena match, is the course you are teaching basic thuganomics?
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Whats the best Samoa Joe match? I have a lot of strong opinions about this and wanna see what other people have to say. It's Joe/Necro from IWA MS btw
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im also very partial to joe daniels from...glory by honor 2? it was the last show at The Murph
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I watched Joe vs Punk 2 like 30 Times probably
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Does the Mountie's shock stick count? Ha wow, I forgot about that one. Around the same time they were also dubbing in this really overdone choking noise, usually in Undertaker matches. Just a few years ago they would overdub "ding!" noises whenever the ring bell was used in a match. I feel like it stuck out even more than the early '90s stuff, since obviously they could only do it on taped shows and there's much more live stuff now. e: And of course there's the infamous Smackdown Pop or "hair dryer pop" that was a thing until Smackdown went full-time Live. Minidust fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 24, 2018 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:I watched Joe vs Punk 2 like 30 Times probably I should probably add to this that for a long time I thought low ki vs Bryan Danielson was the best match of all time and I haven’t watched either since the mid 2000s Aesop Poprock fucked around with this message at 06:25 on May 24, 2018 |
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Also early ring of honor had cool stuff going on but could still be cringe as hell. What the gently caress was up with the Christopher Street connection and Xavier as champion?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:How many famous and successful tag teams were "remade" or replaced with other people that also went on to become successful? I remember Cornette's New Midnight Express, and the Legion of Doom but it's Droz instead. Neither of which would be considered successful though. Maybe not exactly what you're asking since they weren't successful with the original members, but the first incarnation of Demolition was Bill Eadie as Ax and Moondog Rex as Smash. Barry Darsow was brought in to take the part of Smash because the crowds recognized Rex.
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May 24, 2018 07:01
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Joe's had so many outstanding matches. Joe/Punk Trilogy Joe/Kobashi (ROH) Joe/Necro Butcher (IWA?) Joe/Bryan Danielson (PWG) Joe/Christopher Daniels/AJ Styles (TNA) He was just one of those guys who could mesh with any style and still make both him and his opponent look good. It's a shame his mystique is gone in WWE but his aggressive promos still make me want to watch every single one of his matches.
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RealFoxy posted:Joe/Kobashi (ROH) God this match is so loving good.
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RealFoxy posted:mystique is gone in WWE
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RealFoxy posted:Joe's had so many outstanding matches. They are fixing joe on smackdown. he's just been fighting everyone. not face. not heel. just joe.
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AkumaHokoru posted:just joe. 
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