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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Mania 30 should have been the series finale of WWE 
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I still hold out the multiples of ten Mania's are a weird portal into another dimension where WWE is booked very differently. We get a glimpse at what seems like some strange exciting new direction for the company, and then reality rushes in and takes it all away, every single time.
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Oct 23, 2018 14:59
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mania 30 directly leading into another godawful kane feud was definitely the point at which i realized oh there is absolutely no chance it will ever be that good again there is no reason whatsoever to invest 200 hours a year on this
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Oct 23, 2018 15:06
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Was Bryan already having neck issues by the time the Kane feud rolled around?
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Oct 23, 2018 15:09
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jesus WEP posted:Was Bryan already having neck issues by the time the Kane feud rolled around? yeah, but even stills there really wasnt a good feud for Bryan at that point, as he beat the top heel and Bray was feuding with Cena, and Punk was gone plus they were clearly gunning for Shield/Evolution for a couple of cycles while Dave was still around, and I cant really fault them for that.
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Oct 23, 2018 15:21
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I cant remember too many more of the specifics other than Bryan was going to do the Kane feud and then wrestle Brock (and lose) at Summerslam Not sure if they would have done Bryan/Batista at MITB or Battleground once the Shield/Evolution angle wrapped, or went back to it if Batista ever came back again.
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Oct 23, 2018 15:25
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exploded mummy posted:yeah, but even stills there really wasnt a good feud for Bryan at that point, as he beat the top heel and Bray was feuding with Cena, and Punk was gone Regardless, instead of a placeholder feud where he proved he was a fighting champion by beating some elevated mid card guy for a month, instead they put him into the Vince McMahon fetish feud where the little guy champion and his friends and loved ones get victimized by a much bigger guy until no one takes them seriously anymore.
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Oct 23, 2018 15:26
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exploded mummy posted:yeah, but even stills there really wasnt a good feud for Bryan at that point, as he beat the top heel and Bray was feuding with Cena, and Punk was gone He could've feuded with Cesaro, who won the first ARMBAR and got Heyman as his manager. Instead, Cesaro did his swing to midcarders while Heyman talked about Lesnar.
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Oct 23, 2018 15:29
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As for dropping the ball post-Mania 20, C***s B****t feuded with Trips for a little while longer, which was pretty good, before feuding with Kane, which was also pretty good (surprisingly), but then got sacrificed at the altar of the WWE mistakingly trying to make young Orton a babyface. On the other side, Eddie lost the WWE Championship to friggin JBL, who retained it forever. I think he still might have it.
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Oct 23, 2018 17:07
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Cactus Bjackt?
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Oct 23, 2018 17:21
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Super No Vacancy posted:Cactus Bjackt? Cocks Bullshit
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Oct 23, 2018 18:38
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Cocks Bullshit That's actually how I read it several times.
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Oct 23, 2018 19:03
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The Kane feud was basically WWE saying “well we have to give you the belt to keep them from hijacking the show, but we don’t have to make you the top of the card.”
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Oct 23, 2018 19:11
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D.N. Nation posted:As for dropping the ball post-Mania 20, C***s B****t feuded with Trips for a little while longer, which was pretty good, before feuding with Kane, which was also pretty good (surprisingly), but then got sacrificed at the altar of the WWE mistakingly trying to make young Orton a babyface. Wasn't there something about Eddie getting really stressed out about how he was drawing as champion?
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Oct 23, 2018 19:14
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VJeff posted:Wasn't there something about Eddie getting really stressed out about how he was drawing as champion? I also remember reading that one of the reasons they put the belt on Orton so quickly is that Vince was pissed about Lesnar leaving and wanted to set a new "Youngest WWE Champion" record to spite him.
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Oct 23, 2018 19:16
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D.N. Nation posted:As for dropping the ball post-Mania 20, C***s B****t feuded with Trips for a little while longer, which was pretty good, before feuding with Kane, which was also pretty good (surprisingly), but then got sacrificed at the altar of the WWE mistakingly trying to make young Orton a babyface. It was probably about time Benoit lost the title, but gently caress, there had to be somebody better than Orton
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Oct 23, 2018 19:48
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Randaconda posted:It was probably about time Benoit lost the title, but gently caress, there had to be somebody better than Orton This is how I feel every time Orton gets the belt.
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Oct 23, 2018 19:51
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What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? There's so many good ones, but my favorite might be dude screaming "KILL YOURSELF!" at Beefcake when he returned and was rambling on about getting divorced.
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Oct 23, 2018 20:09
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Randaconda posted:What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? "Go back to Toronto!" is the gold standard.
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Oct 23, 2018 20:13
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D.N. Nation posted:"Go back to Toronto!" is the gold standard. I thought that was "I HATE YOU BATISTA"
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Oct 23, 2018 20:28
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Randaconda posted:What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? It's a Kane vs Vader match and they spill to the outside and someone yells at Vader "HIT EM WITH YER FAT rear end". Its great
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Oct 23, 2018 20:54
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Randaconda posted:What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? Gleeful Sheamus fan.
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Oct 23, 2018 21:05
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Gleeful Sheamus fan. Jamie Noble really was a bum.
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Oct 23, 2018 21:18
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"My grandmother's a better wrestler than you!" I forget who this was directed at but still a classic.
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Oct 23, 2018 23:14
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Wasn’t there a Big Show match during ECWWE where the crowd was chanting “You can’t wrestle!” and Wight responded with “I don’t have to!”?
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Oct 23, 2018 23:48
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The guy yelling, "This is stupid" during the Morton Downey segment.
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Oct 24, 2018 00:02
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Randaconda posted:What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? I have no interest in Brutus Beefcake whatsoever as a wrestler but after reading about how insanely and gruesomely hosed up he was after that parasailing accident I kind of feel bad for all the other poo poo that got piled on him/how the crowd reacted to him
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Oct 24, 2018 00:08
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Maxwell Lord posted:"My grandmother's a better wrestler than you!"
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Oct 24, 2018 03:25
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Aesop Poprock posted:I have no interest in Brutus Beefcake whatsoever as a wrestler but after reading about how insanely and gruesomely hosed up he was after that parasailing accident I kind of feel bad for all the other poo poo that got piled on him/how the crowd reacted to him Yeah, it's actually pretty surprising he lived, because that was a brutal accident.
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Oct 24, 2018 08:35
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My favourite was a house show in Scotland where someone managed to shout "BATISTA SUCKS DONKEY DICK" so perfectly loud and clear that Batista heard and spent a good minute staring down the guy who shouted it, who blamed his friend sat next to him.
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Oct 24, 2018 09:38
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Said before but it can never be reiterated enough: Batista was too good for us
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Oct 24, 2018 16:26
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Eh, Batista as a regular main-eventer wasn't all that exciting.
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Oct 24, 2018 17:23
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Batista heel turn on was great. Before then he was bland as gently caress.
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Oct 24, 2018 21:19
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Because of the random rudeness and it being more of a novelty from a US audience, I have to go with the ultra-redneck shout of "YOU loving oval office" directed at Kidman when he botched an SSP in WCW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9CLs5YTt0
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Oct 24, 2018 21:27
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what if HBK told Lou Thesz, assuming they were both in their primes, he would never lay down for him? follow up question: how long would it take for HBK to be able to walk again
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Oct 24, 2018 21:46
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I remember an excerpt from Hooker where he said that one of his mentors, refusing to lose to a hot young talent, broke the kid's arm so badly that it was amputated. I don't think Thesz was ever so bloodthirsty, even when he had to shoot on people.
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Oct 24, 2018 21:59
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Randaconda posted:What's your favorite random interjection from a crowd member during a quite moment in a match or promo? There was a Chikara match between the Olsen Twins (comedy heels) and Miyawaki and Yago (stiff Japanese dudes who were like twice their size). With the Olsens quietly waiting in the ring before the Japanese team's intro started up, you could hear one guy in the crowd matter-of-factly tell them, "You guys... might die."
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Oct 24, 2018 22:18
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Randaconda posted:what if HBK told Lou Thesz, assuming they were both in their primes, he would never lay down for him? When Thesz worked with people he thought weren't worthy or whatever, he didn't injure them so much as he humiliated them. Did it to a few people in the Southwest territories according to Terry Funk, who worked with Thesz, as did his brother and father.
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Oct 25, 2018 01:23
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Gavok posted:There was a Chikara match between the Olsen Twins (comedy heels) and Miyawaki and Yago (stiff Japanese dudes who were like twice their size). With the Olsens quietly waiting in the ring before the Japanese team's intro started up, you could hear one guy in the crowd matter-of-factly tell them, "You guys... might die." Is Yago the one who would just mercilessly punch people as hard as he could in the chest because I think I remember seeing him live in the late 2000s and the crowd always did this "oh gently caress" reaction out of pity for the guy he was facing when he would come out
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Related to how long they've been in the WWF, who has had the longest career with fewest turns? If my thinking is right, Undertakier is up there. Debut as a heel, turned with Jake, turned heel against Austin in 98/99 with the Ministry, returned as American bad-rear end, heeled up as Big Evil, then turned babyface with Jeff Hardy. Am I missing anything? While on him, reading his wiki they say he has seven title runs. I can only recall six: 91 vs Hogan, Mania 13 vs Sid, brief run while feuding with Austin, won the undisputed title against Hulk again, beat Batista at Mania 23, then Edge at Mania 24 and took it from Punk at Hell in a Cell. What am I missing?
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